Several Casualties Reported in Texas Church Shooting

[Roland99]

Source: NBC

A single shooter walked into the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs and opened fire, Wilson County Commissioner Albert Gamez Jr. told NBC News.

Gamez said he had spoken to the sheriff and other officials who said there were multiple fatalities and multiple wounded, but it was not immediately clear how many were dead or injured.

The shooter was "down," Gamez said.

Several other law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation also said "multiple" people had been killed, with as many as 15 injured. The FBI and ATF were headed to the scene, the sources said

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/several-casualties-reported-texas-church-shooting-n817751

[Initech]

1. Just over a month after Vegas. The NRA owns this one.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

2. This is not the time to politicize !11

[Stuart G]

3. The NRA owns a whole of these kinds of killings.

very sad

[Leghorn21]

4. The church's FB Page:

https://www.facebook.com/firstbaptistchurchsutherlandsprings/

[OliverQ]

5. But wait. Gun lovers tell me pro-gun states like Texas don't have these

issues since carrying around guns makes everyone safer.

[whathehell]

7. Where were all the "good guys" with guns?

This is in Texas, after all.

[NewDem17]

53. Thanks for not caring.

So glad to see so many here hate texans.

[whathehell]

55. Nice try

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but my point is that Texas is very pro gun and very much AGAINST gun regulation. Maybe THEY need to care as much about their people as they do their guns.

[whathehell]

60. Thanks for misunderstanding,

deliberately, perhaps, but asking "where were all the good guys" with guns in a pro-gun state like Texas, doesn't mean you "don't care" about them, and even less that you "hate" them.

[HAB911]

6. Gosh, there's just nothing we can do I guess

[milestogo]

8. Gun worship.

[Roland99]

9. Estimated 24 dead so far

https://mobile.twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/927258474068758529

[SoCalMusicLover]

10. Daily Mail Says 27+

[Roland99]

11. Probably at least that many injured too

[Botany]

13. 24 Dead? Thank you NRA.

I don't want to hear about thoughts and prayers ever again.

I am crying.

[SoCalMusicLover]

15. I Turn To Anger

I cannot understand how people can just blow this off and move on, as if there is not a problem. We have not evolved as a race, when people can think that "thoughts & prayers" (TM) will suffice and prevent this from happening again.....and again.....and again.....and again.....and again.....

[Botany]

16. It is the guns end of story.

More guns = more shootings.

Maybe the republicans in Congress can do their moment of silence too.

[Missn-Hitch]

39. Answers may lie in posts on their Facebook page. Talk of being 'martyrs'. Apparently,

thoughts and prayers is ALL it takes.

[raccoon]

12. OMG. If I were a young person, I would get the fuck out of this country.

If I were a young person, I would get the fuck out of this country.

And go somewhere where they have sane l gun laws.

[mountain grammy]

17. I've said that to my children many times..

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. Dont leave home. Your lifetime odds for dying by cars is 1 in 114. By firearm assault are 1 in 370.

Panic does not help you or anyone else. Be calm. Breath at a normal rate and make deeper breaths until calmness is restored. Don't try to fight feelings of panic or fears. Acknowledge them and let them go and go on to something else.

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[defacto7]

21. Yes.. death by both of those things Is extremely high.

So let's not try to fix either of those issues. Just accept auto death and firearms death as a fact if life and forget them.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

25. Whoosh. Putting problems in perspective does not mean inaction. Duh. . . nt

[LuvLoogie]

28. You need a license to drive. You need to register and tag your vehicle.

[raccoon]

43. And the law requires you to wear your seatbelt.

And cars have to have airbags. And other safety features have been added over the years. Why doesn't any legislation ever make any difference about the guns? But of course we all know the answer to that one.

[uppityperson]

22. Whataboutism

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. Yes. What about weighing probabilities and outcomes? Rationally. . . nt

[whathehell]

65. We have more mass shootings than any other developed nation..

...Weigh that.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

66. You miss the point of my post. Perhaps you want to join in panic with the one I responded to.

Perhaps you are weighing leaving the country too.

Post #12.

[whathehell]

67. No I don't, and I'm not at all sure that "panic" is an irrational response

to the two largest gun slaughters in our history being carried out within the last 6 weeks, ESPECIALLY within the context of an insane Republican run government which refuses virtually ANY restrictions on firestorms.

[NickB79]

32. Damn, Hawaii is loaded with guns

Almost half of all adults have one, yet they have an extremely low death rate. What do they know that we don't?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

33. Asian philosophy? Do they have better interpersonal relations?

[NickB79]

48. Lower suicide rate?

2/3 of gun deaths are suicides. Maybe the relaxed island life keeps stress down? I'd be pretty mellow too if I lived by the ocean.

