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NeoConsSuck

(2,544 posts)
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 08:18 PM Aug 2017

Wisconsin won't break even on Foxconn plant incentives for 25 years

Source: Reuters

Wisconsin is not projected to break even on a $3 billion incentive package for a proposed LCD screen plant by Taiwan's Foxconn for at least 25 years, a legislative analysis showed on Tuesday.

Foxconn hopes to open a $10 billion plant in 2020 at a 1,000-acre site in southeastern Wisconsin and state leaders, including Republican Governor Scott Walker, have touted the incentives as a boon because of the jobs that will be created.

Critics have attacked the plan as too expensive and potentially harmful to the environment.

Based on estimates from the non-partisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau, Wisconsin will not receive a return on its investment in the project until about 2042. The bureau provides fiscal analysis for the state legislature.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-foxconn-wisconsin-idUSKBN1AO2JQ

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Wisconsin won't break even on Foxconn plant incentives for 25 years (Original Post) NeoConsSuck Aug 2017 OP
The technology will have changed well before 25 years. rickford66 Aug 2017 #1
you're exactly right. n/t 5X Aug 2017 #4
Yep, some competition is here already... Duppers Aug 2017 #10
Happened 3 times.......... MyOwnPeace Aug 2017 #12
And the locals are lucky if there's no lasting environmental damage. rickford66 Aug 2017 #22
By which time it will have closed down years ago, and moved to Cambodia. sandensea Aug 2017 #2
They want to go after welfare along with the rest of the social safety net, but not Dustlawyer Aug 2017 #3
Walker's Legacy drive. Wellstone ruled Aug 2017 #5
Race to the bottom. Willie Pep Aug 2017 #7
The real player in this nightmare are the Koch's,Walton's,Mercer's and of course Wellstone ruled Aug 2017 #11
Walker will never ever be president lordsummerisle Aug 2017 #19
Hate to say it, Wellstone ruled Aug 2017 #21
Tell me... Kensan Aug 2017 #6
Fuck shenmue Aug 2017 #8
This plant is going to include anti-suicide features, correct? jmowreader Aug 2017 #9
That was my first thought as well.. annabanana Aug 2017 #14
The art of the deal mountain grammy Aug 2017 #13
Duh mb deal guvnor benld74 Aug 2017 #15
Bad deal SHRED Aug 2017 #16
IMO Walker doesn't give a r$ts a$$ if.... usaf-vet Aug 2017 #17
And, of course to help Ryan get reelected. The plant AJT Aug 2017 #26
You should have stayed on the train! SCVDem Aug 2017 #18
Do their taxpayers know that. Wonder how much public services and user fees will go up? haveahart Aug 2017 #20
The rat not fooled Aug 2017 #23
Which, sadly, is a majority of Wisconsonites. AJT Aug 2017 #27
Yep... nt lutefisk Aug 2017 #29
I do not understand so many in my beloved Wisconsin. riversedge Aug 2017 #30
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #24
Unless they have a lock with Foxconn on keeping "all" those jobs for atleast 50 years so they make cstanleytech Aug 2017 #25
Thom Hartmann has repeatedly focused on this issue criticizing it in a variety of ways, Akamai Aug 2017 #28

rickford66

(5,524 posts)
1. The technology will have changed well before 25 years.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 08:33 PM
Aug 2017

Then it's turn out the lights and scoot out of town.

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
12. Happened 3 times..........
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 09:49 PM
Aug 2017

in an area near me. Governor and county gave away a huge 10-year package (screwing the local govt. and school district) - and when the "package" was up after 10 years, bye-bye!
But here's what's even crazier - they did it AGAIN 2 more times - same story: screw the locals of tax revenue that would cover costs for all of the increased demand, then off they go!!
These were major corporations, 2 car manufacturers and 1 entertainment equipment manufacturer.

"When will they ever learn,
when will they ever learn?"
.......Pete Seeger

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
3. They want to go after welfare along with the rest of the social safety net, but not
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 08:46 PM
Aug 2017

the real moochers, the non-tax paying huge corporations. The shove the tax burden off on small business and the middle class and tell us the problem is the poor, elderly and the sick/disabled.

