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brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:06 AM Apr 2017

Trumps Far-Right Supporters Turn on Him Over Syria Strike

Source: New York Times

Some of President Trump’s most ardent campaign supporters were among his most vocal opponents on Thursday after he ordered the missile strike against Syria, charging him with breaking his promise to keep the United States out of another conflict in the Middle East.

Prominent writers and bloggers on the far right attacked Mr. Trump. They accused him of turning against his voters by waging an attack that he had for years said would be a terrible idea. They also criticized him for launching the strike without first seeking congressional approval — something he said on Twitter in 2013 would be a “big mistake.”

The most vocal in their outrage were leaders from the small but influential white nationalist movement.

...snip...

Richard Spencer, a far-right activist and white nationalist who coined the term “alt-right,” said he condemned the attack and hinted at supporting another presidential candidate in 2020: Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, a Democrat. Ms. Gabbard met with President Bashar al-Assad of Syria in January and on Thursday criticized the missile strike as shortsighted and reckless.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/us/trump-far-alt-right-syria.html

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Trumps Far-Right Supporters Turn on Him Over Syria Strike (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2017 OP
I'm pretty sure the jackass at the golf resort has not suddenly found Jesus. yallerdawg Apr 2017 #1
Yeah, DFT's getting pounded this morning - I posted an article a bit ago that includes Leghorn21 Apr 2017 #2
Jared and Bannon are at daggers drawn, so to speak, & the WH is a snakepit. Couldn't happen to ... Hekate Apr 2017 #3
this Abu Pepe Apr 2017 #33
Maybe dump can have another "First" LakeArenal Apr 2017 #4
They are total idiots if they trusted him to do anything that didn't benefit him personally. lark Apr 2017 #5
Yes the morning after PatSeg Apr 2017 #7
This is starting to stink to high heavens! lark Apr 2017 #9
For a brainless oaf, PatSeg Apr 2017 #11
It was either Bannon, Putin or Tillerson's idea. lark Apr 2017 #14
I agree PatSeg Apr 2017 #15
Maybe it was Hillary Clinton: janx Apr 2017 #16
No way! Never saw that coming. Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #6
I guess they are starting to figure out PatSeg Apr 2017 #8
If you fall for a snake oil salesman, don't be surprised if you get scammed. Initech Apr 2017 #10
I'm getting so confused Boomer Apr 2017 #12
It wasn't symbolic. janx Apr 2017 #17
yes --- very, very, very hypocritical northoftheborder Apr 2017 #22
I'm right there with you. ffr Apr 2017 #25
I don't think that's right. David__77 Apr 2017 #26
Russian influence? Bradical79 Apr 2017 #28
It's bizarre how the far-right meets the left here. ananda Apr 2017 #13
They don't want him to be comanderly; they want him to be pro-America brooklynite Apr 2017 #18
Interestingly... Orrex Apr 2017 #19
The nazis haz a sad today workinclasszero Apr 2017 #20
Trump broke another BIGLY campaign promise. nt NCjack Apr 2017 #21
Oh we just make friends and influence people everywhere we go!! Thekaspervote Apr 2017 #23
Let's see who's on Real Time tonight. SCVDem Apr 2017 #24
Unfortunately, there are other right wingers who think Trump managed to thwart Russia criticism Hoyt Apr 2017 #27
I won't believe them turning on Donny till there's evidence like his poll numbers falling to the 20s rogue emissary Apr 2017 #29
I wouldn't doubt the whole thing is a ploy by Trump to direct attention ''somewhere else''. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #30
LOL Turbineguy Apr 2017 #31
There's 'far right supporters' and then there are 'far right supporters' LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #32

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
1. I'm pretty sure the jackass at the golf resort has not suddenly found Jesus.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:15 AM
Apr 2017

This is all just a game and manipulation to him, a brand and a pitch on a show with bad, plummeting ratings.

