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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:11 AM Jul 2017

Black deliveryman who was handed noose by West Village butcher can't return to work, lawsuit says

Source: New York Daily News


BY SHAYNA JACOBS
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Monday, July 3, 2017, 4:00 AM

The black deliveryman handed a noose by the owner of the famed Ottomanelli & Sons Meat Market claims he’s too traumatized to go back to work.

-snip-

Joe Ottomanelli passed Sheppard a hand-fashioned noose at the butcher shop on April 5 during a morning meat delivery.

“Here is your gift. You can put it around your neck and pull if you want to end it all,” Ottomanelli, 58, said, according to a criminal complaint.

“If you are feeling stressed out I can help you with it.”

Ottomanelli is charged with a hate crime.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/deliveryman-noose-nyc-butcher-return-work-suit-article-1.3295815?cid=bitly

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Black deliveryman who was handed noose by West Village butcher can't return to work, lawsuit says (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2017 OP
Holy shit. Otomanelli's is the most well known butcher in NYC! Or at least downtown. Wow he fucked bettyellen Jul 2017 #1
I hope you're right not fooled Jul 2017 #7
On Bleeker St it's going to hurt them. I think they have a bettyellen Jul 2017 #13
I hope a boycott is in the works. (nt) Paladin Jul 2017 #2
From the linked article: left-of-center2012 Jul 2017 #8
I hope he gets a black judge mercuryblues Jul 2017 #3
Something tells me their business is going to slow down SHRED Jul 2017 #4
K&R for broader exposure uppityperson Jul 2017 #5
Dude probably thought there won't be consequences during the era of Trump IronLionZion Jul 2017 #6
Right. DK504 Jul 2017 #10
I think they thought all Italians were anarchists, which angstlessk Jul 2017 #15
in 1891 they tried to make America great again IronLionZion Jul 2017 #16
Thanks for that...I was thinking political, but you are correct.. angstlessk Jul 2017 #18
Some historical events are deliberately not taught IronLionZion Jul 2017 #19
I wouldn't buy meat there psychopomp Jul 2017 #9
Now the owner is saying it was a long time employee robbob Jul 2017 #11
How is this acceptable behavior in New York City FakeNoose Jul 2017 #12
And in the West Village in NYC! smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #14
What kind of hatred, what kind of a person does something like that? Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #17
The place in the picture really looks like a dump. I shudder to think what he may be serving blacks nikibatts Jul 2017 #20
During WWII there were concentration camps for Italians jmowreader Jul 2017 #21
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
1. Holy shit. Otomanelli's is the most well known butcher in NYC! Or at least downtown. Wow he fucked
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:14 AM
Jul 2017

His family business with that. Idiot.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
7. I hope you're right
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:46 AM
Jul 2017

but in this day and age, the opposite could happen.

In the age of dump, tragically it's not inconceivable.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. On Bleeker St it's going to hurt them. I think they have a
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:38 AM
Jul 2017

Place in Queens too. And a steak house. Not sure about those. But I think Bleeker is their flagship and this wil hurt them.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
8. From the linked article:
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:50 AM
Jul 2017

"The Rev. Kevin McCall, the national crisis director of National Action Network, called for a boycott of the beloved meat mecca."

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
3. I hope he gets a black judge
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:29 AM
Jul 2017

In what fucking world is it ever okay to hand anyone a noose and say that shit? Oh yeah...trump's world. Maybe he is looking for a job at trump's resort.

IronLionZion

(45,458 posts)
6. Dude probably thought there won't be consequences during the era of Trump
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:41 AM
Jul 2017

And no one told Ottomanelli that there was a time in our history when Italians were lynched on suspicion of being criminals?

DK504

(3,847 posts)
10. Right.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:53 AM
Jul 2017

If you even think about calling ny Italian person any of the epithets today, you would lose your job.

Can't wait til this guy loses everything. Let's see how he likes it when he has to go on food stamps.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
15. I think they thought all Italians were anarchists, which
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jul 2017

at the time was considered criminal..i.e the most famous case Sacco & Vanzetti..I am sure there were many other less publicized cases.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacco_and_Vanzetti

IronLionZion

(45,458 posts)
16. in 1891 they tried to make America great again
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:55 AM
Jul 2017

by claiming that Italians were Mafia criminals who assassinate police

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_14,_1891_lynchings

They made an HBO movie about it called Vendetta with Christopher Walken

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
18. Thanks for that...I was thinking political, but you are correct..
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 12:07 PM
Jul 2017

I will look for the movie.

In searching for the movie, I realized I had seen it, but did not know at the time it was a true story.

There is so much history about the US that is never taught!

IronLionZion

(45,458 posts)
19. Some historical events are deliberately not taught
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 12:15 PM
Jul 2017

I suspect some issues are bit uncomfortable for some people so they just avoid it.

psychopomp

(4,668 posts)
9. I wouldn't buy meat there
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 10:51 AM
Jul 2017

What a filthy excuse for a man! Who knows what his foul hands touched before he touched the meats?

robbob

(3,531 posts)
11. Now the owner is saying it was a long time employee
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:07 AM
Jul 2017

...who has since been fired. The delivery guy is still insisting it was the boss. Meanwhile, the comment section of Yelp is getting nasty, and the Facebook link seems to be closed.

Bonehead move, whoever did it...

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
12. How is this acceptable behavior in New York City
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:21 AM
Jul 2017

It's not even acceptable in the deep South. That butcher must be living in some alternate universe.
How would a man whose family came from another country, feel right about this?

It boggles my mind.



 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. And in the West Village in NYC!
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:46 AM
Jul 2017

If it was the owner, he just screwed himself royally. Not only was it wrong and evil, it was just downright stupid!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. What kind of hatred, what kind of a person does something like that?
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:56 AM
Jul 2017

I hope he lands in jail and not just a fine.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
21. During WWII there were concentration camps for Italians
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 02:04 PM
Jul 2017

Little-known history: if you were of Italian heritage and born anywhere outside the US, you were taken to a camp unless your county sheriff would vouch for you. My great grandmother was caught up in this: born in Canada, she hadn't gotten her citizenship when the war broke out. She spent the war confined to Shoshone County, Idaho, with her phone tapped, and couldn't speak Italian on the phone or in public. That she was the biggest bootlegger in North Idaho during Prohibition didn't help matters any.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Italian_Americans

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