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Botany

(70,504 posts)
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 11:15 AM Nov 2017

Mueller Has Enough Evidence to Bring Charges in Flynn Investigation

Source: NBC

Mueller Has Enough Evidence to Bring Charges in Flynn Investigation
by JULIA AINSLEY, CAROL E. LEE and KEN DILANIAN

WASHINGTON Federal investigators have gathered enough evidence to bring charges in their investigation of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser and his son as part of the probe into Russia's intervention in the 2016 election, according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation.

Michael T. Flynn, who was fired after just 24 days on the job, was one of the first Trump associates to come under scrutiny in the federal probe now led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller into possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign.

Mueller is applying renewed pressure on Flynn following his indictment of Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, three sources familiar with the investigation told NBC News.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mueller-has-enough-evidence-bring-charges-flynn-investigation-n817666



MSNBC has it on now .... "Reporter: This has to do with collusion w/Russia and
Flynn's dealings with Turkey." Rough quote




https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/politics/james-comey-trump-flynn-russia-investigation.html

May 16 2017

WASHINGTON — President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

“I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

The documentation of Mr. Trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia. Late Tuesday, Representative Jason Chaffetz, the Republican chairman of the House Oversight Committee, demanded that the F.B.I. turn over all “memoranda, notes, summaries and recordings” of discussions between Mr. Trump and Mr. Comey.
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Mueller Has Enough Evidence to Bring Charges in Flynn Investigation (Original Post) Botany Nov 2017 OP
Wow! Mrs. Overall Nov 2017 #1
I was hoping he flipped flynn. :( mucifer Nov 2017 #2
No wonder t-rump is itching for ground troops in NK Iliyah Nov 2017 #3
If it is true Mueller's team leaked this (doubtful) shanny Nov 2017 #11
Does that mean that he didn't flip? sweetroxie Nov 2017 #4
I think it means greymattermom Nov 2017 #6
That was my take-away from the article. Miles Archer Nov 2017 #13
Flynn asked for immunity in exchange for testifying before Congress BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #18
Lock him up! Lock him up! Yavin4 Nov 2017 #5
MSNBC Mueller might be putting pressure on Flynn to flip or his son will go to jail for years Botany Nov 2017 #9
Flynn was an early target of warrants, and he likely is on tape, video, etc. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #31
How ironic: George II Nov 2017 #10
woohoo!! P.R.I.C.E.L.E.S.S.!!! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #15
Guess what? Joy Reid must have seen my post, she just showed that video on her show!!!!!! George II Nov 2017 #16
Yep I just saw that! hahahahahaha!!!! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #17
Joy Reid also mentioned Stephanie Miller's favorite town Sheboygan too. Botany Nov 2017 #22
And that puts us IN The White House underpants Nov 2017 #7
This just makes me feel sad. scarletlib Nov 2017 #8
The usual culprit CountAllVotes Nov 2017 #12
Manafort & Gates were paired for the initial indictment BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #23
The reason BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #21
Check CountAllVotes Nov 2017 #25
So funny that Donald fired Comey over Flynn which caused Mueller which means Flynn going down! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #14
As they say, "what goes around comes around". Another appropriate video perhaps? "The Circle Game" George II Nov 2017 #20
Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #19
"I am more than willing to Do The Right Thing. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2017 #24
Interesting Tweet from this morning angrychair Nov 2017 #26
Why are they not calling him General Flynn? mgardener Nov 2017 #27
Don't forget John Kelly. calimary Nov 2017 #28
Gosh...I wonder what Trump and Putin will be discussing. C Moon Nov 2017 #29
White House Claims Flynns Job Was to Make Coffee When Papadopoulos Was Busy L. Coyote Nov 2017 #30
This was probably leaked by Flynn defense attorneys. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #32
mini-Flynn is very cocky today Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #33
Monday morning indictment time! Ohiya Nov 2017 #34
K & R Julian Englis Nov 2017 #35
Thanks for the photo of the fool in a t shirt. Hieronymus Nov 2017 #36
Sec. of Commerce also under the spotlight psychopomp Nov 2017 #37
 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
11. If it is true Mueller's team leaked this (doubtful)
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 11:33 AM
Nov 2017

the timing is poor re tRump's Asian trip / NK issue / etc.

Of course, there is no good time to upset der Fluegelhenie so maybe it's better when he is downwind of NK...if he thinks that clearly.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
13. That was my take-away from the article.
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 11:54 AM
Nov 2017
Mueller is applying renewed pressure on Flynn following his indictment of Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, three sources familiar with the investigation told NBC News.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
18. Flynn asked for immunity in exchange for testifying before Congress
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 12:36 PM
Nov 2017

back in March -

Michael Flynn Offers to Testify Before Congress in Exchange for Immunity

By MARK MAZZETTI and MATTHEW ROSENBERG MARCH 30, 2017

WASHINGTON — Michael T. Flynn, the former national security adviser, has offered to be interviewed by House and Senate investigators who are examining the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia in exchange for immunity from prosecution, according to his lawyer and a congressional official.

