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still_one

(92,393 posts)
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:06 PM Jun 2017

Trump: I would speak under oath on Comey

Source: BBC

US President Donald Trump says he is "100%" willing to speak under oath about his conversations with ex-FBI chief James Comey.
Speaking at the White House, he denied having asked for Mr Comey's loyalty or for an inquiry into his former national security adviser to be dropped.
"James Comey confirmed a lot of what I said, and some of the things he said just weren't true," Mr Trump said.
Mr Comey says Mr Trump fired him because of the Russia inquiry.
The former FBI chief was investigating whether the president or his campaign officials colluded with an alleged Kremlin plot to sway last year's US presidential election in favour of Mr Trump.
On Thursday, Mr Comey testified to one of several congressional committees that is also looking into the Russia claims.
He said the president had pressured him to drop a probe into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, whom Mr Trump fired for misleading the White House over M Flynn's contacts with Moscow's ambassador.
Under oath, the former FBI director also told the Senate Intelligence Committee that the president had asked him during a one-one dinner at the White House to pledge loyalty.
At a press conference on Friday afternoon in the Rose Garden with the visiting president of Romania, Mr Trump rejected Mr Comey claims.
He said the former FBI director's testimony showed there was "no collusion, no obstruction".
The US president was asked by a journalist if he would be willing to give his version of events under oath.

One hundred per cent," Mr Trump said.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40229449



Geez.

So all they need to do is ask trump, did you record the conversation?

