Jerry Sandusky voicemails to "Victim 2" released by lawyers who plan to sue Penn State

[maddezmom]

Source: CBS/AP

CBS/AP) A man who claims he was "Victim 2" - the boy assaulted in a Penn State shower by Jerry Sandusky - intends to sue the university for its "egregious and reckless conduct," his lawyers said Thursday.

The lawyers said in a statement they have gathered "overwhelming evidence" of the abuse, and they released recordings of two voicemails they say were from Sandusky last year, both saying "love you" to the victim.

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The statement from the attorneys said Victim 2 suffered "extensive sexual abuse over many years both before and after the 2001 incident."


In the recording of a pair of voicemails released with the statement and posted online by the lawyers, a voice that purportedly is Sandusky's expresses his love and says he wants to express his feelings "up front."


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[LynneSin]

1. I can't imagine which is worse...

Being sexually assaulted by someone who you thought you could trust or knowing someone knew what was happening and they choose to ignore it.

[freshwest]

5. Both lead to the person feeling like a freak, since neither group acknowledged their humanity.

[valerief]

6. Definitely the first, although the second comes in a close second. nt

[rhett o rick]

7. I rank them equal. That's why I want them to charge Sandusky's wife with something. nm

[Heddi]

12. I was molested by my mom's boyfriend. I told her, and she still let him live with us

for many years. And the abuse continued. It continued with me, and with other children in the neighborhood. She didn't care. She was blinded by...something? I don't know what, he was uneduacated, chronically incarcerated, unemployed sex offender....

I have to say that being sexually assaulted was horrible, but the betrayal by someone who was supposed to care for you and defend you was far worse.

It's been 20 years, and I've gotten over the abuse. I've not, nor do I think I'll ever, get over the absolute betrayal of trust by my mother, and her "oh well, you didn't turn out to be a prosititute, a junkie, or a dropout, and the fact that you're happy, well-adjusted, financially stable means that everything is okay in the end" attitude really cinches it for me.

[blaze]

13. I can't even imagine that Heddi!

I've been so blessed with two parents who always loved me and protected me... Dad is gone (rip) and Mom (86) the person who always supports me and wishes for the best for me. I can't even begin to imagine how I would feel if that trust was betrayed.

[Heddi]

18. Well I just like to remind mysellf

that I'm the one that gets to choose the nursing home

[yardwork]

14. I'm so sorry that happened to you, Heddi.

[Heddi]

19. Thanks. Me too :)

But I'm an only child, and as my mother ages and has poor health, she comes to me for care and support and I am as cold as ice. No to $$ and no to pretty much any emotional anything that she wants. And (like I just posted above), I get utter glee in knowing that I'm ultimately the one that gets to choose the nursing home when that time comes. And being an RN, I'm *very* knowledgeable in the nursing homes that are good, and the ones that are...where bad parents go

[calimary]

21. Oh Dear God, I'm so sorry, Heddi!

That's got to be the worst set of feelings imaginable. I'm so sorry.

It's so awful when trust is gone. And I can see how it would still hurt long after the marks of the abuse may have faded. Damn. That you're still sane and circumspect says a lot about you. Damn. CRIMINAL, BOTH WAYS, what happened to you.

And yeah. Sure. "Everything is okay in the end."

[lunatica]

20. Six of one and half a dozen of the other

If someone jumps in to help or defend you, or even believes you and tries to do something about it then it makes you feel protected. If you're left out in the cold with no support after being raped it would be horrible, leaving you feeling as alone as a person can be.

[cosmicone]

2. I always thought stoning someone to death

was inhuman and then along came Sandusky .....

[irisblue]

4. stoning huh?

well, gonna be an interesring after dinner discussion while walking the dogs.

[frylock]

3. but suing the university would just be punishing all the students who had nothing to do with this..

or some other bullshit nonsense.

[LynneSin]

8. I think suing is the right thing to do - Penn State has gotten rich off their football program

What I think is wrong is totally shutting down the program altogether. They have removed the coaches & personal that have caused this travesty and they have punished the program by removing the wins along with banning them from bowl games. But I think the program has a right to exist as long as it's a new coaches rebuilding it and learning from the mistakes of the last one.

I've read alot about Bill O'Brien, who is the new coach at Penn State. He wants to stick around to rebuild even though he won't be able to go to a bowl game for 5 years. One thing about PSU is that they graduate players who actually get an education, so I draw the line at shutting down the football program.

[frylock]

9. oh, i agree and should have included a sarcasm emoticon

[waddirum]

16. they need to demolish that damn coaches locker room

nt

[bonniebgood]

10. The whole place should be burned down, erased

from history and memory.

[rocktivity]

11. The voice mails were sent WHEN???

Sept. 12, 2011 voicemail:
"...Jere. Um. I am probably not going to be able to get a hold of anybody. Um. Uh. Probably ought to just go forward. Uh. I would be very firm and express my feelings, uh, upfront. Um. But, uh, you know, there is nothing really to hide so. Um. If you want, give me a call. You can call me on my other cell phone or on this one, either one so. Alright, take care. Love you. Uh. Hope you get this message. Thanks."

Sept. 19, 2011 voicemail:
"...Just calling to see you know whether you had any interest in going to the Penn State game this Saturday. Uh. If you could get back to me and let me know, uh, I would appreciate it and when you get this message, uh, give me a call and I hope to talk to you later. Thanks. I love you."

Sandusky sent these to the person who McQueary saw raping over TEN years earlier? Does he think he's STILL dealing with a clueless child who can be bought off with a trip to the game? And he thinks nothing of using a pedophile's language? Well, then, that means that Sandusky has legitimate grounds on which to appeal his convictions -- insanity!!!

rocktivity

[yardwork]

15. I've heard that pedophiles don't believe that they are wrong, and this seems to suggest that.

These messages suggest to me that Jerry Sandusky knew that he was in trouble, but not that what he did was wrong.

[marble falls]

17. Why haven't any Penn State officials been charged?