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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 12:48 PM Jun 2017

Despite Trump's Claims, Obamacare Isn't Collapsing

Source: Political Wire





June 28, 2017 at 8:42 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

Congressional Budget Office: “Although premiums have been rising under current law, most subsidized enrollees purchasing health insurance coverage in the nongroup market are largely insulated from increases in premiums because their out-of-pocket payments for premiums are based on a percentage of their income; the government pays the difference between that percentage and the premiums for a reference plan… Nevertheless, a small number of people live in areas of the country that have limited participation by insurers in the nongroup market under current law.”

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Despite Trump's Claims, Obamacare Isn't Collapsing (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2017 OP
60K zipplewrath Jun 2017 #1
If they actually wanted to fix the problem, it would be pretty easy... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #3
It's not collapsing, it is being udermined... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #2
"Risk Corridors" - How Republicans sabotaged the ACA vlyons Jun 2017 #4
I cant freaking believe it viyons! busterbrown Jun 2017 #9
Yes, Republican Rubio has to be made to wear that sabotage. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #10
Remember, too, that without the ACA, those premiums would have skyrocketed, unrestrained. calimary Jun 2017 #5
If it collapses it will be because of Trump and the actions of the GOP. Scalded Nun Jun 2017 #6
Trump is a liar Gothmog Jun 2017 #7
Don Viejo.. Help! busterbrown Jun 2017 #8
Kick. dalton99a Jun 2017 #11
Hey kids, this is your brain. Initech Jun 2017 #12

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
1. 60K
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 01:00 PM
Jun 2017

I heard a brief analysis one day that the number of people who are actually buying insurance in these counties with 1 or no insurance plans is around 60,000 people. Seems like a rather solvable problem without throwing 20+ million people off of medicaid to "fix" the ACA.

Wounded Bear

(58,685 posts)
3. If they actually wanted to fix the problem, it would be pretty easy...
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 01:05 PM
Jun 2017

but they obviously don't want to fix the problem. At least the real problem. The "problem" that they want to fix is the old "I pay too much in taxes" problem.

Wounded Bear

(58,685 posts)
2. It's not collapsing, it is being udermined...
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 01:03 PM
Jun 2017

Repubs have been trying since the beginning to make the program look like it's failing. Most of the worst "problems" with the ACA are happening in red states that rejected the Medicaid expansion and refused to put any effort to set up the exchanges. The fact that the "deplorables" can't see what is happening in the blue states that actually worked to implement the program is a testament to the effectiveness of the RW fake news industry.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
4. "Risk Corridors" - How Republicans sabotaged the ACA
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jun 2017

Republicans won't tell you is why it is that the insurers are running away from a plan that they had no small hand in creating. The answer is obvious - the plan was changed, to the detriment of the insurers ... by a Senator Marco Rubio from Florida, the state that likely consumes more health care per capita than any other.

In December of 2014, Rubio inserted the poison pill that would neuter the effectiveness of the risk corridor program into a must-pass budget reconciliation bill. Budget reconciliation is the same strategery that Paul Ryan has been hoping to use to get his Trump-Care initiative bulled through, as such legislation is filibuster-proof. Rubio’s amendment placed a hard limit on risk corridor payments, thus restoring the risk to insurers that the risk corridor policy was designed to mitigate. More than anything else, it was this single act that caused insurers to "flee the exchanges", especially in those states that did not expand Medicaid.


https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/23/1646512/-Risk-Corridors-or-How-Marco-Rubio-Broke-Obamacare

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
9. I cant freaking believe it viyons!
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 03:36 PM
Jun 2017

I just posted a question to Don Viejo about that...and you verified my question..

I can not for Fing life in me why Dems. are not bringing this up everyday all frteaking day..>
I’m getting rather annoyed... more like really pissed.

calimary

(81,415 posts)
5. Remember, too, that without the ACA, those premiums would have skyrocketed, unrestrained.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 01:10 PM
Jun 2017

The increase would have been MUCH higher, and MUCH sooner.

The ACA has held them down. It'd be far worse, and on far more people, without it.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
6. If it collapses it will be because of Trump and the actions of the GOP.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 01:53 PM
Jun 2017

They have done everything possible to mortally wound it and now want to point to the Dems as the problem.

They are despicable creatures.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
8. Don Viejo.. Help!
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 03:32 PM
Jun 2017

I rely on your posts for info and thanks for that..
But why is not the “Loss Corridor" part of the AHCA which insures Heathcare Insurance Compabies reccover losses
if and when they were losing money.. Wasn’t that ass Marco Rubio a few years ago the lead on a bill a which took Millioms out of that part of that program.

Wasn’t The Loss Corridor a safety net for the insurance companies which enabled them to stay in the game..and isn’t that the reason why many healthcare companies packed their bags?

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