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muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 03:53 PM Oct 2017

New York attack: At least six killed by man driving truck

Last edited Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:56 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: BBC

At least six people have been killed in New York after the driver of a truck mowed down people on a pedestrian and cycle path in Lower Manhattan.

A man who emerged from the vehicle brandishing imitation guns was shot and arrested by police officers.
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New York City's mayor and governor are at the scene. US media are calling the incident a terror attack.

One eyewitness, identified as "Eugene," told ABC Channel 7 that he saw a white pick-up truck driving fast down the cycle path alongside the West Side Highway, near Stuyvesant High School, at full speed and hitting a number of people.


Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41825577



ABC: At least 2 dead, others injured after being hit by vehicle in New York City

At least two people have been struck and killed and several others injured in lower Manhattan in New York City.

The sprawling crime scene runs several blocks along the West Side Highway.

A suspect, who may have been shot by police, is in custody. The New York City Police Department said no others are outstanding.

A truck hit multiple people on the bike path on the West Side Highway, a witness told ABC's New York station WABC. The truck crashed into a school bus at Chambers and West streets, near Stuyvesant High School, and the driver got out and opened fire, the witness added.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/york-city-officers-responding-reports-shots-fired-lower/story?id50842052

CBS says the police are calling it 'apparent road rage' http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/10/31/multiple-injuries-reported-in-incident-in-tribeca/

NBC news now saying on air 6 dead, 15 injured: https://www.nbcnews.com/video/multiple-people-injured-in-downtown-nyc-1085509187700

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updated after casualties announced. Did read:

Man held after shooting incident in New York

"A suspect has been arrested in New York after people were reportedly shot and mown down by the driver of a car.

Multiple reports on social media suggested a man had driven at cyclists, possibly in a cycling line, before opening fire in the Lower Manhattan area.

Police said they had made one arrest after responding to "reports of shots fired"."
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New York attack: At least six killed by man driving truck (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 OP
IS HE BROWN???? RhodeIslandOne Oct 2017 #1
MSNBC has video of the driver, he looks white spotthebird Oct 2017 #8
The suspect supposedly yelled something about "Allah" when he exited spotthebird Oct 2017 #11
Get it right angrychair Oct 2017 #40
MSNBC ribbon: Multiple people dead, injured. ananda Oct 2017 #2
Cars too. EllieBC Oct 2017 #3
Conflicting reports. Possible the shots were from police, at the suspect. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #9
Car did the damage NewDem17 Oct 2017 #12
Do you also sarisataka Oct 2017 #14
I cant speak for the person you are talking to but no, I only hate guns. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #28
Now is not the time to discuss gun control ... aggiesal Oct 2017 #42
I bike on that route about once a month... brooklynite Oct 2017 #4
Thank goodness you weren't there today. hamsterjill Oct 2017 #17
I normally do it after a meeting in Midtown...would have considered it tomorrow. brooklynite Oct 2017 #23
Just glad you are safe. hamsterjill Oct 2017 #47
BTW assume you know this but you are very lucky to be able to live in that wonderful city. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #31
I was thinking about running down there today.. sir pball Oct 2017 #38
Road rage wouldn't be a surprise jberryhill Oct 2017 #5
Sounding unlikely - 6 dead, 15 injured, he apparently had a paintball or BB gun muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #6
It isn't road rage. This was a deliberate act. still_one Oct 2017 #15
Absolutely not... brooklynite Oct 2017 #27
"road rage" is not accidental jberryhill Oct 2017 #29
...but the first engagement usually is. brooklynite Oct 2017 #36
CBS News: NYPD treating this as a terrorist incident brooklynite Oct 2017 #7
CNN says terrorism is being considered a possibility. Pale Blue Dot Oct 2017 #10
They're saying he shouted Allah Akbar. Trump supporters have already turned it into OliverQ Oct 2017 #13
The attack happen to liberal areas. This was a attempt to distract. rockfordfile Oct 2017 #20
Yup, Twitter and Facebook are pretty disgusting right now. Initech Oct 2017 #24
And no Deplorable's mouth is capable of forming those two words? jmowreader Oct 2017 #33
Mueller indictments taking humbled_opinion Oct 2017 #16
Um, are you saying MichMary Oct 2017 #21
I never said that humbled_opinion Oct 2017 #37
You're confusing 'infer' and 'imply. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #55
Don't worry, someone will say it soon enough. 7962 Oct 2017 #45
Really? Rustyeye77 Oct 2017 #51
The mourning begins again. hamsterjill Oct 2017 #18
As one DU-er wrote... ailsagirl Oct 2017 #19
Video of suspect after van attack (MSNBC) brooklynite Oct 2017 #22
Man, NYC has cameras everywhere, as well as well trained BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #30
Now 8 dead... brooklynite Oct 2017 #25
When I heard that the killer started at Houston St.(SoHo) BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #26
Time for the Trumpsters to 'rally around their leader'... pfitz59 Oct 2017 #32
ABC News: Suspect is Sayfullo Saipov, age 29, from Tampa brooklynite Oct 2017 #34
Sounds like a coordinated terror plot. romanic Oct 2017 #35
Coordinated with what? Iggo Oct 2017 #41
Sorry romanic Nov 2017 #61
About as coordinated as the Charlottesville attack. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #54
Damn fundies. Rustyeye77 Oct 2017 #39
This was literally the one thing that could change the subject from Mueller/Trump/Russia greatbaldeagle Oct 2017 #43
what adisgusting POS person. America will have to have walls to keep cars away from bike/walk paths. Sunlei Oct 2017 #44
Already heard it mentioned; blocking the open entrance areas. 7962 Oct 2017 #46
that's my old neighborhood Alameda Oct 2017 #48
Religion is a curse upon humanity. jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #49
Up to 8 killed in this terror attack oberliner Oct 2017 #50
Note About ISIS Found in Truck Used in NYC Terrorist Attack, Sources Say brooklynite Oct 2017 #52
Tourists from Argentina, Belgium among dead in Manhattan terrorist truck attack brooklynite Nov 2017 #53
Should the company that rented the truck to him be held responsible? oneshooter Nov 2017 #56
Now, now, you know that only applies to firearms... EX500rider Nov 2017 #57
Guns are designed to kill, vehicles are not muriel_volestrangler Nov 2017 #58
And yet something not designed as a weapon was used as a weapon to kill 8. Am I to believe that... Marengo Nov 2017 #59
Don't forget to sue the truck manufacturer sarisataka Nov 2017 #60

