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riversedge

(70,220 posts)
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 03:25 PM Nov 2017

Paul Ryan: Repealing estate tax is about fairness to dead people worth over $11 million

Source: raw story



05 Nov 2017 at 09:55 ET


House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) defended his bid to repeal the tax on estates worth over $11 million because he said the law is not “fair” to dead people wishing to pass on all of their wealth to family.


During an interview on Fox News that aired on Sunday, host Chris Wallace asked Ryan why his tax reform plan included repealing the estate tax, which conservatives often refer to as “the death tax.”

“We’re only talking about like 5,000 people a year,” Wallace noted. “There’s already an $11 million exemption.”

“I would say two things,” Ryan said as he defensively crossed his legs. “First of all, it’s a fairness argument. Second of all, it’s a jobs argument. You actually create jobs by getting rid of this death tax. Because you know what kills one family business from passing their business on to the next generation? The estate tax.”
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Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/paul-ryan-repealing-estate-tax-is-about-fairness-to-dead-people-worth-over-11-million/

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Paul Ryan: Repealing estate tax is about fairness to dead people worth over $11 million (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2017 OP
Repealing the estate tax is about establishing a super-rich privileged class. Next, Speaker NCjack Nov 2017 #1
nice analysis and opinion piece nt msongs Nov 2017 #2
Ten Facts You Should Know About the Federal Estate Tax Jim__ Nov 2017 #3
Dead people are not dead "people" bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #4
They're dead, Paul... paleotn Nov 2017 #5
Macro Monopoly game Cryptoad Nov 2017 #6
You cannot take it with you. Marcuse Nov 2017 #7
What family business is worth $11 million? IronLionZion Nov 2017 #8
This about your children your children's children and your children's children's children stevebreeze Nov 2017 #9
The Estate Tax is a levy on ultra-rich people who are too cheap to plan their estates jmowreader Nov 2017 #10
More lies about creating jobs with a tax cut. Ilsa Nov 2017 #11
You Can't Take It With You (1938) Frank Capra, Jimmy Stewart bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #12
Fair to dead people: elleng Nov 2017 #13

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
1. Repealing the estate tax is about establishing a super-rich privileged class. Next, Speaker
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 03:32 PM
Nov 2017

Ryan will want royal titles for those in that class. How about: King, Queen, Prince, etc.? We do not want that in America !!!

Jim__

(14,076 posts)
3. Ten Facts You Should Know About the Federal Estate Tax
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 03:33 PM
Nov 2017

From Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

An excerpt:

...

Only roughly 80 small business and small farm estates nationwide will face any estate tax in 2017, according to TPC. TPC’s analysis defined a small-business or small farm estate as one with more than half its value in a farm or business and with the farm or business assets valued at less than $5 million. Furthermore, TPC estimates those roughly 80 estates will owe less than 6 percent of their value in tax, on average

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Much of the money that wealthy heirs inherit would never face any taxation were it not for the estate tax. In fact, that’s one reason why policymakers created the estate tax in 1916: to serve as a backstop to the income tax, taxing the income of wealthy taxpayers that would otherwise go completely untaxed.

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bucolic_frolic

(43,162 posts)
4. Dead people are not dead "people"
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 04:05 PM
Nov 2017

they are estates of the deceased. They do not exist anymore. They have passed.

Republican obsession with undead and unborn is creepy.

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
5. They're dead, Paul...
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 04:07 PM
Nov 2017

"fairness" is meaningless when you're fucking dead.

Secondly, accumulated wealth DOES NOT CREATE JOBS!!!!!!! It simply creates more accumulated wealth....and financial bubbles as an unfortunate side effect. This has been studied ad nauseam, and proven to be completely wrong.

Thirdly, why not cut the bullshit and start handing out peerages. I mean, that's really what all this inheritance tax shit is about. That's what they want to do, but don't have the nads to just fucking says it.....Duke of this and Baron of that.....

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
6. Macro Monopoly game
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 04:21 PM
Nov 2017

Whoever ends with all the wealth WINS,,,,,,,,,, geeez,,,, everybody else lives under bridges!

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
8. What family business is worth $11 million?
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 05:53 PM
Nov 2017

are they counting on people not knowing the value of mom and pop shops and small farms? Is the local plumber's or electrician's shop worth $11 million?

Who do they think they're kidding?

stevebreeze

(1,877 posts)
9. This about your children your children's children and your children's children's children
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 05:56 PM
Nov 2017

They will never be able to compete in the economy or in politics without the financial advantage the GOP wants the ruling class to have.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
10. The Estate Tax is a levy on ultra-rich people who are too cheap to plan their estates
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 06:41 PM
Nov 2017

There are ways to set up trusts and corporations so as to minimize exposure to the estate tax...and as everyone else has said, small businesses that are worth eleven million dollars are few and far between.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
11. More lies about creating jobs with a tax cut.
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 06:47 PM
Nov 2017

I don't think the dead people care about what's fair.

I do think people like ryan are shortsighted when it comes to accumulation of wealth over decades into the hands of a fewbeing a danger to democracy.

bucolic_frolic

(43,162 posts)
12. You Can't Take It With You (1938) Frank Capra, Jimmy Stewart
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 07:59 PM
Nov 2017


If they would tax these people properly while they are alive they wouldn't have to worry about them when they're dead.
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