While brown Islamic babies might not be a concern to 'white nationalists,' they supported this idiot because for years he had appeared like-minded. He never supported babies before (except financing their care through multiple wives and exes).

This is a monumental broken promise to his base of supporters. How much more can they tolerate?

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
2. Yeah, DFT's getting pounded this morning - I posted an article a bit ago that includes
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:22 AM
Apr 2017

Nigel, Milo, Coulter and that infowars Paul something Watson guy all distraught at their God Emperor now -

Just popped over to freepville, here's a sample of their deep thoughts:


With all the praise for Trump from the liberals, it makes me question Trump’s judgment.


To: joshua
As it should. Helping ISIS is an Obama gig.



To: markomalley
When the WAPO is on your side, then you made a bad move.

Hekate

(90,824 posts)
3. Jared and Bannon are at daggers drawn, so to speak, & the WH is a snakepit. Couldn't happen to ...
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:23 AM
Apr 2017

...a nicer bunch of people.

Abu Pepe

(637 posts)
33. this
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 05:51 PM
Apr 2017

My biggest takeaway from Trump's bombing was as more evidence of the fall of Bannon's. There is no geopolitica grand strategy. JustJavanka, probably with genuine revultion at the images of the kids, are ascendant and Bannon's power more diminished.

LakeArenal

(28,845 posts)
4. Maybe dump can have another "First"
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:26 AM
Apr 2017

First president to fall below 28% favorability. That would be something....

Below ISIS, Putin, STDS, hemorrhoids, pond scum....

lark

(23,156 posts)
5. They are total idiots if they trusted him to do anything that didn't benefit him personally.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:26 AM
Apr 2017

Everything else is just knee jerk reactions at the time. One just never knows which direction Hair Furor will go, he's so totally all over the place. When this happened, he basically said nothing for 24 hours. Then after seeing the pictures on TV, he got all up in arms, and realized this was a really bad thing, so reacted. What bothers me is I read somewhere else that Syria had moved out most of their planes and personnel ahead of time, so it's like they were forewarned. That bothers me a lot. Who is leaking classified intelligence to Russia so they could alert Assad? With this gang of criminals he's accumulated in DC, there's no telling which person put Russia over US interests. Such treachery!

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
7. Yes the morning after
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:37 AM
Apr 2017

the whole thing looks a lot like Kabuki theater, which is what Malcolm Nance tweeted earlier. The Russians were informed of the attack before our own congress.

lark

(23,156 posts)
9. This is starting to stink to high heavens!
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:47 AM
Apr 2017

Kabuki theater indeed. I'm beginning to wonder if Drumpf didn't do this in part to try to make it look like he's actually independent of Putin, especially with all the Russian stated outrage when they were notified in advance. Guess they think we won't figure that out? I went to NYT and WaPo and neither of them had information (at least at the time) about Russia and therefore Syria being notified in advance. This is obviously non-serious or we wouldn't have given Syria backdoor notice.

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
11. For a brainless oaf,
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 12:10 PM
Apr 2017

this was all pretty slick, though I seriously doubt it was his idea. I can picture Putin chuckling (if Putin ever chuckles) and meanwhile, the media isn't paying attention to the Trump-Russian connection. This was all a very expensive "wag the dog" display and now Trump can pretend he is a real Commander-in-Chief.

lark

(23,156 posts)
14. It was either Bannon, Putin or Tillerson's idea.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 12:16 PM
Apr 2017

They are all craven and slippery enough to plan this out. Hair Furor isn't anywhere near smart enough for this tour de force. So far the major media is so falling for the ploy. So a missile explodes, so what? Any damage? Of course, that's not being reported. It's all, hey, look over there, Drumpf stood up to Russia.

Hell the fuck no he didn't! This is yet another collusion with Russia. This time the goal to create an appearance of conflict, when really they are 100% complicit.