But the congressional official said investigators were unwilling to broker a deal with Mr. Flynn — who resigned last month for misleading White House officials about his contacts with Russia’s ambassador to the United States — until they are further along in their inquiries and they better understand what information Mr. Flynn might offer as part of a deal.

In a statement on Thursday evening, Mr. Flynn’s lawyer confirmed discussions with the House and Senate intelligence committees about possible testimony by his client. The lawyer, Robert Kelner, did not provide specifics about the terms under which Mr. Flynn would testify, but said that “no reasonable person, who has the benefit of advice from counsel, would submit to questioning in such a highly politicized, witch-hunt environment without assurances against unfair prosecution.”

“General Flynn certainly has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should circumstances permit,” the statement said. The Wall Street Journal reported Mr. Flynn’s offer to testify.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/us/politics/michael-flynn-congress-immunity-russia.html


Mueller was appointed Special Counsel a couple months later (May), so I expect Flynn was the low-hanging fruit who was the first targeted but they waited in order to put on pressure.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
9. MSNBC Mueller might be putting pressure on Flynn to flip or his son will go to jail for years
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 11:30 AM
Nov 2017

BTW Flynn Jr's Twitter account =

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
31. Flynn was an early target of warrants, and he likely is on tape, video, etc.
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 02:48 PM
Nov 2017

The best he can do now is beg for a reduced sentence. The evidence will be compelling, so no chance of winning at trial.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
22. Joy Reid also mentioned Stephanie Miller's favorite town Sheboygan too.
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 12:50 PM
Nov 2017
Joy Steph Bark Park, Guy Lafluer, Sheboygan


scarletlib

(3,411 posts)
8. This just makes me feel sad.
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 11:29 AM
Nov 2017

What (if true) could cause a man who had his rank and accomplishments in our nation to turn against this nation?

CountAllVotes

(20,870 posts)
12. The usual culprit
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 11:46 AM
Nov 2017

MONEY and LOTS of it!

Lock these traitorous frauds up for good and don't ever let them out!

Imprison and impeach!!!

Two out of the other four indictments (or is this just one more?). Who are the other three (or is it two if Flynn and son are two of the four?).

& recommend!

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
23. Manafort & Gates were paired for the initial indictment
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 12:50 PM
Nov 2017

But others beyond the Flynns (who also might be paired or grouped if not single) could be Sater, Cohen, and Page.

Response to Botany (Original post)

mgardener

(1,816 posts)
27. Why are they not calling him General Flynn?
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 01:26 PM
Nov 2017

Why they have dropped his title, General Flynn?

He is a disgrace to the Army and I wonder if there will be any other repercussions from General Flynn and his military connections?

First General Petraus and now General Flynn. What is going on with the military????

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
29. Gosh...I wonder what Trump and Putin will be discussing.
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 02:42 PM
Nov 2017

Trump is a disgusting traitor to his own country—you can have him, Russia.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
30. White House Claims Flynns Job Was to Make Coffee When Papadopoulos Was Busy
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 02:45 PM
Nov 2017

These people drank a lot of coffee! Turkish coffee, I bet.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/white-house-claims-flynns-job-was-to-make-coffee-when-papadopoulos-was-busy

The White House called an unscheduled press briefing on Sunday to clarify Michael T. Flynn’s role in the Trump campaign, claiming that his job consisted entirely of making coffee when George Papadopoulos was busy with other matters.

“Sometimes, we would ask for coffee and George was otherwise occupied,” the White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, said. “At that point, Michael Flynn would step in and make that coffee.”

When asked what role Flynn’s son, Michael G. Flynn, played in the campaign, Sanders indicated that he, too, was involved in coffee-making to the exclusion of all other responsibilities.

“There were many times when the two Flynns would make coffee together,” she said. “The father would actually make the coffee, and the son would add the creamer, sweetener, and whatnot.”

Sanders said that, in the weeks to come, the White House is likely to release the names of additional campaign staffers whose roles were limited to the preparation of coffee beverages, and that such names might include Jared Kushner and Donald Trump, Jr.

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SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
32. This was probably leaked by Flynn defense attorneys.
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 04:10 PM
Nov 2017

The FBI told Manafort when they were searching his condo that he should expect to be indicted; it was Manafort's people who leaked that. I imagine the FBI issued a similar heads up to Flynn and Flynn Jr. recently, and it is the Flynn camp leaking it.

The Flynn camp is probably trying to figure out if Trump would pardon both Flynn and Flynn Jr., so they can decide whether to flip or not. By leaking this, they may get a reassuring message from Trump, like the "stay strong" message he sent Flynn Sr. a while back. Trump has yet to send such a message about Flynn Jr., that I am aware of, so I imagine the Flynn camp is particularly nervous about Flynn Jr.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
33. mini-Flynn is very cocky today
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 04:13 PM
Nov 2017

The SJW are out in full this morning....the disappointment on your faces when I don’t go to jail will be worth all your harassment...
11:46 AM - Nov 5, 2017




psychopomp

(4,668 posts)
37. Sec. of Commerce also under the spotlight
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 11:32 PM
Nov 2017

His continued part-ownership in Navigator put him only three degrees of separation from Putin.

Again, why is it that everyone around Trump has ties to Russia?

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