If he says no, they he is caught in a LIE

If he says yes, then they ask him to play the tapes


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Trump: I would speak under oath on Comey (Original Post) still_one Jun 2017 OP
Bring it. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #1
It is unbelievable. I have to believe his lawyers would not be too happy about this still_one Jun 2017 #4
Well I heard it said here...that he never listens to the voices of his lawyers. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #39
This is what he will be presenting to them.. SummerSnow Jun 2017 #2
Republican Pres Trump said about tapes: "I'll tell you about it over a very short period of time" Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #3
If he has recordings bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #43
Lololololololololololololololol! Are_grits_groceries Jun 2017 #5
And once and for all BillyBobBrilliant Jun 2017 #6
..................................................................................... still_one Jun 2017 #10
I was just thinking about this - Mme. Defarge Jun 2017 #51
HAHAHAHA!!! Rollo Jun 2017 #11
President Queeg! Auggie Jun 2017 #32
He's still bluffing Saviolo Jun 2017 #7
Yeah. Trump skill is not deal-making with powerful counterparts. It's duping gullible victims - Frum Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #19
I think you are right Saviolo, it won't happen. The problem he has is some of these events occurred still_one Jun 2017 #38
This metalbot Jun 2017 #68
Is he flat out lying, has he convinced himself that what happened didn't happen, or.... LisaM Jun 2017 #8
Oh, GOODIE! Rollo Jun 2017 #9
You have that right still_one Jun 2017 #13
Clinton did have to Juliusseizure Jun 2017 #54
Nope, he didn't have to give a sworn deposition. Period. He could have refused, the worst that would Rollo Jun 2017 #59
Depositions are court orders Juliusseizure Jun 2017 #78
Butternut's oath isn't worth his breath. liberal N proud Jun 2017 #12
Lying is his native tongue CentralMass Jun 2017 #53
You are exactly right! joshdawg Jun 2017 #67
Game ON! Mr, Mueller...45 is calling. nt jrthin Jun 2017 #14
Trump promises a lot of things NewJeffCT Jun 2017 #15
Trump: "my dog ate the tapes" still_one Jun 2017 #16
Now I KNOW there's no tape. Ligyron Jun 2017 #17
Just like we know tRump does not file tax returns? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #21
I believe any tape would show Trump is lying about their conversation. Ligyron Jun 2017 #23
Agreed. I'm sure Comey told us the conversation straight on. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #40
Throughout his life, Donald J. Trump has come to expect, and demand, star treatment... Rollo Jun 2017 #18
"Speak under oath" is not the same as giving testimony that can be examined and cross examined. Floyd R. Turbo Jun 2017 #20
good point NewJeffCT Jun 2017 #24
I believe he can be goaded marylandblue Jun 2017 #30
As I recall they were not under oath and as you stated the session was not recorded. Floyd R. Turbo Jun 2017 #33
Good point. "Speak under oath" is not the same as "Answer questions under oath." Iggo Jun 2017 #48
Get him under oath and he will automatically commit perjury! world wide wally Jun 2017 #22
He's a sociopath relayerbob Jun 2017 #25
Under Oath healthnut7 Jun 2017 #26
No, it is a simple and honest mispoken sound byte... Kleveland Jun 2017 #27
One perjury charge coming UP !!!! benld74 Jun 2017 #28
Please Sweet Baby Jeezits, Make it Happen. NFT. TheOther95Percent Jun 2017 #29
Nope, dont think he ever said there were tapes, only if. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #31
He only implied there were tapes by tweeting, "James Comey better hope that there are no tapes of still_one Jun 2017 #44
Yep, all true and none of it matters if GOP decides what action if any is taken. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #50
Comey & Trump had dinner in the executive dining room FakeNoose Jun 2017 #70
Trump speaks? Roy Rolling Jun 2017 #34
Under oath means nothing to Trump. hopeforchange2008 Jun 2017 #35
+ 1,000,000,000,000 milestogo Jun 2017 #75
I couldn't take MontanaMama Jun 2017 #36
Of course he would speak under oath. Mr.Bill Jun 2017 #37
Being under oath means nothing to Trump. He lies constantly GreydeeThos Jun 2017 #52
This article states cilla4progress Jun 2017 #41
We don't know. One thing they were investigating, Michael Flynn, and the Russian involvement in the still_one Jun 2017 #45
Game on ... he's taken the bait bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #42
Trump started his Presidency by lying before God with his hand on the Bible. keithbvadu2 Jun 2017 #46
He didn't lie marylandblue Jun 2017 #55
Last time he swore an oath, it was to uphold the Constitution. Iggo Jun 2017 #47
Questions to ask Trump obamachangetheworld Jun 2017 #49
5. What is that orage thing on top of your head ? CentralMass Jun 2017 #56
Desperate Donny lies again Juliusseizure Jun 2017 #57
To trump, the truth seems to be Turbineguy Jun 2017 #58
He was gonna release his taxes.. LakeArenal Jun 2017 #60
Trump is a serial liar Greensix1 Jun 2017 #61
This is a well tested strategy of his. JohnnyRingo Jun 2017 #62
Be careful what you wish for Drumpf Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2017 #63
Uh huh sure you would Donald. nt cstanleytech Jun 2017 #64
yes, Mr Trump, you have to speak under oath and tell the American people your version. Sunlei Jun 2017 #65
Testimony under oath? It's not Trump vs Comey; it's Trump vs tRump Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #66
Even lawyers who worked for Drumpf in the past wouldn't see him alone, because they wanted a witness judesedit Jun 2017 #69
Of course he would. He doesn't give a shit about oaths ... KPN Jun 2017 #71
thats all fine fuckhead Hula Popper Jun 2017 #72
Just from this we kmow he has ZERO intention whistler162 Jun 2017 #73
He didn't actually say that oberliner Jun 2017 #74
Here is the video linked in this article, and it sure sounds like he would be still_one Jun 2017 #77
100% C_U_L8R Jun 2017 #76

sheshe2

(83,896 posts)
39. Well I heard it said here...that he never listens to the voices of his lawyers.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:44 PM
Jun 2017

The man has diarrhea of the mouth and no control what so ever.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
3. Republican Pres Trump said about tapes: "I'll tell you about it over a very short period of time"
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:09 PM
Jun 2017

Reporter: "And you seem to be hinting that there are recordings of those conversations."

Republican President Trump: "I'm not hinting anything. I'll tell you about it over a very short period of time....Oh, you're going to be very disappointed when you hear the answer. Don't worry."

bucolic_frolic

(43,281 posts)
43. If he has recordings
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:04 PM
Jun 2017

it implies he records many things or every conversation.

There would be no end to what prosecutors would want to hear, every conversation with Sessions, Flynn ....

BillyBobBrilliant

(805 posts)
6. And once and for all
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:11 PM
Jun 2017

He will prove with Geometric Logic that there was a duplicate key and solve the case of the missing strawberries...

