Bernie Sanders slams 'pathetic' fraud claim against his wife

[George II]

Source: BBC

3 hours ago From the section US & Canada

The FBI is reportedly investigating whether Jane Sanders lied to financiers while securing a loan for a college which she led.

Mr Sanders told CNN: "It's a sad state of affairs in America when not only we have politicians being destroyed, but when you go after people's wives.

The couple are understood to have hired high-profile Washington lawyers.

Mr Sanders, a senator for Vermont, has previously called the inquiry politically motivated.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40433145

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The BBC posted this on their site at noon today. Much more at the BBC link.

[Doug the Dem]

1. The Locking of https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141809657

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141809657

Reason for Lock:

"Published 06/27/17 08:01 PM EDT, posted in LBN Jun 28, 2017, 02:12 PM over 12 hours old." - Don Viejo, Moderator

DV's decision makes perfect sense to me! So why has This thread, telling the exact same story, Not been Locked? Yes, the story on the BBC website was posted there less than 12 hours before being copied and pasted-posted here. But that means the original breaking story was EVEN FURTHER outside the 12-hour window!

Yours in Confusion,
Doug

[stonecutter357]

2. LOL Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

[JI7]

3. politicians wives have always been attacked. at least when it comes to democrats

The attacks on first ladies. John kerrys wife.

This is not new.

[Igel]

28. Jackie Kennedy.

Ladybird Johnson.

Mostly spoke well of.

Nancy Reagan, mocked.

Bush I's wife. Mocked.

HRC. Can't be separated from healthcare and Lewinsky.

Then Laura Bush. Mocked.

Michelle Obama, not so much. But when she was mocked it was Frontpage News here.

[JI7]

29. a lot of right wing bs here. blaming hillary for lewinsky

Laura was not attacked. Nancy Reagan and barbara Bush might have had some jokes made about them but there was nothing horrible.

And you are just fine with the bigoted attacks on michelle.

[George II]

33. Exactly - very few first ladies (which can be considered a sexist term, btw) have been attacked....

....the only ones in that group I can recall is Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. Clinton mostly because she was intellectually threatening, and Obama mostly with vile racist comments and pictures (and also too smart for their liking)

The two Bushes and Nancy Reagan were treated with respect other than a few minor joking comments, which were more in jest and not mean spirited. Even Melania is being respected so far, probably out of pity for having to deal with that dolt she married.

[bettyellen]

37. LOL you missed a whole lot of irrationalHRC hate, from using Rodham to Pizzagate they roasted her

every damn day with bullshit.

You missed all the transvestite and gorilla memes about Michele too? Who are you kidding?

[tonyt53]

4. This isn't about you Bernie, or politics, it is about whether your wife broke any laws.

Evidently there is enough "smoke" to take a better look to see if there is a fire.

[WhiteTara]

27. Well, it is a bit about Bernie too, because

he is accused of pressuring the bank using his prestige as the senator from Vermont.

[nycbos]

5. Didn't she talk about the dangerous of having a nominee under FBI investigation?

Didn't the Trump harp about Hillary being under investigation?


So Hillary was the only one NOT under investigation.


In the words of Mel Allan, "how about that?"

[R B Garr]

12. +1000 nt

[MADem]

16. This isn't a new investigation, either. She's HAD to have known about it.

The only thing "new" that has been reported is that both she and her husband have hired criminal defense attorneys. The fact that the FBI had been interviewing Burlington College donors has been out there since well before the election.

NPR coverage: http://digital.vpr.net/post/jane-sanders-hires-lawyers-burlington-college-investigation-continues#stream/0

[George II]

34. The investigation was opened very early in 2016, almost a year and a half ago.

[mcar]

6. What would the FBI's motive be in

conducting a fraudulent investigation of Mrs. Sanders? I can understand his being unhappy about the investigation but to spin it as pathetic and going after his wife for no apparent reason defies common sense.

[Trial_By_Fire]

7. In todays' Sanders bashing....

From the same article..."

"The FBI investigation stems from a January 2016 complaint by Brady Toensing, who was chairman of the Trump campaign in Vermont."

Says it all.....

[R B Garr]

11. Nice try, but it was first published by Vermont newspapers.

What's wrong with Vermont newspapers reporting on business that affects Vermonters??

[left-of-center2012]

13. "... Brady Toensing, who was chairman of the Trump campaign in Vermont"

We need to investigate who's behind all this.

The Trumpettes obviously see Bernie and his supporters as a threat in future elections and are trying to take him down
to weaken the Democrats and their supporters.

We are stronger when we are united!

[R B Garr]

14. The Trumpies love Bernie because he bashes Democrats.

He's an asset to them.

[left-of-center2012]

43. "The Trumpies love Bernie ..."

Really?

[R B Garr]

47. That's just common knowledge. Trump just tweeted a

"poor Bernie" tweet the other day. Anyone attacking Democrats is an asset. Not something to laugh at, actually.

[left-of-center2012]

49. "poor Bernie"

We all know how Trump likes to make fun of people, and mock them.

[R B Garr]

50. Wrong again. That tweet was a gesture of support for Bernie.

Anyone who criticizes Democrats is an asset to them.