[manicdem]

52. Gotta be wrong stats for Hawaii

There is no way there are that many gun owners in Hawaii, I think we have a lot less than the national average. Maybe 20% of adults own at most?

[kwalter66]

64. What do they know

How to be human

[HeartachesNhangovers]

68. This link says the Hawaiian gun ownership

rate is less than 10% (and about 1/3 of the US state average) - and the story is about how much the rate in Hawaii has increased in the last few years . I do not believe that Hawaiians are more likely to own guns than people in Arizona, Utah, Nevada, Kentucky, Tennessee, Texas or South Dakota, plus 30 other states.

[Journeyman]

38. Thank you for posting the charts . . .

[LuvLoogie]

45. Divide your stats by hours of operation per device.

Vehicles are in use everyday, all day, by people in close proximity to each other. On any given day about 750,000 are in operation in the Chicago area.

[Skittles]

56. ...

always the cars comparison

always

[Bernardo de La Paz]

61. Yes, cars. We don't panic about cars, so we should not panic about guns.

As I wrote, panic doesn't help anybody. Seems everybody missed the point.

Not panicking does not mean inaction, either.

[LanternWaste]

62. I'ts fun but, irrational to pretend all risks are as important

It's fun but, irrational to pretend all risks are as important to our daily lives as all other risks. Clever attempt, though...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

63. Have you ever replied to any post of mine except to slam it? I can't think of one.

You can stop stalking me now.

[a la izquierda]

47. Im 40 and I am out of here next summer. Nt

[bucolic_frolic]

14. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

[C Moon]

18. Trump's first question was probably the race of the shooter

so he could respond accordingly.

[sarisataka]

23. Sadly

there are many right here on DU asking the same question and making many assumptions about the victims based on skin color.

[OldHippieChick]

27. Unless the shooter was shouting something to do w/

Allah, Cheeto will not be interested.

[DoctorJoJo]

19. Just Another Example Of ...

... radical Baptist Christionists!

[Cold War Spook]

50. We need to protect ourselves.

Trump must not allow White Christians into this country unless they have been extreme vetting.

[keithbvadu2]

29. When Dylan Roof killed those people in church, some of the NRA/gun supporters tried to blame

When Dylan Roof killed those people in church, some of the NRA/gun supporters tried to blame the victims for not being armed.

[roamer65]

30. When you hand out guns like candy, this what you get.

I feel bad for the loved ones, but we are reaping what we have sown.

[raccoon]

44. Dah winner! Nt

[MountCleaners]

31. Someone on CBS identified the shooter...

...but I'm not saying anything until it's confirmed.

If it's true, the shooter is a white guy whose family belonged to the church, which is what I guessed was going on.

Foreign-born terrorists don't target little churches in the middle of nowhere. Was watching Fox (I was not at home, I was at the gym when it happened - I never watch Fox) and they don't know what to do. Seriously, they sound really concerned about the possibility that it could be "terrorism", and you know what "terrorism" is by their definition. I mean, give me a break. You know it's another crazy white guy.

[Drunken Irishman]

37. That report seems to be inaccurate...

The person who's linked to it has been reported to be at the hospital with his family, who are also victims in the shooting (he's with his son). Sounds like his parents were killed at the church and maybe wife.

If this is true, he's definitely not the shooter.

AS for terrorism and whether it's a white guy ... I doubt it's terrorism but it could be a person of color, too - or a white guy. We just don't know.

[BigmanPigman]

34. MSNBC reported that this particular church video recorded each

service and so that people at home could watch it on You Tube if they couldn't make it to actual mass. If this is the case, then the whole thing was filmed.

[hamsterjill]

36. Trump, Cornyn and Abbott offering thoughts and prayers

Until they do something more than offer “thoughts and prayers”, this will likely continue.

And this post is made by a believer.

[Lucky Luciano]

40. Not even close to the record.

Try harder NRA.

[7962]

41. I'll reserve comment for now. nt

[George II]

42. One out of every 25 people in Sutherland Springs was murdered today.

[Madam45for2923]

46. Pastor & wife out of town. Their 14yo daughter killed:

Pastor & wife out of town. Their 14yo daughter killed:

Link to tweet

[Roland99]

49. :( completely senseless

[Skittles]

58. ...

[Madam45for2923]

59. She must've been a smart 14yo for them to let her be there w/o them

[guss]

51. horrible

For all the people that believe this is just a shooting.
Its a killing of people who love God and peace.
Evil is Poison and it is lacing into all things .
Fuck Guns , Fuck Nazis and Fuck the Rich, they are all in power and destroying Good.
For profit and power that has no end in this world.

[NewDem17]

54. I haven't been here long

but one thing i've learned is this place hates Texans and it hates christians. A lot of comments in this thread show little concern or care that this happened.

[Skittles]

57. BULLSHIT

now head back to the FREAK REPUBLIC