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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 09:37 AM Jun 2017

Justice Department defends Trump financial disclosure

Source: Politico



By JOSH GERSTEIN 06/03/2017 07:37 AM EDT

The Justice Department is defending President Donald Trump's personal financial disclosure by arguing that the rules for such forms are so ambiguous that a lawsuit challenging the disclosure must be thrown out.

The unusual argument came in response to a suit filed in March arguing that the financial disclosure Trump filed as a candidate last year was incomplete because it failed to indicate which of hundreds of millions of dollars-worth of outstanding loans Trump is actually personally liable for. Instead, Trump's form appears to blend his personal debts with those of businesses he has interests in, effectively obscuring which creditors may have the greatest leverage over him.

All Trump's debts are covered on a single page of his 104-page disclosure. According to the report, the listed loans exceed $300 million in total. The total amount of the loans is known to be much larger based on other data, but the disclosure form does not require details above $50 million for each loan that exceeds that amount.

In a filing this week in federal court in Washington, Justice Department lawyers argue that Trump had no legal duty to be more specific about which debts are his and which are his companies'.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2017/06/03/trump-financial-disclosure-justice-department-defends-239091

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Justice Department defends Trump financial disclosure (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2017 OP
The Justice Department has sworn an oath of loyalty bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #1
A very good question. gademocrat7 Jun 2017 #2
I think it might be because they typically defend a sitting president cstanleytech Jun 2017 #5
My First Thought Too! bitterross Jun 2017 #8
They aren't they are acting as the attorneys representing the head of cstanleytech Jun 2017 #10
Trump filed this financial disclosure while a candidate and a private citizen bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #11
Thats immaterial as he is the current head of the country thus the DoJ will tend to cstanleytech Jun 2017 #13
So he really is like a Shakespearean King, then. Crash2Parties Jun 2017 #15
No, a king is on office for life Trump will hopefully be out of office cstanleytech Jun 2017 #16
Maybe you missed that GOP plan to rework the Constitution? Crash2Parties Jun 2017 #17
I'm sure some would love to try do something like that but the odds of them succeeding are slimmer cstanleytech Jun 2017 #18
I guess when I file my taxes I can be really vague and see how far that gets me................... turbinetree Jun 2017 #3
I see this and think aiding and abetting. Jeff Sessions I'm talking to you. DK504 Jun 2017 #4
Right! Pretty much the inverse of Sally Yates. bitterross Jun 2017 #9
"Trump had no legal duty to be more specific about which debts are his..." BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #6
Pretty good having the taxpayer pay to defend his tax returns or lack of... Historic NY Jun 2017 #7
I wish the headline writer had specified "Trump's Justice Department..." deurbano Jun 2017 #12
Right. Exactly who signed off on Trump's financial disclosures?? mpcamb Jun 2017 #14

bucolic_frolic

(43,206 posts)
1. The Justice Department has sworn an oath of loyalty
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 09:43 AM
Jun 2017

Why are they defending this rather than his personal lawyer?

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
8. My First Thought Too!
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 12:09 PM
Jun 2017

Why the fuck are they acting as his personal attorney? It should, at the least, be White House Counsel - not the Justice Department.

Of course the answer IS obvious - Jeff Sessions.

cstanleytech

(26,300 posts)
10. They aren't they are acting as the attorneys representing the head of
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jun 2017

the government which legally Trump is.

bucolic_frolic

(43,206 posts)
11. Trump filed this financial disclosure while a candidate and a private citizen
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 01:34 PM
Jun 2017

Taxpayers are paying JD employees to defend his actions as a private citizen

and against the notion of disclosing tax returns which most citizens support

I'm no lawyer, but we are defending a private citizen's actions here.

cstanleytech

(26,300 posts)
13. Thats immaterial as he is the current head of the country thus the DoJ will tend to
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 02:39 PM
Jun 2017

represent him in almost all matters.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
15. So he really is like a Shakespearean King, then.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 04:04 AM
Jun 2017

I thought that was just his own narcissistic interpretation, equating himself with 'America'.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
17. Maybe you missed that GOP plan to rework the Constitution?
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 12:44 AM
Jun 2017

And no, I'm not kidding. They're talking about holding The Convention. If they do, pretty much anything could happen. Especially if they game the next two elections the way they did 2016 and gain enough to ratify.

cstanleytech

(26,300 posts)
18. I'm sure some would love to try do something like that but the odds of them succeeding are slimmer
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 12:48 AM
Jun 2017

than Donald waking up in the whitehouse tomorrow as a decent human being.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
3. I guess when I file my taxes I can be really vague and see how far that gets me...................
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 09:59 AM
Jun 2017
..............................why not.

And besides this "money" that he wants to blend could come from the mafia here in this country and Russia, whats a little dirty illegally gotten money among friends ................
 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
9. Right! Pretty much the inverse of Sally Yates.
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 12:11 PM
Jun 2017

Yates was an AG with morals and ethics. We all knew Sessions had none and now he's proving it.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
6. "Trump had no legal duty to be more specific about which debts are his..."
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 11:04 AM
Jun 2017

For the Treasury Department (IRS) he does.

We need tax returns!

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
7. Pretty good having the taxpayer pay to defend his tax returns or lack of...
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 11:56 AM
Jun 2017

before he was even elected. Up is down, down is up, were all on the merry-go-round.

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