spotthebird

(171 posts)
8. MSNBC has video of the driver, he looks white
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:35 PM
Oct 2017

He had a long beard and very short hair.

One of his guns is reported to be BB gun or a paintball gun.

spotthebird

(171 posts)
11. The suspect supposedly yelled something about "Allah" when he exited
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:45 PM
Oct 2017

the truck.

So they can call it terror now.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
9. Conflicting reports. Possible the shots were from police, at the suspect.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:35 PM
Oct 2017

Suspect ran people over with a truck.


Fucking humanity. Let's start there and narrow down the details as they become available.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
28. I cant speak for the person you are talking to but no, I only hate guns.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:30 PM
Oct 2017

More guns than people, dear god.

aggiesal

(8,916 posts)
42. Now is not the time to discuss gun control ...
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 06:54 PM
Oct 2017

We’ll have plenty of time later to ignore gun control, giving it as much attention as it deserves.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
31. BTW assume you know this but you are very lucky to be able to live in that wonderful city.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:31 PM
Oct 2017

I couldnt afford to but if you can then I hope and am sure you appreciate it!

sir pball

(4,743 posts)
38. I was thinking about running down there today..
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:48 PM
Oct 2017

It's an easy long run down from up here, great for a day off. Went to lunch with my wife instead...my original timeframe would have put me down there just about at that time. Chills.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. Road rage wouldn't be a surprise
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:27 PM
Oct 2017

It's amazing how some people are triggered by bicycles:



Both men in the truck were later arrested and charged with relevant violations.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
6. Sounding unlikely - 6 dead, 15 injured, he apparently had a paintball or BB gun
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:31 PM
Oct 2017

which may be why some reports says he fired. Murder/suicide by cop?

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
13. They're saying he shouted Allah Akbar. Trump supporters have already turned it into
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:50 PM
Oct 2017

an anti-liberal political rant.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
20. The attack happen to liberal areas. This was a attempt to distract.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:17 PM
Oct 2017

I noticed that before Canada passed the Magnitsky Act there was a person running over people. It seems that the terrorism mostly happens to push against or distract. The terrorism in France before the election. Germany and UK.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
16. Mueller indictments taking
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:08 PM
Oct 2017

up too much media oxygen, the right needed the headlines changed if just for enough time to force through their tax charade.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
55. You're confusing 'infer' and 'imply.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 11:06 AM
Nov 2017

You're confusing 'infer' and 'imply.'

And yes, you did imply it. But I'd pretend I didn't make the implication if I were called on it as well...

