Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:32 AM Oct 2017

Collapse at North Korea nuclear test site 'leaves 200 dead'

Source: The Telegraph (UK)

As many as 200 North Korean labourers have been killed after a mine shaft being dug at the regime's nuclear test site collapsed, according to Japan's Asahi TV.

Sources in North Korea told the news channel that a tunnel being excavated by around 100 workers at the Punggye-ri test site collapsed earlier this month.

An additional 100 labourers sent to rescue their colleagues were reportedly killed when the tunnel suffered a second collapse.

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/31/collapse-north-korea-nuclear-test-site-leaves-200-dead/amp/

31 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Collapse at North Korea nuclear test site 'leaves 200 dead' (Original Post) Cartoonist Oct 2017 OP
China already warned NK of a major catastrophe if further nuclear tests are conducted in that region Rollo Oct 2017 #1
my God, they dig tunnels by hand like the 17/1800s Sunlei Oct 2017 #2
Not quite like the 17/1800s jmowreader Oct 2017 #27
I feel badly for the victims...too bad it didn't nail BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #3
So...why are they putting a mineshaft in at a nuclear test site? PatrickforO Oct 2017 #4
Likely digging another tunnel DetroitLegalBeagle Oct 2017 #7
A lot of military activity in NK happens deep underground IronLionZion Oct 2017 #10
Living Hell is the norm for pretty much everyone there. Codeine Oct 2017 #13
The tunnels sarisataka Oct 2017 #17
Wonder if we did that Not Ruth Oct 2017 #5
Uh..what? nt LexVegas Oct 2017 #15
Sabotage Not Ruth Oct 2017 #16
What specifically leads you to that observation? LanternWaste Oct 2017 #26
Maybe this is why the maniacal fuck said the next test will be over the Pacific Ocean. PearliePoo2 Oct 2017 #6
I wonder if Dump will try to take credit for this Dopers_Greed Oct 2017 #8
Fuck kim jong un. I wish the people could get rid of him JI7 Oct 2017 #9
I assume that these 200 are the first victims of Kim Jong-un's new weapon of mass destruction. Towlie Oct 2017 #11
These poor people are slaves. DK504 Oct 2017 #12
The fear is that the whole mountain will collapse and a plume of readioactive dust will spread Nitram Oct 2017 #14
another reason for no pre-emptive strike bluestarone Oct 2017 #18
Nuclear tests take place in remote areas, away from all other infrastructure Calista241 Oct 2017 #19
this i understand BUT bluestarone Oct 2017 #20
Actually, Calista, hitting the site with a nuclear weapon would spread an enormous radioactive Nitram Oct 2017 #25
My assumption was that we were talking about a preemptive conventional Calista241 Oct 2017 #28
A very reasonable assumption. Nitram Nov 2017 #30
China was concerned enough last week to give NK a stern warning... Rollo Nov 2017 #31
Apparently this is under some question as it hasn't been confirmed by another source. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #21
The Telegraph is pretty reliable.. I read it elswhere too... Pauldg47 Oct 2017 #22
Every article, including the Telegraph, is citing the original Asahi report. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #23
I think I understand...thanx. Pauldg47 Oct 2017 #24
"Sources in North Korea told the news channel" mitch96 Oct 2017 #29

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
1. China already warned NK of a major catastrophe if further nuclear tests are conducted in that region
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:36 AM
Oct 2017

China will not be amused if NK keeps this up... because the major collapse China predicts will blanket part of China with radioactive fallout...

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
27. Not quite like the 17/1800s
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:30 PM
Oct 2017

North Korea has a LOT of granite under it. They blast out a piece of rock, then send in crews with shovels and carts to remove the rubble. North Korea is also on the Amurian tectonic plate, so it's seismically active. It appears they found a fault line and dug a tunnel right on top of it.

The thing North Korea does best is tunneling; they do a lot of it and almost always very safely. This incident surprises the hell out of me, and I wouldn't be shocked to see the engineers who sited this tunnel be executed by machine gun within the next few weeks.

PatrickforO

(14,577 posts)
4. So...why are they putting a mineshaft in at a nuclear test site?
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:41 AM
Oct 2017

Can you imagine the living hell that must be those workers' lives, even when the tunnels aren't collapsing? Is this some kind of punishment for dissidents? Go to the radiated mines?

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
10. A lot of military activity in NK happens deep underground
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:22 AM
Oct 2017

over 60 years of preparation for the day America finally carpet bombs them again. They are more prepared for war with us than most anyone.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
13. Living Hell is the norm for pretty much everyone there.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 11:01 AM
Oct 2017

I'd find it difficult to bring a child into that world.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
26. What specifically leads you to that observation?
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:09 PM
Oct 2017

What specifically leads you to that observation?

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
6. Maybe this is why the maniacal fuck said the next test will be over the Pacific Ocean.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:09 AM
Oct 2017

And just where over the Pacific will that be exactly? Near Guam? Japan? Hawaii? The West Coast?

Not good. Don't do it pal.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
12. These poor people are slaves.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:47 AM
Oct 2017

They aren't fed enough to stage a rebellion, they are bone thin, except Kim Jung Crazy.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
14. The fear is that the whole mountain will collapse and a plume of readioactive dust will spread
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 11:16 AM
Oct 2017

across the region.

bluestarone

(16,976 posts)
18. another reason for no pre-emptive strike
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 12:23 PM
Oct 2017

We would poison the whole region with the radiation that's being contained there now ( i know kim doesn't give a shit BUT we should)

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
19. Nuclear tests take place in remote areas, away from all other infrastructure
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 12:41 PM
Oct 2017

Destroying a test site will accomplish less than nothing, except making a big mess.

The reactor itself, manufacturing facilities, and assembly areas, as well as any missile maintenance, production, and infrastructure would be the priority targets for a preemptive strike.

bluestarone

(16,976 posts)
20. this i understand BUT
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 01:12 PM
Oct 2017

lot's of radiation just waiting to be released where the tests were done and THIS AREA will not be un-desturbed? i disagree with your thoughts just saying

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
25. Actually, Calista, hitting the site with a nuclear weapon would spread an enormous radioactive
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:03 PM
Oct 2017

dust throughout the region. Tests are performed underground to keep radioactive material out of the atmosphere. A nuclear blast would spread it far and wide. I suppose we could wait for a strong wind blowing towards China before launching such a strike...

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
28. My assumption was that we were talking about a preemptive conventional
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:13 PM
Oct 2017

Assault on NK’s nuclear infrastructure.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
30. A very reasonable assumption.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 09:55 AM
Nov 2017

I guess I was just imagining the havoc that a strike on the mountain where testing takes place would cause in the region.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
31. China was concerned enough last week to give NK a stern warning...
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 06:33 PM
Nov 2017

...that further nuclear tests would cause a total collapse. The chinese are worried because the test mountain site is close to the China-NK border, and China likely would get some of the radioactive plume in the even of a catastrophic failure.

But it looks like the NK's are intending to keep up the nuclear testing there, hence the new tunnel.

There's speculation also that if things get further out of hand in NK, China may invade and stage a coup d'etat.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,357 posts)
23. Every article, including the Telegraph, is citing the original Asahi report.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:18 PM
Oct 2017

So, sure, the Telegraph is accurate in reporting that Asahi reported that people died. But they didn't confirm anything independently.

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
29. "Sources in North Korea told the news channel"
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:32 PM
Oct 2017

If NK is so tight how did the news get out??? I'm curious about the validity of the number of people killed or if it even happened....
Maybe some reporter want's to be "big man on campus"....
m

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Collapse at North Korea n...