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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:33 PM Aug 2012

GOP prepares to file lawsuit against Holder

Source: NBC News

House Republicans will file suit in an effort to compel Holder to release documents associated with the failed "Fast and Furious" gun-walking operation.

"We'll be filing a civil case during the break," Issa told NBC, "We will expect a day in court before a federal judge, which we have a 100 percent chance that the judge will hold that these documents should be delivered."

During negotiations between House Republicans and Holder in June, the White House invoked executive privilege on the documents Issa had requested for his investigation. Issa says that a federal judge should find that executive privilege does not apply to the documents he is requesting.

"The idea that you would withhold based on some executive privilege the documents related to a cover up of a crime is absurd, but that's the claim that the attorney general is hiding behind," Issa said.

Read more: http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/03/13105010-gop-prepares-to-file-lawsuit-against-holder?lite

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GOP prepares to file lawsuit against Holder (Original Post) IDemo Aug 2012 OP
Good luck asswipes montanacowboy Aug 2012 #1
Not in their nature to quit witch hunting Marymarg Aug 2012 #19
being black without a permit? rurallib Aug 2012 #2
Oh good, more legislative comedy. bemildred Aug 2012 #3
Even though their own report found no evidence railsback Aug 2012 #4
It's easier than doing real work like creating jobs. alfredo Aug 2012 #7
It's an Issa fishing expedition. The GOP certainly can't focus on it's pitiful voting record. Raster Aug 2012 #42
Sounds kind of like the harassment suits filed by "sovereign citizens" nt Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2012 #5
Issa: vexatious litigant KamaAina Aug 2012 #6
I wish the GOP cared about the thousands of senseless war dead Skittles Aug 2012 #8
Oh, so we have all the JOBS we need in America now?? NO? Get back to work assholes! n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #9
100% chance that Issa shows the world what a gigantic ass he is .... MindMover Aug 2012 #10
For what? LynneSin Aug 2012 #11
What do these people actually DO? MrMickeysMom Aug 2012 #12
Since all the world's problems have been solved, they have nothing else to do (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #17
They are now going to take a five week vacation Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #37
uh......JOBS? SoapBox Aug 2012 #13
Ah....the "If you've got nothing to hide" argument. BadgerKid Aug 2012 #14
wait a second loyalkydem Aug 2012 #15
Some say The Wizard Aug 2012 #16
Further distraction, further distraction, further distraction.... Raster Aug 2012 #18
The Three Ring Circus Dog and Pony Show Jessy169 Aug 2012 #20
"Cut the Deficit!" "Slash Social Security!" "End Food Stamps!"..wait, sue the DOJ w/taypayer $$$$ MichiganVote Aug 2012 #21
Sorry, but Darrell Issa is more entertaining than Romney siligut Aug 2012 #22
Waste of time. Panasonic Aug 2012 #23
Nothing else to do 'during the break,' I guess. elleng Aug 2012 #24
I believe a statue already commemorates this event: sofa king Aug 2012 #25
This is NOT a waste of time! helton Aug 2012 #26
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #32
"Hey Asshole"? helton Aug 2012 #33
Is this how you discuss matters with those you disagree with? Jessy169 Aug 2012 #34
^^^THIS^^^ HangOnKids Aug 2012 #35
Believe what you wish... helton Aug 2012 #40
You lost us at Watergate. Raster Aug 2012 #36
This started under bush Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #38
Are you saying ... bayareaboy Aug 2012 #43
I've said it before Iwillnevergiveup Aug 2012 #27
"We have a 100 percent chance that the judge will hold that these documents should be delivered" Blue Idaho Aug 2012 #28
Don't you just loyalkydem Aug 2012 #29
Don't they know that compliance with a congressional subpoena is voluntary when Blue Meany Aug 2012 #30
good Enrique Aug 2012 #31
Talk about your frivilous lawsuits!!!!!! benld74 Aug 2012 #39
lolololololol Solly Mack Aug 2012 #41
 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
4. Even though their own report found no evidence
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:46 PM
Aug 2012

they're going to keep looking, hoping to find something to make their false accusations true. Our tax dollars at work.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
42. It's an Issa fishing expedition. The GOP certainly can't focus on it's pitiful voting record.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:55 PM
Aug 2012

And the presumptive GOP Presidential Nominee is, in a word, a joke.

What is shameful is the lengths the GOP will go to try and destroy the Presidency of Barrack Obama, which amounts to an attempt at 21st century lynching.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
6. Issa: vexatious litigant
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:49 PM
Aug 2012

i.e. someone who keeps filing frivolous lawsuits with no basis in fact or law.

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
8. I wish the GOP cared about the thousands of senseless war dead
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:52 PM
Aug 2012

as much as they "care" about the death of one man

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
12. What do these people actually DO?
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:01 PM
Aug 2012

No, I didn't really mean to ask you, DU.