Prime example of the money in our politics screwing us over in favor of the rich and powerful. When are we going to unite to stop this problem which is the root cause of most of our other problems? We keep reacting and fighting the symptoms of this corrupt influence. The symptoms are things like climate change, immigration, education, infrastructure, guns,... These things do not get done because the Powers That Be do not want what is in our best interest, only theirs. It has cost us our Representative Democracy as the politicians only represent big Donors, not constituents.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Walker's Legacy drive.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 08:56 PM
Aug 2017

Watch and see,he will run for President in 2020 with his close personal friend Paul Ryan. If one remembers,Boeing floated a similiar deal in Kansas years ago and we know what happened to Kansas.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
7. Race to the bottom.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 09:10 PM
Aug 2017

That is what this is about. Break unions and blame them for killing jobs. Give loads of corporate welfare to attract new business investment to create jobs that often pay less than the old jobs that were lost but accept it because it is better than nothing. Then when workers get uppity again or the company finds another jurisdiction that is offering even more perks they end up leaving anyway.

The bottom line is that we are being told to accept deals that get worse every year because that is what we must do to attract businesses.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. The real player in this nightmare are the Koch's,Walton's,Mercer's and of course
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 09:38 PM
Aug 2017

Walker and Ryan's Business Friends in Wisconsin. Take a look at the Wisconsin GOP,who are the big money people. In that lies every answer to Wisconsin's problems. Either you work part time at Menard's,ABC Building Centers,Ashley Furniture,Heibich Laundry,or at your local Casino. That is the reality of Wisconsin at this time.

Have many family ties to this state,and this is the reality of real life in Wisconsin.

lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
19. Walker will never ever be president
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:37 PM
Aug 2017

mostly because he has the charisma of a dead fish (apologies to fish everywhere...)

Kensan

(180 posts)
6. Tell me...
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 08:57 PM
Aug 2017

Did this analysis include the potential costs of poisoning water supplies? I'm gonna say, nah.

Let me get this straight...the best case scenario is the $3B subsidy will have 25-year ROI. That $3B giveaway is already foolish, but then it's the result of "tremendous" deal-making by Republican leadership. They will tout jobs, jobs, jobs for the next election cycle. Once the election is over and construction is done, the locals will find out it's an automated plant with nowhere near the jobs that were advertised.

Let's just hope this doesn't become a future Superfund site when this company decides it's pulling out of WI.

usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
17. IMO Walker doesn't give a r$ts a$$ if....
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:20 PM
Aug 2017

we the citizens and taxpayer in Wisconsin ever break even. He only want to use this outrageous expenditure of billions to buy himself another governorship.

The republicans have been screaming there is no money for schools, infrastructure repairs, investments in communities to encourage development. No money for anything... but 3 billion to buy re-election.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
26. And, of course to help Ryan get reelected. The plant
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 01:09 AM
Aug 2017

is conveniently going to be in his district.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
18. You should have stayed on the train!
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:30 PM
Aug 2017

Walker is a dumb greedy fuck!

I am sending a note to 1265 Lombardi Ave. Green Bay, Wi.

If we are fortunate to win a Super Bowl, this shareholder wants Walker banned.

The NFL and Green Bay are Union. Walker is not.

Fuck off!

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
23. The rat
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:30 PM
Aug 2017

that we are all smelling is that this deal is designed to win short-term political benefits which the pukes will flog to the maximum extent possible: a second term for dump, snott wanker, and assorted puke politicians.

By the time this deal is outmoded and blows up financially, the bagmen will have escaped with the political benefits a long time ago.

Of course, only dimwitted, easily conned dumbass puke voters would fall for this scam and vote for the pukes pushing this boondoggle.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
25. Unless they have a lock with Foxconn on keeping "all" those jobs for atleast 50 years so they make
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 12:16 AM
Aug 2017

a profit rather than being milked by Foxconn who promptly leave for the next low tax offer the state should tell them thanks but no thanks.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
28. Thom Hartmann has repeatedly focused on this issue criticizing it in a variety of ways,
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 01:50 AM
Aug 2017

including the huge, huge giveaways for the creation of jobs, the environmental impacts, the fast-tracking by Scott Walker, etc.

His guests have also mentioned the nets around the Foxconn factories in China to stop the suicides of workers jumping out of buildings.

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