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Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:53 PM Aug 2017

As Harvey's waters rise, so do panic levels, rescuer says

Source: CNN


(CNN) — As Harvey continues dumping rain on East Texas and the waters there continue to rise, people are starting to panic, rushing rescue boats and even shooting at them if they don't stop, said one volunteer rescuer.

Clyde Cain, of the Cajun Navy, a Louisiana-based rescue force that gained fame during Hurricane Katrina, said in one instance, a boat broke down, and while the crew sought shelter in a delivery truck, people tried to steal the inoperable boat.

"They're making it difficult for us to rescue them," he said. "You have people rushing the boat. Everyone wants to get in at the same time. They're panicking. Water is rising."

Because of the hostile responses, the Cajun Navy has been forced to halt some rescue attempts, Cain said.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/28/us/harvey-houston-texas-louisiana/index.html



Horrific.
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As Harvey's waters rise, so do panic levels, rescuer says (Original Post) Stuart G Aug 2017 OP
Ineffably sad. annabanana Aug 2017 #1
3 days. yallerdawg Aug 2017 #2
Perhaps..just perhaps...the army & navy . needs to be sent in to restore order.. Stuart G Aug 2017 #4
That's one thin veneer. AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #8
He & Melania are going tomorrow, I think. The Prez doesn't mix with the little, dirty people. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #12
He had better have his pilot fly high as well as BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #13
The ones with guns love him. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #14
Been through some strong hurricanes in Florida where literally every traffic signal in the county ToxMarz Aug 2017 #16
I've also heard " We are about 3 missed meals away" dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #19
Well, I'd really like for him to go -- keep his word, you know. ATL Ebony Aug 2017 #27
In NoLa after Katrina, false rumors were spread by the MSM that AA survivors were shooting jpak Aug 2017 #3
What's AA? Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #10
African-American dbackjon Aug 2017 #18
true, but this is east Texas...... virtualobserver Aug 2017 #20
Houston has a huge minority population. The city itself votes Democratic. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #23
The snippet of the article said "east texas" Houston is not normally referred to as East Texas.... virtualobserver Aug 2017 #25
Welcome to the future. jalan48 Aug 2017 #5
I think panic is THE worst human emotion RandomAccess Aug 2017 #6
Oh but BLOTUS says things are going great! PearliePoo2 Aug 2017 #7
Yes. you are correct....Horrible Stuart G Aug 2017 #11
Last I heard only 5 deaths were reported.... dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #21
OMG. Like a lifeboat passing by people in the water from a sinking ship. Dangerous. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #9
Maybe Trump will give them all a hat. broadcaster90210 Aug 2017 #15
This is NOW in the 4th largest city in America. yallerdawg Aug 2017 #17
Hour and a half later - more waiting. yallerdawg Aug 2017 #22
Kudos to the responders flamingdem Aug 2017 #24
On the other hand Not Ruth Aug 2017 #26

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
2. 3 days.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:57 PM
Aug 2017

When civilization breaks down, and we lose food, clothing, shelter - and hope - we are 3 days from anarchy and lawlessness.

Trump damn sure better stay away from Houston.

Tomorrow will be 4 days.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
4. Perhaps..just perhaps...the army & navy . needs to be sent in to restore order..
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:02 PM
Aug 2017

Whatever needs to be done...anarchy is the absolute worst.

Beyond the national guard.....when anarchy exists everyone loses..(except the shooters, and often they lose too)

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
8. That's one thin veneer.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:46 PM
Aug 2017

Still. The media thrives on the bad. It bleeds it leads, etc.

Remember how the media exaggerated the FUCK out of human behavior at Katrina.

Send what you can to help, trust in our basic nature. Humans aren't all bad. Not even half bad.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. He & Melania are going tomorrow, I think. The Prez doesn't mix with the little, dirty people.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:05 PM
Aug 2017

They go in style, far above the fray, with Secret Service.

They'll probably meet in secret with some officials in a building for a photo op and some speeches. Then they'll do a fly-over maybe.

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
13. He had better have his pilot fly high as well as
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:08 PM
Aug 2017

wear an XXL bullet proof vest. It seems like a lot of Texans have NRA stickers on their trucks.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
16. Been through some strong hurricanes in Florida where literally every traffic signal in the county
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:15 PM
Aug 2017

Was blown down. The first day is very cool, everyone stops at every intersection, waits their turn, waves. Kind of restores your faith in humanity. By the third day its every one for themself, accidents everywhere, cursing, flipping the finger, fights. Total chaos.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
19. I've also heard " We are about 3 missed meals away"
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:31 PM
Aug 2017

Trump has helped really thin the veneer of civilized behavior.

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
27. Well, I'd really like for him to go -- keep his word, you know.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 12:20 AM
Aug 2017

Maybe he'd be able to come up with a better plan to deal with this disaster and see upfront (close and personal) how climate change is effecting

jpak

(41,758 posts)
3. In NoLa after Katrina, false rumors were spread by the MSM that AA survivors were shooting
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:01 PM
Aug 2017

at rescue helicopters.

It was completely false.

But the stories of NoLA PD gunning down AA survivors crossing bridges to escape NoLa were real.

I don't doubt that people are in panic mode.

Guns just make it worse.


 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
20. true, but this is east Texas......
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:34 PM
Aug 2017

home of dragging deaths......

I wouldn't want to go there under the best of circumstances.

My wife and I were driving through east Texas a few years ago and stopped at a restaurant.

A local "judge" was there eating with some fawning minions....I overheard his "conversation" about the way he operated as a judge.

The way that he spoke about minorities was no different than Arpaio .

When those people panic, I can see them behaving badly.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
23. Houston has a huge minority population. The city itself votes Democratic.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 09:12 PM
Aug 2017

It's not like "east Texas," which is Beaumont and going north (Jasper, etc.). Jasper is where they dragged that poor black man to death, beheading him.

Houston has a lot of bubbas, no doubt about it. But it has a large Hispanic and Af American population. Big cities - minorities gravitate to them for the job opportunities. But the burbs there can be mainly white, while some are mainly Hispanic, etc.

Beaumont, surprisingly, has a very large Af. American population, yet it is very discriminatory, is my understanding. The KKK is alive & well in the Beaumont area, is what I've heard.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
25. The snippet of the article said "east texas" Houston is not normally referred to as East Texas....
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 09:54 PM
Aug 2017

....so that is why I jumped to that response.

It was based on my experience in actual "East Texas"

I grew up in the Houston area....there were plenty of racists there as well,
but the people that I saw in east texas were scarier.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
7. Oh but BLOTUS says things are going great!
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:13 PM
Aug 2017

When the water eventually recedes, it's going to be gruesome what's revealed. Horrible.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
21. Last I heard only 5 deaths were reported....
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:40 PM
Aug 2017

sad to say, that is an impossibly low number.
Worse yet, many homeless and undocumented people may be unidentifiable by the time the water goes down enough.

also sad....gonna be a lot of livestock piled up along fence lines.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
17. This is NOW in the 4th largest city in America.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:16 PM
Aug 2017

Panic? You betcha. Day 3 is ending and another night is coming.

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
24. Kudos to the responders
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 09:16 PM
Aug 2017

I hope that this story about shooting isn't being repeated as an act or as a rumor, whichever it truly is.

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