Both sides to blame in Virginia - Trump

[Gravitycollapse]

Source: BBC

US President Donald Trump has criticised both sides for the violent unrest in Charlottesville, Virginia, which left one protester dead and others injured.

There were "things that people don't know", he told reporters.

In a statement on Monday, he had condemned right-wing white supremacists.

He defended the time it took to make the statement, saying he had wanted to establish all the facts.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40943425

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Updated (1:36)

[Lithos]

1. Meh

Trump is once again the speaker of alt-facts for the alt-right.

[Motley13]

2. Did anyone see the protestors with clubs?

LOSER 45 said that several times

[EL34x4]

38. At least one had a baseball bat.

Smashed the rear window of the Challenger after it ran into the crowd.

[Mc Mike]

40. I think shitler said he saw thousands of them, waving clubs, on the television.

[Stuart G]

3. Not a good idea to double down on ..."both sides for violence in Charlottesville"

Quite stupid indeed...Actually stupid beyond all levels of stupidity...At the very bottom level..

[Gravitycollapse]

4. I'm beginning to think this is a careful calculation. He doesn't want to scare his base.

[Stuart G]

7. You may be correct, but this one sentence..about "both sides..

has been refuted by almost everyone else. So clear and such a wrong thing to say again...to prove that it was ..."no mistake" when he said it before..He is so sure he is correct on this.."both sides"...

and obviously he is so.......wrong.....

[NewJeffCT]

13. He needs to placate David Duke

and his ilk after his statement yesterday condemning Neo Nazis.

[regnaD kciN]

27. "Everyone else" is just "fake news"...

Don't you get it? Trump has elevated Dubya's "post-factual society" to the next level. Make up whatever you want to be true, declare it loudly, and a significant percentage of the country will believe it, just because you said it. Don't you remember "Muslims in New Jersey celebrating 9/11"...? The very fact of this president having said it makes it at least debatably true, because many will take him at his word, and the rest of us will be constantly battling to establish the truth of something that is self-evident...and only occasionally succeeding.

[BumRushDaShow]

10. Yup because they already came out and harshly chided him for backing off.

So what does he do? Doubles and triples down! He brought the scum of the earth out from the slime pits in order to get votes, all stoked with the help of Russian interference. He "beat back" the demographics changes that should have sunk him using these vermin.

[Stuart G]

18. They will sink him..sometimes it takes time...

The sinking has begun, almost all of us know it.. He thinks he is helping himself by repeating this lie....

But, he is making the holes in his boat so large, right now, that nothing can save him..Both sides did not cause this violence

Now, some leaders of his own party will come out against him..this statement a second time.. did it.

[BumRushDaShow]

45. Yes and

if he is pushed to get rid of Bannon, that would accelerate what would become an avalanche because all Bannon would need to do is label Drumpf a "RINO" and circulate this pic all over the place -

[NewJeffCT]

9. we're still waiting for

his evidence of Obama wiretapping the White House... his update on Melania's immigration status... his promised testimony under oath to rebut James Comey...

what else?

[VWolf]

12. Tax returns n/t

[NewJeffCT]

14. of course

that was the big one I was forgetting.

[Danmel]

20. Are his investigators still in Hawaii???

Inquiring minds want to know!

[NewJeffCT]

36. That's right

they were uncovering huge things, if I recall.

Maybe they did, but Trump refused to pay them and now they're sitting on it?

[Blue_Tires]

16. "both sides"?

Link to tweet

[turbinetree]

5. Is it just me or has anyone heard from Eddie Munster and the turtle on this ass**** and what

happened in Virginia?

They really are giving this cretin a pass.....................

[regnaD kciN]

29. (crickets)

...which tells you all you need to know about the party which holds total control in this country.

[PSPS]

34. No, but their campaigns are also awash in russian money.

[BigmanPigman]

47. I thought Ryan said something against his initial remarks.

[BumRushDaShow]

6. He keeps shooting himself in the foot

WaPo breaking -

Trump doubles down on initial Charlottesville response, saying ‘there is blame on both sides’ for violence

President Trump on Tuesday said that counterprotesters at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville over the weekend acted violently and should share the blame for the mayhem that left a woman dead and many others injured. The president also defended those protesting the removal of a Robert E. Lee statue.

In a testy exchange with reporters at Trump Tower, the president called the events on Saturday a "horrible thing to watch," but he emphasized that both sides of the clashes contributed to the violence.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/15/trump-doubles-down-on-initial-charlottesville-response-saying-there-is-blame-on-both-sides-for-violence/

He was supposed to be making a "statement" or whatever on his infrastructure plans and here we are again.

When he's attacked and forced to do something, he seethes, and then makes matters worse. He is entirely predictable and will NEVER EVER change.

