Senate GOP updates health care bill to include 6-month lockout for uninsured
Source: Yahoo News
Liz Goodwin
Senior National Affairs Reporter
Yahoo NewsJune 26, 2017
WASHINGTON Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Monday updated the health care bill he is whipping votes for to penalize people who do not have insurance and wish to purchase it on the exchanges.
The new bill says that people who have lacked insurance coverage for 63 days or more must wait six months before reentering the marketplace. This change is meant to prevent a death spiral of healthy people waiting until they become sick to buy insurance, driving up costs for everyone. The Senate health care bill gets rid of Obamacares individual mandate that requires everyone to purchase health insurance or pay a fine.
The bills adjustments are unlikely to win over any of the five GOP senators who are publicly opposed to the current legislation. Four conservative senators said they want the bill to repeal more of Obamacare, and one moderate, Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada, said the bill does not do enough to protect Nevadans on Medicaid. More changes are expected later this week.
McConnell wants to vote on the health care bill by the end of the week, despite demands from several Republicans, including Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., for more time. He must get at least 50 members of his 52-person caucus to support the bill.
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sakabatou
(42,155 posts)turbinetree
(24,703 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)Then, the ambulance techs will do whatever they can, and the ER staff will likewise do their best. All this will happen whether or not you have insurance, just like today, just like before the ACA.
The tab for all this, if you have no insurance, will be YUGE.
I think the change to the senate's bill means that, while you're waiting for the ambulance to arrive, you can't sign up for insurance that will cover the impending expenses.
unblock
(52,253 posts)it's much better to lock healthy people in than to lock sick people out.
under obamacare, healthy people aren't even "locked" in, they merely get an incentive to stay in.
but the sick people locked? many will suffer, many will go bankrupt, many will lose their jobs, and many will die.
but, hey, how else can adelson get his $40 million tax cut?
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Making money by forcing people to bet whether they will get sick or not.
It is immoral that a country with the resources we have runs their health care industry in the manner that we do.
unblock
(52,253 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Especially when one considers that the unhealthy are likely to be/become unemployed.....
unblock
(52,253 posts)the man is the head of household and takes care of his dependents.
that's the extent of their thinking in terms of how people who aren't employed should get health care.
rurallib
(62,423 posts)OMG what a loaded term.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)IronLionZion
(45,453 posts)just don't matter. People lose their jobs only when healthy, right? These assholes are so convinced that everyone is a cheater like them.
Healthy people waiting until sick to buy insurance is what a Republican would do.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)Seeing as this bill puts preexisting conditions back into the marketplace. Mitch must think we're all as dumb as the people who keep electing him.
What an utterly worthless excuse for a human being, let alone a Public Servant.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)these folks when they do re enroll? Know in the House Bill,that provision was in their.
LeftInTX
(25,372 posts)It is a strange penalty.
I think the surcharge is better. I know Medicare B has a surcharge.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)My question deals with those who let their Policies Lapse. Do remember a stipulation where a Insurance Carrier can and would in most cases Surcharge you a 30% or more penalty for the Lapse of payments. And in this POS,there is similiar language which read is vague at best.
Again,this whole thing is two pronged. Anthem BC and Cigna will merge(38 Billion tax free merger),1.1 Trillion dollar Tax break for the 400 riches families.
LeftInTX
(25,372 posts)The House bill has the 30% surcharge.
I've been researching this bill all weekend. It became quite evident there was absolutely no penalty at all. I read many articles that were sounding alarm bells:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/22/15856114/senate-health-bill-death-spiral
The WaPo has a great graphic, but behind a paywall:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/23/republicans-say-the-health-insurance-market-is-in-a-death-spiral-their-bill-could-make-it-really-happen/?utm_term=.7555955f6ce0
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)would remain. One of McConnell's so called aides commented to the fact these penalties would remain in reconciliation.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)have no honor
Botany
(70,516 posts)n/t
C Moon
(12,213 posts)flotsam
(3,268 posts)My younger brother was seeing blood in his stool but ignored it too long because he was uninsured. They put him on medicaid and covered him immediately but because he had waited the cancer spread and killed him after 2 1/2 years of horrendously expensive medical care. He was merely foolish-he could easily have gotten medicaid earlier, but now they are building a system to cause thousands of Jeffs-people who (rightly) suspect something is fixing to kill them who will let the something run wild for six months untreated rather than causing a pre-existing condition by having it checked. The people who wrote this bill should be tied down in a room of starving weasels.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)she was sick but no insurance, so she didn't see a doctor and didn't see a doctor until she nearly died. it was pneumonia and it destroyed her lungs. after 4 years of suffering, at least 3 near death experiences with extended hospital stays, and a suicide attempt, her suffering finally came to an end last December. She was 61 years old and we were friends all of our lives. The cost of her care will never be paid by her family if they live to be 1,000 years old.
I'm so sorry about the loss of your brother. Health care in this country is perverse and cruel.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)red dog 1
(27,817 posts)the Turtle will probably go back into his shell to hide from the press.
The "five GOP senators who are publicly opposed to the current legislation" are not the only ones the Turtle has to convince to vote "yea" on this heartless, cruel, tax-breaks-for-the-wealthy POS "health-care-bill,"
He also has several GOP senators who are undecided, such as Bill Cassidy (R-LA), who is considered a "crucial vote" and whose state recently expanded Medicaid,
as well as Jerry Moran of Kansas, "usually a reliable vote for Senate Republican leaders," who said on Fox News: "I just don't know whether the votes will be there by the end of the week."
(6/25, NYT article: "Senate Leaders Try to Appease Members as Support for Health Bill Slips"
K&R, thanks for posting
Vinca
(50,278 posts)He also made it costlier when your stage 1 cancer goes to stage 4 over those 6 months.
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)Namely, the coercive euthanizing of all poor and minority people.
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)words they fully intend to pass this shit and are trying to lull the gullible into thinking that some of them actually care about anyone other than those that earn 250,000 or more a year.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)... they'd roll a gurney down the Senate aisle so he could vote. And much fanfare would ensue.
That is, of course, if he was going to vote "Aye". If not, McConnell will let him stay in the hospital.