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
15. I agree
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 12:25 PM
Apr 2017

Trump is all bluster and hot air. This was far too clever for him. Meanwhile, the media fell for it and kept playing video clips of the missiles going off. Brought back bad memories of Bush's "Shock and Awe" campaign. The media loves things that blow up. They are so mesmerized by the display, they forget to ask questions.

It all has a very Putinesque feel to it. Perhaps Jared had a hand in it as well.

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
8. I guess they are starting to figure out
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 11:38 AM
Apr 2017

that Trump isn't going to do much of anything that he said. It was all campaign rhetoric. Anyone who trusted Trump is a total fool.

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
12. I'm getting so confused
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 12:11 PM
Apr 2017

The Alt-Right think Obama was weak because he didn't strike against Syria, but Trump is wrong because he did strike and risks getting us into a new war.

Obama was a tyrant for overstepping the bounds of the executive office, but he played by the rules in asking Congress for permission to bomb and they said no. Trump bombs away and it's not a problem for Congress.

Syrian women and children are too dangerous to let into this country as refugees, but once they're gassed to death we care enough to bomb the shit out of their country.

To insure a "measured response", we warn Russia who then warns Syria, so the airstrike is largely symbolic and serves what purpose?

ffr

(22,671 posts)
25. I'm right there with you.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 02:00 PM
Apr 2017

This is why I prefer we always elect Democrats for everything. Because when people like these alt-right weirdos have their way, it's just one disaster after another. They're like hyper little children who don't know any better. And if they're unhappy, so what! They're always unhappy.

David__77

(23,511 posts)
26. I don't think that's right.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 02:08 PM
Apr 2017

Actually, I think that many that might consider themselves part of "alt-right" might have considered Obama's non-military intervention against the Syrian government to be a sort of rare bright spot. I think a widely-held view is that Obama held out against a crowd of neo-conservatives and "war hawk" Democrats like John Kerry and Hillary Clinton.

Personally, I think that Trump has exposed himself as an agent to the war hawks with this move. He has aided the forces of international terrorism by striking an army that's the most powerful force on the ground combating Islamist extremism.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
28. Russian influence?
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 02:27 PM
Apr 2017

Russia has been giving funding and support to far right nationalists for awhile now.

ananda

(28,876 posts)
13. It's bizarre how the far-right meets the left here.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 12:15 PM
Apr 2017

Strange days we're having now.

I can't even wrap my head around this.

I would have thought 45's supporters would be going
into orgasms over his commanderly action.

Clearly, what do I know?

brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
18. They don't want him to be comanderly; they want him to be pro-America
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 12:36 PM
Apr 2017

Why should they care what happens in the Middle East?

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
19. Interestingly...
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 12:38 PM
Apr 2017

This might do more to drive Herr Trump out of office than anything that Democrats might put together. If these Far-Right lunatics extend their anger to the GOP at large, you can bet that we'll see a push by those cowardly shills to distance themselves from Trump, not least by removing him from office.


Hmm...

Thekaspervote

(32,794 posts)
23. Oh we just make friends and influence people everywhere we go!!
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 01:29 PM
Apr 2017

Soon we're going to have to put an extension on the now very long rope to lower his Big Macs in on a silver tray.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
27. Unfortunately, there are other right wingers who think Trump managed to thwart Russia criticism
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 02:22 PM
Apr 2017

for awhile. He's a slippery SOB, and I hate to see bombs thwarting criticism at home.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
30. I wouldn't doubt the whole thing is a ploy by Trump to direct attention ''somewhere else''.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 02:31 PM
Apr 2017

You know, a show of "strength'', although it was unlawful since Congress didn't have a say in it. How many more young lives will be wasted away because of the U.S. thumping their chest?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
32. There's 'far right supporters' and then there are 'far right supporters'
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 05:32 PM
Apr 2017

Sure some who consider themselves 'thinking man' traditional conservatives don't like interventionism, but many more Republicans are mesmerized by shiny objects like the glint of sun reflected off of an F-16 with a full load. USA USA USA

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