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QED

(2,747 posts)
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 12:23 PM Jul 2017

Miami judge rules Floridas new Stand-Your-Ground law is unconstitutional

Source: Miami Herald

Florida’s updated “Stand Your Ground” self-defense law is unconstitutional, a Miami judge ruled on Monday.

Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Milton Hirsch ruled that lawmakers overstepped their authority in creating the law this year that forces prosecutors to disprove a defendant’s self-defense claim at a pre-trial hearing.

The judge ruled that under Florida’s constitution, that change should have been crafted by the Florida Supreme Court, not the Legislature.

“As a matter of constitutional separation of powers, that procedure cannot be legislatively modified,” Hirsch wrote in a 14-page order.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article159394094.html



Glad to read this. The law was insane to begin with and then forcing prosecutors to prove a negative beyond insane.
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Miami judge rules Floridas new Stand-Your-Ground law is unconstitutional (Original Post) QED Jul 2017 OP
The first good news I have heard all day katmondoo Jul 2017 #1
Praises for SANITY and the good Miami judge. lark Jul 2017 #2
How many death threats has Hirsch received since this ruling? Orrex Jul 2017 #3
My thoughts leftieNanner Jul 2017 #11
SYG is a death threat. Iggo Jul 2017 #12
Mostly for minorities, though... Orrex Jul 2017 #13
Yup. Iggo Jul 2017 #15
So the system hasn't broken down entirely. Good news. Nitram Jul 2017 #4
Too Late for poor Travon Martin and his family Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #5
Actually the law that acquitted Zimmerman would be the fallback. elias7 Jul 2017 #8
Zimmerman didn't use SYG law. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2017 #9
He didn't need to B Stieg Jul 2017 #17
Dead people can't be witnesses IronLionZion Jul 2017 #6
K&R HAB911 Jul 2017 #7
As a Floridian, every time I see my state in a news headline, I flinch... FM123 Jul 2017 #10
I feel ya. Iggo Jul 2017 #14
Who's on first? keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #16

lark

(23,105 posts)
2. Praises for SANITY and the good Miami judge.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jul 2017

Boo hiss for the idiotic Florida legislature and their pro-killing efforts.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
15. Yup.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 03:00 PM
Jul 2017

SYG is definitely NOT designed to protect minorities.


(LOL. My autocorrect changed SYG to DUH.)

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
5. Too Late for poor Travon Martin and his family
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 01:16 PM
Jul 2017

I am still sickened by it years later. How any jury could have acquitted George Zimnerman in incomprehensible.

elias7

(4,008 posts)
8. Actually the law that acquitted Zimmerman would be the fallback.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 01:55 PM
Jul 2017

Legislature tried to make it so defendant could not only claim it, but didn't have to prove it, rather prosecutor has to disprove it. Like innocent until proven guilty. Self defense until proven otherwise.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
6. Dead people can't be witnesses
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 01:25 PM
Jul 2017

we'll never hear their side of the story. Anyone can feel scared at any time. That doesn't justify using deadly force to kill someone and then claim self defense.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
10. As a Floridian, every time I see my state in a news headline, I flinch...
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 02:16 PM
Jul 2017

Unfortunately we are known for world class crazy antics so imagine my surprise and relief to read about the law 😀

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
14. I feel ya.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 02:57 PM
Jul 2017

It was California for the longest time, with our hippies and our communes and our cell phones and our lattes.

We seem to be mostly past that now. (And most of that was before the internet.)

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