Saviolo

(3,283 posts)
7. He's still bluffing
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:13 PM
Jun 2017

He thinks he's still in a negotiation and that he can bluff his way out. He said a bunch of times that he'd do something and then never did it, and he's still saying it. He's never going to do what he says, it's just not what he does.

If they call him up to testify under oath, there will be some reason he doesn't have to.

still_one

(92,393 posts)
38. I think you are right Saviolo, it won't happen. The problem he has is some of these events occurred
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:43 PM
Jun 2017

before he was President, and claiming executive privilege is not going to work if they compel him to testify about events that happened before he was President. The republicans insured with Bill Clinton that doesn't apply to events before he became President


metalbot

(1,058 posts)
68. This
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 09:03 AM
Jun 2017

There's no way his lawyers will let him testify under oath, unless it is to a very short list of questions and they can prep all of the answers ahead of time.

But we can all pray that his enormous ego makes him disregard his attorneys...

LisaM

(27,830 posts)
8. Is he flat out lying, has he convinced himself that what happened didn't happen, or....
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:13 PM
Jun 2017

did he just forget?

Frankly, I think all three scenarios are plausible (or a combination of any and all).

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
9. Oh, GOODIE!
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:14 PM
Jun 2017

Bill Clinton's biggest mistake was testifying about his roving eye under oath. He didn't have to, but I guess he felt he could lawyer his way through. It came back to bite him on the ass.

In Trump's case, any bite placed anywhere on his person will be of ass.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
54. Clinton did have to
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:49 PM
Jun 2017

He was the defendant in Paula Jones's civil suit for harassment, which she was able to bring because the alleged actions and lawsuit were filed before he became president.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
59. Nope, he didn't have to give a sworn deposition. Period. He could have refused, the worst that would
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 06:48 PM
Jun 2017

have resulted is losing the CIVIL, not criminal case.

BFD.

His impeachment wound up costing him far more than Paula did.

Let's hope Trump follows suit.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
78. Depositions are court orders
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 03:25 PM
Jun 2017

If he refused, he would have been in contempt of a court order, which would have beeb evidence for an obstruction charge, a felony. He also would have lost the case by default.

The Congress in Clinton's second term was majority Republican. An obstruction charge/conviction and loss in a sexual harassment lawsuit would have been added to the perjury charge and made things much worse.



liberal N proud

(60,344 posts)
12. Butternut's oath isn't worth his breath.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:15 PM
Jun 2017

He took an oath to uphold the Constitution and since has attacked continuously.

joshdawg

(2,651 posts)
67. You are exactly right!
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 02:19 AM
Jun 2017

Matters not one whit if he is under oath or not, he will lie and lie and lie.
Everyone, except for his insane supporters, knows that this pos will lie.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
15. Trump promises a lot of things
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:18 PM
Jun 2017

that never come to pass.

We'll see if his family and his lawyer agree with testifying under oath, or if they'll weasel out of it

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
21. Just like we know tRump does not file tax returns?
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:20 PM
Jun 2017

Republican President Trump has a history of taping conversations before he gained office. Why would he stop after?

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
23. I believe any tape would show Trump is lying about their conversation.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:25 PM
Jun 2017

I'm sure he asked for loyalty and attempted to steer Comey away from further investigation and any tape would no doubt demonstrate this.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
18. Throughout his life, Donald J. Trump has come to expect, and demand, star treatment...
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:18 PM
Jun 2017

Might I suggest he get the Ken Starr treatment?






.

Floyd R. Turbo

(26,584 posts)
20. "Speak under oath" is not the same as giving testimony that can be examined and cross examined.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:20 PM
Jun 2017

Guaranteed if he does "speak under oath" it will be with the proviso that no questions may be asked.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
24. good point
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:25 PM
Jun 2017

didn't Bush & Cheney testify under oath, but it was in secret and not allowed to be recorded?

world wide wally

(21,754 posts)
22. Get him under oath and he will automatically commit perjury!
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:24 PM
Jun 2017

He can't help but lie.
It is in his DNA and he has no control over it.