[Botany]

8. There were "things that people don't know", he (Trump) told reporters.

Trump is trying "to make things all right" with his skinhead cracker ass fans
after being forced to say Nazis are bad yesterday.

[laserhaas]

26. Exactly!

[Blue_Tires]

11. Well, did anyone expect him to say anything else?

[marylandblue]

15. I sort of expected him to move on to another issue

He already sounded the dog whistle, he doesn't need to use an air raid siren.

[Blue_Tires]

22. Please... Next week he'll be "Both sides"-ing the Holocaust

[Doug the Dem]

17. Donnie, Go Fuck Yourself

Let Putin sit one out, for a change.

[laserhaas]

43. Ha Ha...

Lije tge way you think...Doug

[Thor_MN]

19. "things that people don't know"?

Like the phrase "prime the pump"? or that healthcare is hard?

"People" in this case is Trump's own stupid ass. He is a moron and shouldn't be in charge of greeting people at a WalMart, much less any government entity.

[regnaD kciN]

33. A favorite tool of the racist right...

Remember the Rodney King beating? Caught it all out there on videotape. No question about what happened, but the officers initially walked, because "there must be more than what we saw on the tape."

It's the easiest thing in the world for an authority figure to tell you to accept their word, because they know more than you. Most of the time, it succeeds, because listeners are willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Will that happen this time? Don't know, but Trump has put us in a difficult situation, because we now have to prove there was no violence, period, from "the other side." That's proving a negative, which is basically impossible, whereas all it takes is a single image of one antifa protestor with a baseball bat, or punching a Nazi, to "prove" Trump's point, and lead us full on into false moral equivalency, where one leftist with a primitive armament balances out five hundred Nazis with assault rifles.

[truthisfreedom]

21. He always has some mysterious source that only Presidents get to hear from.

Some super double-secret source of information that's gathered just for his ears only.

Bullshit.

[regnaD kciN]

37. The problem is...

...most presidents do have such sources, and know more than us. And most people realize and accept this, in the average case.

It's just that this particular president uses that rationale to make up whatever he wants. I'm not sure we've reached the point where enough of a "critical mass" of voters recognizes that.

[jmowreader]

23. "Establish all the facts"? Let me guess...

He and his staff needed all weekend to go through James Alex Fields' Facebook page, Instagram feed, Twitter feed and other social media sites to scrub his online presence of any signs of support for Donald Trump. They were probably ready to add a few photoshopped pictures of Fields in Hillary or Obama gear, but that would be too obvious.

[laserhaas]

24. Yup..Butthole Heather Heyer is at fault, for being

Rammed by a Dodge

[regnaD kciN]

39. I'm almost ready to hear Trump describe her...

...as "definitely not a '10', let me tell you that."

[dalton99a]

25. Vile, demented, worthless piece of trash

[gademocrat7]

28. Chump is a lying evil man baby.

His Nazis were armed to the hilt. Our protesters had signs.

[jpak]

30. Fuck his nazi ass

yup

[LudwigPastorius]

31. Can't wait till Mueller unveils your traitorous, criminal dealings with Russia, Donny.

Colluding with an enemy nation to subvert our democratic process, and now apologizing for Nazis.

Trump, you are anti-American filth.

[bucolic_frolic]

32. Put the blame where its due

on Trump!

[keithbvadu2]

35. Blame the victims

[sandensea]

41. Karl Rove 101: when your side has no defense, resort to false equivalence.

Make an example up if you have to.

[adigal]

42. I thought Saturday was his Katrina moment

But he doubled down today.

I bet his approval is 28% by the end of the week.

[muriel_volestrangler]

44. "on Tuesday the president poured on a bucket of kerosene and danced around the flames"

That's pretty strong commentary from the BBC, which normally tried to be moderate.

"He asked whether statues of former presidents George Washington and Thomas Jefferson should also be torn down, because they had been slave-owners."

They didn't wage war on the country you nominally led, you bigoted, fascistic, corrupt moron.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

46. Doubling down on stupid

Doesn't want to offend his racist base.

Got it Trump. If it weren't for the counter-protestors being there the guy wouldn't have run them over with his car. Therefore both sides are to blame.

[Johnny2X2X]

48. "Good people marching with Nazis treated unfairly by press!"

He literally said this. That those matching with the KKK, White Supremacists, and Nazis were good people who have been treated unfairly.

Remove him now!!!!

[FiveGoodMen]

49. We've been letting Rush and Fox, etc. get away with this kind of shit for decades

Why be surprised now?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

50. Both sides violent, but only one side used deadly force in 2 incidents & only one carried semi-auto

There is no equivalency.

Both sides were violent, but only one side used deadly force in two separate incidents:

1) Killing Heather Heyer.

2) Nearly killing Deandre Harris.

That same side showed up with "militia" with many assault rifles.