It's obvious, they do NOTHING.

BadgerKid

(4,554 posts)
14. Ah....the "If you've got nothing to hide" argument.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:19 PM
Aug 2012

The debate between what an entity is or isn't entitled to do/have/know pervades civilization. The margins on the web page are too small to contain further discourse.

loyalkydem

(1,678 posts)
15. wait a second
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:19 PM
Aug 2012

Didn't their own report clear Holder and the Obama of any wrong doing? Did I miss something?

The Wizard

(12,547 posts)
16. Some say
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:25 PM
Aug 2012

Darrel Issa is Orally Taitz in a cheap disguise. What is Issa hiding? The American people have the right to know if a member of Congress is really an alien agent.
Have Darrell Issa and Orally Taitz ever been seen in public together?

Raster

(20,998 posts)
18. Further distraction, further distraction, further distraction....
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:27 PM
Aug 2012

...don't look at Rmoney's taxes... don't look at Rmoney's European adventure... don't look at the national collateral economic damage from trying to lynch President Obama... further distraction, further distraction, further distraction.

Jezus Kee-rist, Issa... go steal a car or burn down a building or something semi-constructive.

Jessy169

(602 posts)
20. The Three Ring Circus Dog and Pony Show
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:32 PM
Aug 2012

is still in town, with Issa as ringmaster, Boehner as the crying clown and Cantor as the human cannonball. The audience of racist, rabid, homophobic morons are glued to their seats in morbid fascination of the terrifying and truth-defying antics this spectacle promises.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
21. "Cut the Deficit!" "Slash Social Security!" "End Food Stamps!"..wait, sue the DOJ w/taypayer $$$$
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:40 PM
Aug 2012

Assholes

siligut

(12,272 posts)
22. Sorry, but Darrell Issa is more entertaining than Romney
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:54 PM
Aug 2012

Much more, Romney is just like watching rotting produce, but Issa, he is a party. I am sure Holder doesn't enjoy his crap though. Issa needs a talk show or something, seriously, I'd watch and I can't stand that sort of thing. If I thought for a second he could hurt Obama and/or Holder, I know I wouldn't feel this way.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
25. I believe a statue already commemorates this event:
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:23 PM
Aug 2012


"Don't make me tell you about how half a dozen Bush stay-behinds ran their own operation without the knowledge of their superiors."

helton

(4 posts)
26. This is NOT a waste of time!
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:30 PM
Aug 2012

To those repliers who snidely say "It's a waste of time" and call Issa an asswipe for filing the case, I dare you to say that to the family of murdered Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, who was killed by one of these guns after the whole scheme went awry.

It sounds like you think that Fast and Furious is no big deal. Maybe it would be if one of your family members was the one who was killed.

I work for Homeland Security, and Agent Perry was my fellow law enforcement officer. His death hurts - a lot. The shameful part is that the next time one of us gets killed defending our country, including those of you who think it's no big deal, it could be me, or any of my fellow officers.

You seem to forget that Agent Perry died in this case because of the incompetence of the Obama Justice Department. THAT's why it's so important to get to the bottom of this. Please remember that Watergate started out as nothing, too.

I'm not saying that Fast and Furious is another Watergate. I'm just saying that we won't know for sure until the Justice Dept stops stonewalling the request for legitimate documents.

To those of you who pooh poohed Issa's demands, all I can say is to have some respect for a man who died protecting all of us. He deserves nothing less.

Response to helton (Reply #26)

helton

(4 posts)
33. "Hey Asshole"?
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 06:13 PM
Aug 2012

Asshole? Very impressive of you. Is this how you discuss matters with those you disagree with?

Let me state that I most certainly do work for Homeland Security, starting in 1989 with U.S. Customs, now known as Customs and Border Protection. I've served under Democrats and Republicans. I worked at 6 WTC for 12 years, and was there during the bombing in 1993, as well as on 9/11. I've worn wiretaps and risked my life to collect evidence against those who would hurt our country and our citizens, regardless of their political leanings. So, I do take offense against those who would demean the death of one of my own. My job is to protect all Americans, not just Democrats or Republicans.

Whether or not there are too many guns in Arizona may be a legitimate question, but it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. That issue is the fact that Agent Perry wasn't killed by ANY one gun. He WAS murdered by a gun that the Justice Dept sold to Mexico and subsequently lost track of. The problem is that Mr. Holder has told different stories about what happened during F&F, and that has created doubt in my agency about the Attorney General's ability to lead the Justice Dept.

I hope that you can understand the difference between these 2 issues. And whether you like it or not, this IS what happened, and the morale at DHS has suffered because of it. That's not good for America.