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
45. Don't worry, someone will say it soon enough.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:15 PM
Oct 2017

And InfoWars will blame President Obama. Still.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
18. The mourning begins again.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:14 PM
Oct 2017

The poor victims. The poor families. The poor spectators who will be forever traumatized. The poor first responders who will be affected.

All so very sad.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
30. Man, NYC has cameras everywhere, as well as well trained
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:31 PM
Oct 2017

police and citizens. "Run, hide, fight, talk" is how they are taught to respond if you live and work in NYC.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
26. When I heard that the killer started at Houston St.(SoHo)
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:27 PM
Oct 2017

and ended up way down town I said "Holy Shit" since I know how far that is in NYC blocks. For someone to drive the wrong way for 20 BLOCKS I knew it was terrorism. I also was glad that the police shot the guy in the leg but that was just how he was hit randomly while their goal is to just take a person down ASAP and not take particular aim. Now the guy will be tried and most likely go to jail instead of taking the typically "easy" way out by lethal gunshot.

The fucking moron will love this...TERRORISM (aka DISTRACTION). I wouldn't put it past them to be grateful for this in a really screwed up, political agenda, propaganda way.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
61. Sorry
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 07:56 AM
Nov 2017

When I heard there was a shooting in addition to the guy running people over, I intially thought it was two separate attacks. My mistake. :/

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
54. About as coordinated as the Charlottesville attack.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 10:26 AM
Nov 2017

About as coordinated as the Charlottesville attack.

greatbaldeagle

(157 posts)
43. This was literally the one thing that could change the subject from Mueller/Trump/Russia
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:23 PM
Oct 2017

I hate these freakin idiots!

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
46. Already heard it mentioned; blocking the open entrance areas.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:17 PM
Oct 2017

Like what was done on Times Square after the drunk driver drove onto that sidewalk

Alameda

(1,895 posts)
48. that's my old neighborhood
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:29 PM
Oct 2017

Used to live on W Houston, before being gentrified out. I'm a school crossing guard and have to stand in front of vehicles every day only armed with my safety green jacket, whistle and stop sign. I can't tell you how nervous it makes me when people don't come to a complete stop.

brooklynite

(94,592 posts)
52. Note About ISIS Found in Truck Used in NYC Terrorist Attack, Sources Say
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:43 PM
Oct 2017
NBC News:

Police have found a note inside that truck that was used Tuesday to run down people on a bike path in lower Manhattan that indicates the suspect claimed to have carried out the attack for the Islamic State terrorist group, law enforcement sources said.

Eight people were killed and 11 others were seriously injured when Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov, 29, a native of Uzbekistan who came to the United States in 2010, allegedly drove onto a bike path near the West Side Highway on Tuesday afternoon, officials said.

Saipov allegedly crashed the truck into a school bus, got out with two imitation firearms and shouted "Allahu Akbar," Arabic for "God is Great" before he was shot and wounded by police, authorities said.

brooklynite

(94,592 posts)
53. Tourists from Argentina, Belgium among dead in Manhattan terrorist truck attack
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 07:32 AM
Nov 2017
New York Daily News:

Five of those killed after a terrorist plowed a truck through a Manhattan bike path were Argentine high school pals celebrating three decades of friendship.

The Argentine government identified the slain victims as Hernán Mendoza, Diego Angelini, Alejandro Pagnucco, Ariel Erlij and Hernan Ferruchi.

Erlij was an established businessman crafting steel near his Rosario hometown, while Ferruchi was an architect. All of them were visiting New York City for what would be a fateful 30-year reunion.

The vacationers spent the brisk, sunny afternoon pedaling along the Hudson River when 29-year-old suspect Sayfullo Saipov stormed toward them in a rented Home Depot flatbed truck.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
56. Should the company that rented the truck to him be held responsible?
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:25 PM
Nov 2017

After all they did allow him to rent one of their vehicles. Why should they not be sued?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
58. Guns are designed to kill, vehicles are not
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:04 PM
Nov 2017

and threads about attacks are not designed for firearms obsessives to push their obsession on the rest of us. Please do not try to hijack threads.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
59. And yet something not designed as a weapon was used as a weapon to kill 8. Am I to believe that...
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:16 PM
Nov 2017

No technology exists that could, if not prevent attacks, at least mitigate the lethality of motor vehicles if used as a weapon? As these incidents become more common, perhaps it is time to hold the manufacturers liable until they begin to take steps to reduce harm potential. Are you opposed to this?

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