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(47,487 posts)
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:39 PM Aug 2017

Indiana Highway Gives Black Eye to Private Investment in Infrastructure

Source: WSJ

At a time when Washington is promoting private investment in roads, bridges and other infrastructure, a 21-mile stretch of highway in Indiana provides what critics say is a cautionary tale.

The project, a partnership between the state and private investors, was signed by Vice President Mike Pence in 2014 when he was the state’s governor. It is two years behind schedule and only 60% built. The state is in the process of taking it over and will have to issue debt to finish it.

(snip)

Asked about the failed partnership, vice presidential spokesman Mark Lotter said Mr. Pence “was proud of Indiana’s many accomplishments during his tenure as governor” including investments in infrastructure.

The road’s troubles come as more cash-strapped states explore deals with the private sector as an alternative to finance and fund delayed infrastructure projects. More than 30 states have created rules for such deals to be possible. These arrangements, known as public-private partnerships, are still new to the U.S., where states typically have used bonds to pay for such deals. Some of these projects have saved states time and money. Others have landed in bankruptcy.

The southern Indiana project near Bloomington had a raft of setbacks early on. The state selected a consortium that included a Spanish construction company, Grupo Isolux Corsán S.A., that hadn’t worked on a road project in the U.S. Its $325 million winning bid was nearly $75 million below the next-lowest one. The company quickly ran into unrelated legal difficulties in Europe that hurt its finances.



Read more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/indiana-highway-gives-black-eye-to-private-investment-in-infrastructure-1502271003

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Indiana Highway Gives Black Eye to Private Investment in Infrastructure (Original Post) question everything Aug 2017 OP
It won't let me read it without a subscription radical noodle Aug 2017 #1
Yes, sorry. Here is more question everything Aug 2017 #3
Wonder if political donations to Pence got paid ok? keithbvadu2 Aug 2017 #9
Go to the indystar.com INdemo Aug 2017 #6
Thanks! radical noodle Aug 2017 #11
Can't read (pay wall) - but this is local - and nuts. salin Aug 2017 #2
Go in through the Twitter account for free access. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2017 #5
You are brilliant! Chellee Aug 2017 #13
Thank you. salin Aug 2017 #15
What could possibly go wrong! Lonestarblue Aug 2017 #4
Don't forget the privatization of the Indiana Toll Road disaster up in northern Indiana dbackjon Aug 2017 #7
That was all on Mitch radical noodle Aug 2017 #12
I'm proud of them fuckups. snort Aug 2017 #8
K&R for exposure...of Gov. Pence's hypocrisy. ffr Aug 2017 #10
Mitch Daniels and the Indiana Toll Road mess. mobeau69 Aug 2017 #14
Access the article via this: mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2017 #16
Thanks. Interesting that they allow Twitter users to access it question everything Aug 2017 #17
Bad judgment Mr. VP Pence riversedge Aug 2017 #18
So how is it not fooled Aug 2017 #19

question everything

(47,487 posts)
3. Yes, sorry. Here is more
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 05:00 PM
Aug 2017

The I-69 expansion project was rocky from the beginning. There were permitting and environmental delays, cost overruns and work suspensions because subcontractors had trouble getting paid, according to Stacey Mawson, a senior credit analyst in Fitch Ratings’s Global Infrastructure & Project Finance Group who has been following the I-69 project.

Financial problems arose in part because of “Insolux’s credit-quality deterioration,” she said.

Isolux Corsán, which filed for bankruptcy in July and lost its equity in the partnership last year, didn’t respond to emails and phone calls to its Madrid office seeking comment.

In June, the state said it would assume responsibility for the project. And I-69 Development Partners, now controlled by a company owned by a Canadian pension fund, is negotiating terms of debt with bond holders and the state. Standard & Poor’s Rating Services downgraded the $243 million in debt, saying a “default appears to be inevitable.”

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
9. Wonder if political donations to Pence got paid ok?
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 05:57 PM
Aug 2017

"because subcontractors had trouble getting paid"

Wonder if political donations to Pence got paid ok?

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
11. Thanks!
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 07:26 PM
Aug 2017

I-69 is complete from the Kentucky line to the area where I lived (just south west of Bloomington) and where it was most needed. It's been bogged down at Bloomington for ages. Any idiot should know when a bid is that much lower than the next lowest bid there's a problem.


salin

(48,955 posts)
2. Can't read (pay wall) - but this is local - and nuts.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 04:54 PM
Aug 2017

Not only privatized the work then privatized 2 layers of contracting out/financing (paying contractors) the project. Last year - there was a work stoppage because the payments to the construction companies was in arrears by millions. It has been a mess.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
4. What could possibly go wrong!
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 05:08 PM
Aug 2017

Here's a link to an article in an Indiana paper.

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/06/18/mike-pence-donald-trump-public-private-partnerships-mitch-daniels-interstate-69-isolux-bloomington/388756001/

Texas also had a similar partnership to build a toll road from Austin to San Antonio. The road was built (or at least part of the planned road), but the company decided it was not making enough money and turned it back to the state to maintain at taxpayer expense.

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
14. Mitch Daniels and the Indiana Toll Road mess.
Wed Aug 9, 2017, 08:19 PM
Aug 2017
https://ourfuture.org/20150403/indiana-toll-road-privatizations-highway-to-hell

Besides the financial debacle, the road itself went to hell. They first tried to run the booths without any people. LOL. There are thousands of horror stories that take place at the exits every day thanks to Mitch's and his GOP cronies' brilliant idea. Lines of cars that would make NY and LA look like small potatoes (you only use the "e" in the plural form Danny). It's not uncommon for people, especially those not from the area, to set there for 5 minutes or longer trying their best to figure out the user unfriendly machines. All the while the lines build up even more.

I'll never forget the time I was running late for a medical appointment in Indy and a machine ate my credit card at the South Bend exit. I pressed the help button and the guy on the other end said he would come over there and get me my card back. After waiting 10 minutes or so I rang again and was told he was on his way. I asked "On his way from where?" and was told from a maintenance garage (about 25 miles away)! I had them open the gate remotely and I drove off without my card.

Later that night, when a manager delivered my card to me at my home exit, I asked her what in the hell are you going to do on ND home weekends that are coming up in the fall. The answer: "Oh, we'll have people in all of the booths at the ND exit on game days". What does that tell you?

I'd bet there are rapes and robberies that took place late at night at the now dark and dirty exits that they've covered up. They're now a perfect hunting ground for perverts and other criminals.

I could go on and on with Toll Road privatization horror stories thanks again to Mitch Daniels.

Look for Purdue to go bankrupt in the future.


question everything

(47,487 posts)
17. Thanks. Interesting that they allow Twitter users to access it
Thu Aug 10, 2017, 08:51 PM
Aug 2017

but not through regular channels. At least, with some of them, one can google the title


not fooled

(5,801 posts)
19. So how is it
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 07:58 PM
Aug 2017

that the more the bad outcomes and negative evidence piles up...against privatized public services, assets, schools, etc. etc. etc....the pukes just keep promoting these discredited concepts?

'Cause they're crackpot zealots.

Wake up 'Murica and stop the madness.

Public ownership, administration, and performance of public assets and services.



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