He will lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lielie lie lie lie lie lie lie lielie lie lie lie lie lie lie lielie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie

relayerbob

(6,554 posts)
25. He's a sociopath
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:25 PM
Jun 2017

Lying under oath would be second nature to him, doubt it would even register with a polygraph. Hell, he probably really believes all the shit that pours out of mouth

healthnut7

(249 posts)
26. Under Oath
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:26 PM
Jun 2017

IMO means nothing to him. He would lie his butt off. Maybe if he agreed to a lie detector test and even then, since he believes everything he says he could probably pass that. I don't think the dude knows how to tell the truth and probably hasn't since maybe a small kid.

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
27. No, it is a simple and honest mispoken sound byte...
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:26 PM
Jun 2017

He meant that he would lie under oath!

He is new to this, he doesn't know any better!

Poor baby.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
31. Nope, dont think he ever said there were tapes, only if.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:30 PM
Jun 2017

And he will lie under oath about everything if there is no way to prove otherwise and if it is his word vs Comey then he will lie about everything.

still_one

(92,393 posts)
44. He only implied there were tapes by tweeting, "James Comey better hope that there are no tapes of
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:06 PM
Jun 2017

our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!"

First of all I do not believe that trump's lawyers will let him testify under oath. It isn't going to happen.

However, if he does, it is more than just one person's word against another.

1. Trump initiated a private meeting with Comey, not the other way around. That is a fact.
2. After the meeting, Comey not only documented that meeting, but related it to others in the FBI.
3. Comey contacted Attorney General Sessions and related that he never wanted to be alone with Trump without others present.
4. Trump has a pattern of making false statements. This is a matter of record.
5. Something occurred at that private meeting between Trump and Comey that bothered Comey enough to not only document it, but relate it to others.
6. There was no motive for Comey to lie about those events. They happened before he was fired, and when he was fired later, it was a complete surprise.
7. There was a motive for Trump to lie about those events, because it implicates him in possible obstruction

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
70. Comey & Trump had dinner in the executive dining room
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jun 2017

There are probably no recordings of that dinner, since it was in the dining room.

However Trump is surely recording every meeting in the Oval Office. Comey and Trump met twice in the Oval Office so he should be able to produce video/audio recordings. It's all digital now and they don't really make "tapes" like the analog days.

Just sayin'


Roy Rolling

(6,933 posts)
34. Trump speaks?
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:31 PM
Jun 2017

Trump: I would speak under oath about Comey
Roy Rolling: I wouldn't believe you if your tongue were notarized.

Mr.Bill

(24,319 posts)
37. Of course he would speak under oath.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 04:41 PM
Jun 2017

He doesn't worry about breaking any other laws, why should he worry about a little perjury? We will need 67 Democratic Senators to convict him.

GreydeeThos

(958 posts)
52. Being under oath means nothing to Trump. He lies constantly
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:46 PM
Jun 2017

Since every third sentence out of Trump's mouth contains some degree of deception, being sworn to an oath would not influence his words one iota.

still_one

(92,393 posts)
45. We don't know. One thing they were investigating, Michael Flynn, and the Russian involvement in the
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:10 PM
Jun 2017

2016 election.

Did that involve others?

That is why we have a special Counsel


bucolic_frolic

(43,281 posts)
42. Game on ... he's taken the bait
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:00 PM
Jun 2017

He simply can't resist. I think his mind is so distorted he really believes his own delusions.

keithbvadu2

(36,906 posts)
46. Trump started his Presidency by lying before God with his hand on the Bible.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:11 PM
Jun 2017

As if Trump cared about an oath.

Trump started his Presidency by lying before God with his hand on the Bible.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Emoluments

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
55. He didn't lie
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jun 2017

He just never read the constitution so his ability to defend it is very limited. Except Article 12. He is very familiar with that one.

49. Questions to ask Trump
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 05:29 PM
Jun 2017

1. Do you like to get peed on?
2. Who had the biggest inauguration crowd size you or Obama?
3. What does Vladimir Putin's !@#$ taste like?
4. How much money did you really have, before you started siphoning taxpayer money into your businesses?

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
57. Desperate Donny lies again
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 06:01 PM
Jun 2017

He has presidential immunity and knows it

He can't be forced to testify unless he's a defendant in a civil or criminal suit and then only under very narrow exceptions.

Turbineguy

(37,365 posts)
58. To trump, the truth seems to be
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 06:03 PM
Jun 2017

whatever he thinks it is at any given time. So on one day things are this way, tomorrow they are that way. But both are the truth. He can say anything under oath or not and at that given moment he believes he's telling the truth.