[left-of-center2012]

52. Who knows?

No one knows what the 'Trumpster' means when he tweets.
He'll say one thing today, and another tomorrow.
We know he lies all the time.

Using Trump's words to attack someone is just wrong.

[R B Garr]

53. Trump does contradict himself, but that tweet was a gesture of support

for Bernie. It's common knowledge that anyone attacking Democrats is an asset to the GOP, which is what my original post said. It's just common knowledge.

[Trial_By_Fire]

17. Sanders is not only threat in future elections, but...

...also a threat regarding issues and policies.

These progressive liberal FDR-like issues and policies is what Americans want
and therefore is a threat to the corporate politicians.

[hrmjustin]

20. You do understand that Democrats and Republicans file complaints against each other all the time?

The investigation is based on Jane Sanders actions.

[Adrahil]

48. I'm more interested in the evidence....

It's okay to be suspicious based on the source, but the FBI wouldn't start an actual investigation unless there evidence that indicated the possibility a crime was committed.

I must admit... ever since the Sanderses refused to release their income taxes, I've been pretty suspicious.

[NurseJackie]

8. I certainly hope this isn't a distraction from his obligations as a lawmaker.

[Txbluedog]

9. Why would it be?

If the President can keep Presidenting while he is under FBI investigation, Sanders can keep doing his job while his wife is under investigation

[NurseJackie]

18. Such a comparison (defense?) is very unflattering to Sanders. Did you mean it to be?

[MADem]

19. He's under investigation, too, and has hired his own separate lawyer.

The allegation is that he leaned on the Peoples Bank to compel them to approve the fraudulent loan.

It has been established that the numbers were fudged. The only question at this point is who takes the blame for the fudging. Jane did sign the documents presented to the bank. She's also hired Scooter Libby's lawyer.

I believe the accusations against Sanders might be coming FROM bankers involved in the issue of the loan, but I don't know that for certain. That will no doubt all come out when the case is wrapped up.

The investigation is still ongoing, though. No conclusions have been reached, so it's pointless to speculate as to the outcome at this point in time. About the only point of interest is that he had to know this was percolating when he was pointing fingers elsewhere, which makes him appear a bit opportunistic, to be kind about it.

[NurseJackie]

21. Excellent observations, MADem ... thanks for organizing and explaining them.

[Jamaal510]

10. K&R

[geek tragedy]

15. Um, she's a former college President, not just a wife.

this isn't the 1920's.

Also,

*************
Preet Bharara @PreetBharara

All politicians hate investigations. All cry "political motivation." Democrat, republican, socialist, whig. Oldest & lamest play in the book

https://mobile.twitter.com/preetbharara/status/879916450441572354

[JI7]

23. benghazi was nothing but political motivation

By republicans

[OilemFirchen]

22. As with the Clintons, I give them the benefit of the doubt.

I know it's archaic, but I can't help myself.

[Dustlawyer]

24. Glad to see we are all united behind Progressives since the Republicans are destroying the country!

[klook]

26. The enemy is bearing down on us -- time for a purge!

Attention all Bernie haters -- fresh opportunity to pile on!

[George II]

35. So if it's determined that fraud was committed (no conclusion yet, the investigation...

...is ongoing) you'd be alright with that because it was done by a "progressive"?

[Dustlawyer]

45. No, but a rush to pile on what is probably a Republican smear attack is

just what they want.

[George II]

46. Who is rushing to pile on? No one that I've seen here or anywhere.

[Jose Garcia]

44. Being married to a Progressive doesn't give you carte blance to commit bank fraud

[NBachers]

25. I give him more credibility if he hadn't been running around slamming the pathetic Democratic Party

[Tarheel_Dem]

31. That and the fact that Jane jokingly called for the FBI to speed up the Clinton email investigation.

Funny how the people who joked & cheered in interviews and at campaign rallies about "Hillary's email" are now all under investigation themselves.

[R B Garr]

30. It's nice to see Bernie's sudden about-face over "politicians being destroyed."

[Gothmog]

32. I have not trouble with this investigation

A federally insured financial institution made a loan based on certain representations. It is illegal to make false statements to a federally insured financial institution to get a loan. If the financial institution lost money, then the taxpayers need to find out the facts

[enid602]

36. Jane

The republicans have already gone after Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, etc. why not Jane? Anything to give tRump a bit of shade during this very troubled time.

[WIProgressive88]

38. Obviously, if any laws were broken, hopefully the proper individuals are held accountable.

However, the gleeful manner in which some here are reacting to this investigation is rather sad. This sort of reaction would never be tolerated here with almost any other politician on our side.

[George II]

39. Can you direct us to the "gleeful" posts of which you speak?

[WIProgressive88]

40. Umm...try reading through your own thread maybe?

Please don't treat me like I'm stupid. A number of posters here are very transparent.

[George II]

41. You said there were gleeful posters here, I say there aren't. So far I'm correct, you?

[WIProgressive88]

42. As I said--read through your own thread. Try reading through some of this one as well:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141809657

As I also said, there are a number of posters here who are very transparent. We have the same group of posters who are constantly posting passive-aggressive comments to get in their digs at Bernie supporters, and it is no coincidence that many of them have shown up in this thread.

[hrmjustin]

51. My post in that thread asks a simple question.

No dig at Sanders supporters.