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PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:34 AM May 2017

Report: Girl in Weiner sexting case lied to damage Clinton

Source: The Hill

The teenage girl who had exchanged inappropriate text messages with former Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) lied about her age and political motivations to harm Hillary Clinton, according to a report by WhoWhatWhy.

The girl was not under the age of 15, as the initial reports said, but nearly 17 when she first reached out to Weiner, the report said. She and her family were also not Clinton supporters, as the girl claimed in a letter published by BuzzFeed, according to social media posts unearthed by the website.

“Seeing that Weiner is both a repeat offender — his sexting addiction cost him his job in Congress as well as a shot at becoming mayor of New York — and associated with one of the most important people in Clinton’s inner circle, it is conceivable that this was a set-up from the beginning, with the objective of embarrassing the Clinton campaign,” the report reads.

The report also added that Chuck Johnson, a conservative writer, was one of the individuals who connected the girl to The Daily Mail.

“It’s not yet clear whether the motive was primarily money, a plot to smear Clinton, or both,” the report notes.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/news/334511-report-girl-in-weiner-sexting-case-lied-to-damage-clinton?rnd=1495456865



If true, this doesn't absolve Weiner for what he did, just shows how dirty the other side played to destroy HRC.
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Report: Girl in Weiner sexting case lied to damage Clinton (Original Post) PunkinPi May 2017 OP
russian republicans having a pisser of a time laffing about this Achilleaze May 2017 #1
"Almost 17" geek tragedy May 2017 #2
Yes, though not really the point here -nt Bradical79 May 2017 #9
legally she's a minor, nt geek tragedy May 2017 #16
Yes, we know Bradical79 May 2017 #17
it really, really doesn't matter what the motives of legal minor are when it comes geek tragedy May 2017 #18
Right Bradical79 May 2017 #19
a 16 year old girl wanting to take a politician down geek tragedy May 2017 #20
Wouldn't you want to know if she had contact with, say, Jason Chaffetz? Or Paul Ryan? (eom) StevieM May 2017 #21
when people produce evidence that such a thing might have happened geek tragedy May 2017 #23
The May 22 Russ Baker article is very thorough and apparently not the first: ucrdem May 2017 #28
whowhatwhy is pretty much infowars left. geek tragedy May 2017 #29
LOL, not hardly. Daniel Ellsberg, Robert McChesney, and David Talbot are on the editorial board ucrdem May 2017 #30
Family of Secrets was insane trash. Baker is a nutter geek tragedy May 2017 #33
I don't suppose you've read these, or the article in question? ucrdem May 2017 #34
don't read infowars either. Nixon was a crook, not a victim, in Watergate. nt geek tragedy May 2017 #35
Sometimes events are complex. ucrdem May 2017 #36
Agreed!! LovingA2andMI May 2017 #31
It is if she was working with an adult to do it beforehand though. cstanleytech May 2017 #39
That's been my strong suspicion since it became part of the email saga. ucrdem May 2017 #3
And Weiner is too stupid to realize it and too weak to control himself IronLionZion May 2017 #4
Not surprising karynnj May 2017 #5
This is sarcasm right? eom moda253 May 2017 #15
You are BLAMING Hillary/Abedin for RIGHT WING LIES? Hortensis May 2017 #37
I am saying what I said when Weiner got caught the SECOND time while running for Mayor karynnj May 2017 #38
You're missing that Weiner was a SET-UP for a purpose. Hortensis May 2017 #45
You are absolutely correct. Tatiana May 2017 #44
i bet he was one who was screaming "family values" AllaN01Bear May 2017 #6
Warning. Wait for confirmation american_ideals May 2017 #7
LOL. ucrdem May 2017 #8
No, she had ties to an important Democrat, who was her stepfather which is how she became an intern karynnj May 2017 #10
Explain Bradical79 May 2017 #11
Possible felony if true? Bradical79 May 2017 #12
There was a concentrated effort to take down Clinton. Initech May 2017 #13
"Nearly 17" - so she was 16 and he pled guilty. tammywammy May 2017 #14
Maybe that's true Mz Pip May 2017 #22
The question is if anyone else was involved Bradical79 May 2017 #24
Weiner was an easy target - his own doing. Birds of the feather... vkkv May 2017 #25
I'm amazed a 16 year old is THAT politically aware. OnDoutside May 2017 #26
She was coached by somebody on what to do FakeNoose May 2017 #41
Age of consent in NC is 16. Insane that he wld plead guilty if she was of age. yodermon May 2017 #27
Age of consent doesn't matter tammywammy May 2017 #32
If he hadn't been a dick pic texting pervert there wound not have been something to exploit. alphafemale May 2017 #40
... orangecrush May 2017 #42
Writer Alana Goodman & Cassandra Rules/ Fairbanks partied at Trumps inauguration Madam45for2923 May 2017 #43
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
17. Yes, we know
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:09 PM
May 2017

