ACLU: Trump refused to turn over Giuliani travel ban memo by court-ordered deadline

[Julian Englis]

Source: The Hill

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Saturday blasted President Trump for ignoring a court order demand to release a memo drafted under former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's guidance that outlined a plan to implement a travel ban without making it seem as if it was directly aimed at Muslims.

A federal judge in Detroit ordered the Trump administration to turn over the memo by May 19, according to reports. The ACLU said Saturday that Trump did not meet the deadline on Friday.

“If, as the administration claims, the Executive Order is not a Muslim Ban, then why is the administration refusing to turn over the Giuliani memo? What is in that document that the government doesn’t want the court to see?” Miriam Aukerman, Senior Staff Attorney at the ACLU of Michigan, said in a statement.

The ACLU along with Arab American Civil Rights League (ACRL) challenged the president's travel ban on nationals from several Muslim-majority countries in federal court earlier this year.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/334414-aclu-trump-refused-to-turn-over-giuliani-travel-ban-memo-by

[liberal N proud]

1. He has always decided what laws to obey and which ones to ignore

[sandensea]

4. When the president does it, it's legal!

Remind me: where have we heard that before?

[DK504]

13. And yet one more crime to go on the list.

And some minority leaders are refusing to call for impeachment charges to be brought forward. He keeps handing every single lawyer in the land a reason to sue for impeachment and half the Congress is refusing to even think about it.

[sandensea]

14. If that doesn't beat all!

Democrats carrying water for Eddie Munster and Bitchy Mitchy - knowing full well that they are committed to derailing any investigation into Trump's treason.

Reminds me of what Will Rogers used to say about our party sometimes.

[manicraven]

2. Once again, tRump thinks he's above laws, rules, regulations, decorum, etc., etc.

[DavidDvorkin]

3. If he's not punished or forced to turn over the memo

Then he is indeed above the law.

[dhill926]

10. exactly....

[orangecrush]

5. O.K.

So what is the next step?

[Stonepounder]

7. Seems to me (and IANAL)

the simple response is for the court to say that since the Administration refuses to obey a court order, then the Summarily grant judgement to the plaintiff and grant a permanent stay or the EO.

[orangecrush]

9. Sounds great!

My ACLU membership at work!

[SergeStorms]

18. Same here.

I joined the minute I found out, for sure, that he'd "won" the presidential election. I knew the ACLU would be tested with that nit-wit in Washington. I'm a card carrying member now. It's time to send them another contribution.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

6. K&R nt

[keithbvadu2]

8. DT certainly would not want that released as he visits an Arab country.

[Marthe48]

11. Is this how it goes?

flynn, a career military officer, who seems to have missed the memo on defending the Constitution of the U.S., refuses to obey a subpoena for private documents, trump, who has missed every memo ever, ignores a court order? What laws do they break next? And get away with? If trump et all can get away with it, how about we remove all the traffic signals and erase all the laws on the books? We can all ignore the rule of law. Then, we can all go riot in the streets, and the U.S. can go up in flames. Well done, you repuke traitors.

[triron]

12. Contempt!

[onetexan]

19. exactly

question is what is the court going to do next given he's not complied with the order?

[sakabatou]

15. Hit him with contempt of court!

[safeinOhio]

16. 30 days in the big house

and a fine.
No one is above the law.

[SergeStorms]

17. Whay can't liberals understand?

Donald Trump doesn't HAVE TO obey the laws that mere LITTLE PEOPLE obey! He's the Preznit, and before that he was just "The Donald". Even the laws of mathematics and science don't apply to him. How else could you explain the fact that he stuffs 300 lbs. of shit into that sorry sack of skin he calls a body?

Gosh people.......you'd think we'd know and understand this by now. Time to send the ACLU another $50.

[Liberty Belle]

20. Court should ask Giuliani for the memo. They can jail him for contempt if he won't provide it,

and he surely has a copy of what he sent to Trump

Trump is thumbing his nose at the judge, and pushing the limits of presidential immunity. I'd love to see the judge find grounds to jail Trump for contempt, too.

[thesquanderer]

24. re: "surely has a copy of what he sent to Trump"

He can claim otherwise, and it would be hard to disprove.

[Duppers]

25. Unless it was handwritten

Or his computers were swiped totally clean (or destroyed), the court could could get a warrant for Giuliani's computers.



Throw them in jail.

[DeminPennswoods]

21. Nixon wouldn't hand over the tapes, either

IIRC, the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 against him when his legal team appealed to them. It's possible the federal court will consider that 5/19 was the day Trump and co left for Eur/ME and give them a new deadline, but ultimately, they will have to comply or face contempt charges.

[Princess Turandot]

22. Under federal rules, Trump can object to providing the requested document in round #1...

This happens frequently. It's allowed.

The ACLU will respond by filing a motion with the court this week requesting that Trump be compelled to fork it over. The judge will review the defendants' objections and the plaintiffs' reply and make her decision. I'd be surprised if she doesn't compel them to provide the document at that point.

[Honeycombe8]

23. Then he should be cited by the Court for contempt and hit with a penalty, and the news reported. nt

[riversedge]

26. Good start. I assume the ACLU will sue again.