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TexasTowelie
(112,204 posts)They are required to provide financial disclosure statements.
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canuckledragger
(1,641 posts)He can't defend it.
He's terrified to release those returns with my suspicion being he'd spark french revolution style backlash.
He may or may not of pioneered some of the income tax evading tricks (& maybe quite a few illegal ones, plus possible partnerships with businesses & such on the 'do not deal with on penalty of treason' list)
He may not have started some of those tricks but sure as hell took them to extremes & probably taught his buddies how to do the same, with NO consideration (or care) as to what the ripple effect would be for anyone else not not born with a platinum spoon in his mouth like he was. Social contract be damned...he never signed anything for that!
I remember a few posts here & elsewhere claiming that there are 10's of trillions of dollars hiding in offshore, tax free havens for the ultra-rich that can afford the army of accountants & lawyers to hide it for them.
I want to see leeches like him & all the dirty little financial tricks that vampires like him use to get out of paying their fair share.
As Obama SHOULD have said, "you didn't build that" BY YOURSELF.
I think of all the tax breaks, subsidies, public resources, etc. & most importantly the work done by EMPLOYEES that goes into building a company, regardless of industry.
With offshore accounts not subject to U.S. law, (or any other's laws for that matter) that means that ANYONE, in any country is able to pull the same shit he does & shift the burden onto the REAL tax-paying public's of said countries, while the vampires make off with all the loot & the ones that got them those riches left to...well...die. (not so extreme a statement considering all the efforts by the ultra-rich to limit health care, worker safety, living wages, etc.)
I really hope Harry Reid has access to those tax returns & eventually finds a way to release them. It's about time for change. REAL change. change that benefits not just the U.S., but other countries as well.
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canuckledragger
(1,641 posts)you should see me when I'm in a trolling mood, (I respect you guys & have no reason to pull that stuff here, lol!)
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)The ad market is almost over-saturated at this point. And all but 4-5% have already made up their minds.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)how could Mittens and his ilk be THIS stoopid?!
Shouldn't he have picked someone to lay low in the background? We know how the "Palin Effect" works with common sense voters (not)...didn't they?
BUT, it shows how the Thug, Bully and BAGGER Members have taken control of the GOPathetic Party and needed and ultra Right Extremist/Radical on the ticket.
FYI...in case you missed it when it came out in 2008...still fun today...turn up your volume and click every place:
Palin as President
http://www.palinaspresident.us/
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kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)driving a wienermobile and working as a personal trainer??
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Bossy Monkey
(15,863 posts)Remember that thing the other day about how you could tell who the VP choice would be by the number of Wikipedia edits in the days before the announcement? The idea was that the campaign staff would be sanitizing and double-checking to make sure there was nothing embarrassing in there. Mitt's campaign falls down on the job completely AGAIN!
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Where would the former personal trainer be without government assistance?
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)IggleDoer
(1,186 posts)... if it's as damming as suspected, he may be force to withdraw the race and Ryan will sneak in as a candidate.
Would anybody be surprised if Ryan stabs Myth in the back?
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bayareaboy
(793 posts)He needs to stab anyone, Everyone and I mean everyone would like to keelhaul Mittens.
RC
(25,592 posts)He did introduce Ryan as the next president.
bayareaboy
(793 posts)driving the Weiniermobile for Oscar Meyer could be so lucrative. Perhaps that is why Mitt-man hired him?
I think that he should have stuck with the prepacked meat thing earlier in life instead of being a Randian Dufus.
sad sally
(2,627 posts)gained through insider trading knowledge before the Stock Act loophole in the House was finally closed a couple of weeks ago.
onenote
(42,703 posts)to publicly disclose their tax returns. They are required to file a financial disclosure statement that isn't really all that detailed.
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onenote
(42,703 posts)the amount of taxes that they paid, let alone their returns.
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trof
(54,256 posts)7. Keeps $40 billion in subsidies for Big Oil. In 2011, Ryan joined all House Republicans and 13 Democrats in his vote to keep Big Oil tax loopholes as part of the FY 2011 spending bill. His budget would retain a decades worth of oil tax breaks worth $40 billion, while cutting billions of dollars from investments to develop alternative fuels and clean energy technologies that would serve as substitutes for oil. For instance, it calls for a $3 billion cut in energy programs in FY 2013 alone and would spend only $150 million over five years or 20 percent of what was invested in 2012 on energy programs.
8. Family stands to benefit from oil subsidies. Ryan and his wife, Janna, own stakes in four family companies that lease land in Texas and Oklahoma to the very energy companies that benefit from the tax subsidies in Ryans budget plan, the Daily Beast reported in June of 2011. Ryans father-in-law, Daniel Little, who runs the companies, told Newsweek and The Daily Beast that the family companies are currently leasing the land for mining and drilling to energy giants such as Chesapeake Energy, Devon, and XTO Energy, a recently acquired subsidiary of ExxonMobil.
http://truth-out.org/news/item/10837-twelve-things-you-should-know-about-vice-presidential-candidate-paul-ryan
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ComplimentarySwine
(515 posts)Between roughly $900,000 and over $3,000,000?