The story is about a set up. Weiner's guilt isn't the point of the article. Nationally, 16/nearly 17 plays differently then 15. The point of the article is whether it was a partisan set up.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. it really, really doesn't matter what the motives of legal minor are when it comes
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:13 PM
May 2017

to the behavior of the adult

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. when people produce evidence that such a thing might have happened
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:34 PM
May 2017

rather than adding multiple layers of speculation (note this story is pretty much pure speculation) then yes that's worth pursuing.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
30. LOL, not hardly. Daniel Ellsberg, Robert McChesney, and David Talbot are on the editorial board
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:35 PM
May 2017

among others. Scroll down:

https://whowhatwhy.org/the-project/

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
33. Family of Secrets was insane trash. Baker is a nutter
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:50 PM
May 2017

whowhatwhy.org/2016/05/02/reasons-doubt-official-osama-raid-story-five-years-later/

Baker claims that Nixon was the victim of a conspiracy in Watergate.

That's ninja-level craziness.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
31. Agreed!!
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:36 PM
May 2017

Weiner should have KNOWN FULL WELL better. Would NOT have been a set-up otherwise. Now, off to jail for Weiner.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
39. It is if she was working with an adult to do it beforehand though.
Mon May 22, 2017, 05:11 PM
May 2017

Hopefully there will be an investigation to determine if someone else was involved.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
4. And Weiner is too stupid to realize it and too weak to control himself
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:44 AM
May 2017

Huma should have tossed him out years ago.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
5. Not surprising
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:54 AM
May 2017

Clinton's loyalty to Huma Abedin put the campaign at risk. Weiner had already proved that he could easily become a problem for the campaign. No matter how close the personal bond, Abedin should herself have seen the risk and left the State Department and not been part of the Clinton campaign if she could not completely separate from Weiner. No one is irreplaceable.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. You are BLAMING Hillary/Abedin for RIGHT WING LIES?
Mon May 22, 2017, 03:45 PM
May 2017

You know, Karynnj, if you were the Hill campaign, it would be really hard to guess where right-wing attacks would be aimed. The right wing can and does twist kittens at play and apple pie into weapons as needed. Plus, for certain, if Abedin had sacrificed her career the attack would have just twisted something else.

Did you know, for instance, that just one of the anti-Clinton groups boasted of having five phony "gates" all lined up to roll when she won? Not real, created.

Imo, your post suggests that you might want to expand your reading to look at the big picture. It's not like this attack was new, not in timing, method, or purpose. Hillary and Obama were the most recent main targets; but with them (apparently) not in the front rank in future, others will be targeted instead. For most big money backers, it was never about those two, but about YOU--you as a representative of a nation of sponges trying to tax them to take care of you when you will not.

(THEIR warped viewpoint, of course, definitely not mine. I also pay in and expect an appropriate payout for my investment.)

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
38. I am saying what I said when Weiner got caught the SECOND time while running for Mayor
Mon May 22, 2017, 04:37 PM
May 2017

Are you seriously saying that you never worried that Weiner's inexplicable actions could have negative consequences for his wife and for Hillary? What I wrote back then was that Huma should completely remove herself from the campaign or left Weiner. Note Hillary could then have put her in her administration after being elected, so that would not be sacrificing her career.

My reading and knowledge of the history of right wing attacks is likely easily as strong as yours. There were many absolutely made up lies - filming a filthy harbor in Texas and putting it in an ad that used the Standell's song "Dirty water" (Boston you're my home&quot , the SBVT spewing lies - all contrary to the Navy record, the birther stuff ... or in Clinton's case the terrible allegations about the depressed Vince Foster or the mythology that sprang out of Benghazi.

Note that in every one of these examples, the candidate had done absolutely nothing. Dukakis had actually worked to clean Boston Harbor. Kerry actually had a sterling military record with prestigious medals and nothing negative. Obama was born at a hospital in Honolulu and his birth announced by the hospital in the newspaper. The attacks were simply made up. The same with the two Clinton examples.