LakeArenal

(28,845 posts)
60. He was gonna release his taxes..
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 07:22 PM
Jun 2017

He was gonna drain the swamp
He was gonna stop Isis
He was gonna give the money to charity
He was gonna make a Muslim ban
He was gonna be to busy to play golf
He was gonna repeal Obama care
He was gonna get healthcare for everyone
He was gonna fix the roads
He was gonna make taxes fair
He was gonna ... He was gonna.. He was gonna


He was gonna make 'Merica Grate Agin....

 

Greensix1

(67 posts)
61. Trump is a serial liar
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 07:33 PM
Jun 2017

Nothing Trump says, has said, or will say can be trusted. Where are his tax returns? A HONEST person would have released them simply because they said they would, and not because anyone wanted to see them.

JohnnyRingo

(18,641 posts)
62. This is a well tested strategy of his.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 08:35 PM
Jun 2017

He says something that sounds boldly fantastic, then very quietly backs down when the time arrives. Just like when he said he sent a team to Hawaii to research Obama's birth certificate and said: "you wouldn't believe what they're finding". That led people to think it was a forgone conclusion that Obama was a fraud. Of course he wasn't, but that sticks in people's minds.

In this case, people can assume Trump must be telling the truth or he wouldn't be willing to testify under oath. When and if the time arrives that his bluff is called, he just says he "really wants to, but his lawyers said he should not". Damn those lawyers. They also stopped him from releasing his tax returns while he's under audit.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
65. yes, Mr Trump, you have to speak under oath and tell the American people your version.
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 10:10 PM
Jun 2017

As soon as possible. Have a Saturday morning session, AM is your best time of day.

You're the president don't let Ryan/Pence talk you out of it!

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
66. Testimony under oath? It's not Trump vs Comey; it's Trump vs tRump
Fri Jun 9, 2017, 11:14 PM
Jun 2017

Trump is so stupid that a good lawyer could trip him up on this.

He's been caught lying in depositions in civil cases before. Government is more complex. Who knew it was so hard? Everyone but Republican stupid President Trump.

judesedit

(4,443 posts)
69. Even lawyers who worked for Drumpf in the past wouldn't see him alone, because they wanted a witness
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 12:10 PM
Jun 2017

to what was said in the meeting. Drumpf lies so much the lawyers (he doesn't usually pay either) don't believe a word he says.

KPN

(15,650 posts)
71. Of course he would. He doesn't give a shit about oaths ...
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jun 2017

except oaths of allegiance to him. And he's lined up a shit-ton of those with Repugnants since early in the primary. He will just lie under oath and expect his loyal minions to protect him.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
73. Just from this we kmow he has ZERO intention
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 05:02 PM
Jun 2017

of testifying under oath "One hundred per cent," Mr Trump said."

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
74. He didn't actually say that
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 06:41 PM
Jun 2017

Notice the only thing in quotation marks in "100 percent" - not the rest of it.

Trump clearly didn't even really understand the question he was being asked.

He did not utter the sentence: "I am 100% willing to speak under oath about his conversations with ex-FBI chief James Comey." or anything close to it.

All he said was 100 percent to a question that obviously confused him if you listen to what followed.

still_one

(92,393 posts)
77. Here is the video linked in this article, and it sure sounds like he would be
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 10:21 PM
Jun 2017

happy to testify under oath.

The reporter first pointed out to trump that Comey was under oath when he made statements regarding Flynn, loyalty and other things, and trump replied that did not happen. The reporter then very directly asked trump if he would be willing to testify under oath, and he said 100%. There was no ambiguity about the context


http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/337165-trump-im-100-percent-willing-to-testify-under-oath

C_U_L8R

(45,020 posts)
76. 100%
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 07:05 PM
Jun 2017

Right there is a liar's 'tell'


#6 Liars overemphasize their truthfulness. “To tell you the truth…” “Honestly…” “I swear to you…” Oh, if only it were so! When people use these bolstering statements to emphasize their honesty, there’s a good chance they are hiding something. Learning to baseline someone’s normal behavior is important in situations such as this: You want to listen for normal or harmless use of such phrases. There’s no need to add them if you really are telling the truth, so be on guard.

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