You want to call me a troll? Go right ahead. I may not agree with your point of view, but I'm always interested in other opinions, even if they are different from my own. I do enjoy reading the DU, even if I rarely comment.

However, this subject is something that hits much too close to home, and for you to show such ignorance (I'll assume that do not work in law enforcement) and callousness towards his death is shameful. Perry's wife is now a widow for the worst of all reasons, and I pray that MY wife does not end up a widow for those same reasons.

You want to disagree with me and call me names? That's your right. But, you will NOT besmirch the name of my fellow officer. THAT is uncalled for, and totally disrepectful towards his fellow officers, including me, and especially his family.

You owe Agent Perry's family an apology.


Jessy169

(602 posts)
34. Is this how you discuss matters with those you disagree with?
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 06:52 PM
Aug 2012

No, just with assholes. I don't believe you for one second that you work for Homeland Security. Your lies and bullshit stories are a cut-and-paste of the totally fabricated Republican "story", and the same BS that all the whackos are posting over on Yahoo. If you actually work for Homeland Security, you wouldn't be here posting your garbage now, would you. I do disagree with the Republican-sponsored and false point of view. I am not callous toward Perry's death -- but the Republican politicians trying to score political points off of Perry's death most definitely ARE callous toward Perry's death. Gotta hand it to you, you're a cut above most right-wing whackos in your writing and spelling ability, pretty decent grammar too, but otherwise you're just the same absurd pack of lies and misinformation. I'm guessing there is a decent chance that you work directly under Karl Rove's watchful eye.

helton

(4 posts)
40. Believe what you wish...
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 09:56 PM
Aug 2012

Jessy and the others,

You can choose not to believe me, and I don't know how to prove to you that I am, but I truly am a federal worker, who is lucky enough to be covered under the old CSRS retirement plan.

Just because I "actually work for Homeland Security", why wouldn't I post my opinion? That statement makes absolutely no sense. I do have some rights left as a citizen who is a federal employee, don't I.

I am personally not very interested in Republican or Democratic politics concerning F&F, although I have my own opinions about politics. I accept that politics (Dem and Rep) have always been part of my job, and will continue to do so. Let's face it - both sides do it, but we're not politicians, just regular folks.

I agree that all politicians try to score political points an every situation that they can. If you want to call Republicans callous for trying to score points, go right ahead. But your comments about Perry's death were just as callous, and that's troubling because I assume you're not a politician, just a regular guy like me. Politicians make a living being callous at times. I expect more from average people like you. We're not running for re-election.

My main interest is that one of my brothers died needlessly. And it could happen to someone else - or me - again. That's scary since this truly is a matter of life and death, and there needs to be accountability for Perry's death, and there has been none as of now. And since this happened under Holder's watch, he needs to be transparent (I really hate that word. What happened to honest?) about what really happened.

I'm not used to personal insults when trying to discuss this issue. Is that really necessary? I've been on other websites where we agreed to disagree without being called an asshole. Feel free to call me that, but that doesn't change the fact that my main point about Perry's death is true, regardless of your irrelevant rebuttal about Arizona guns.

I do thank you for the backhanded compliment about my grammar. That's my Brooklyn, NY public school education.



Raster

(20,998 posts)
36. You lost us at Watergate.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 07:31 PM
Aug 2012

And I too do not believe the Homeland Security ruse. Sorry.

And yes, this is an Issa fishing expedition.

Welcome to Du! Enjoy your stay.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
43. Are you saying ...
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:56 PM
Aug 2012

Congress Punk Issa is no longer alive.

I guess being an asswipe finally got to him.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
27. I've said it before
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:31 PM
Aug 2012

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Blue Idaho

(5,057 posts)
28. "We have a 100 percent chance that the judge will hold that these documents should be delivered"
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:37 PM
Aug 2012

So which corrupt judge has promised to do Issa's dirty work?

loyalkydem

(1,678 posts)
29. Don't you just
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:45 PM
Aug 2012

love trolls. ROFLAMO. Mocking the troll, "Don't you people know the truth behind the fast and the furious," we do, DO YOU?

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
30. Don't they know that compliance with a congressional subpoena is voluntary when
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:50 PM
Aug 2012

you are part of the executive branch? They changed the rules during the Bush Administration and now it seems as though their political dementia is setting in.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
31. good
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:56 PM
Aug 2012

this GOP Congress has zero credibility, so all your claims, and your contempt finding against Holder, are meaningless. Let's see what a judge says.

Solly Mack

(90,780 posts)
41. lolololololol
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 09:59 PM
Aug 2012

"The idea that you would withhold based on some executive privilege the documents related to a cover up of a crime is absurd, but that's the claim that the attorney general is hiding behind," Issa said."

Issa is a joke.

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