With Huma, I credited her loyalty, but the price was hefty. It would have been prudent for Huma to have left her positions with Clinton. Once everything with her husband was over and Clinton was President, nothing would stop her from appointing her again.

And... no matter the motivation, no matter how logical that she be secretive ... the email story, though overblown was her fault in that it did not need to happen - and likely would not have happened if she had archived the email and left it with the State Department rather than returning it about two years later after the SD "negotiated with her". Not to mention, the agreement that Clinton signed with Obama to keep the Foundation completely far away from the SD would have PROTECTED her had she followed it to the letter. It also would have protected the name of the Clinton Foundation, which does excellent work. Note NEITHER of these rose to being criminal, BUT, they were politically damaging.

I KNOW it is hard to hear any criticism of Clinton or her campaign. I think that her campaign was not as good as she deserved and it might have been that no one felt comfortable telling her what they thought.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
45. You're missing that Weiner was a SET-UP for a purpose.
Tue May 23, 2017, 02:23 AM
May 2017

This actually has absolutely nothing to do with him. If Abedin divorced Weiner, something else would have been used. Comey would have acted to subvert the election using another excuse, very likely provided to him by the very same people who set up Weiner for this purpose.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
44. You are absolutely correct.
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:17 PM
May 2017

And if Abedin didn't resign, Clinton should have been smart and asked for her resignation during the campaign.

AllaN01Bear

(18,223 posts)
6. i bet he was one who was screaming "family values"
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:55 AM
May 2017

what family values? only for them and yet another smoke screen to hide and deflect us from their issues.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
10. No, she had ties to an important Democrat, who was her stepfather which is how she became an intern
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:34 AM
May 2017

Both Weiner and Bill Clinton should have known better -- and, in both cases, the country paid a steep price for their lack of self control.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
12. Possible felony if true?
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:47 AM
May 2017

If anyone put her up to it, or aided in her actions while this happened, I'm pretty sure that would be a felony since she's only 16.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
13. There was a concentrated effort to take down Clinton.
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:31 AM
May 2017

Hillary should be the president right now, not the orange gas bag. What do they know that they're not telling us?

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
14. "Nearly 17" - so she was 16 and he pled guilty.
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:33 AM
May 2017

Even if she did try and set him up for whatever reason he still sent skeet disgusting texts to her! He pled guilty.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
24. The question is if anyone else was involved
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:39 PM
May 2017

If her parents put her up to it, or someone else. If it was all her own initiative without telling any adults befire it was over, the yes, it's open and shut. Otherwise more comitted crimes here beyond Weiner.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
41. She was coached by somebody on what to do
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:17 PM
May 2017

You're right in that most 16 year-old girls are rather clueless, so somebody coached her.
It might have been a parent, but more likely somebody who's not related.

It proves what a dumb-ass Weiner is.

Just saying'


yodermon

(6,143 posts)
27. Age of consent in NC is 16. Insane that he wld plead guilty if she was of age.
Mon May 22, 2017, 01:49 PM
May 2017

Something is wrong here. Legal document filed says she was under 16. Article is wrong or someone has purjured themselves.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
32. Age of consent doesn't matter
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:48 PM
May 2017

He solicited photos of a minor and sent lewd photos of himself. Consent is in regards to sexual contact. Regardless he thought she was 15. Her being 16 doesn't matter. Just like it doesn't matter hat at a 30 year old pretending to be a 16 year old in chat messages a la Chris Hanson's to catch a predator.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
40. If he hadn't been a dick pic texting pervert there wound not have been something to exploit.
Mon May 22, 2017, 06:14 PM
May 2017

Would there?

You know....

Like those perverts that were talking with 20+ cops online and walked in expecting to find a teen.

And instead find Chris Hanson.

Your evening insn't going to go as planned and neither is the rest of your life.

I can't believe people are attacking a minor here rather than a serial pervert.

I hope Anthony Weiner has NO contact with his son whether he goes to prison or not as long as that child is underage.

If the child chooses to make contact as an adult that will be his choice.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
43. Writer Alana Goodman & Cassandra Rules/ Fairbanks partied at Trumps inauguration
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:59 PM
May 2017

This whole thing needs more investigating.


Here together:

Cassandra Fairbanks on Twitter: "#WomenWhoVoteTrump are badass. MAGA! " with Alana Goodman http://archive.is/QaOZL


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