Poll: Biden leads Trump in prospective 2020 matchup

[DonViejo]

Source: Politico



By STEVEN SHEPARD 11/15/2017 05:48 AM EST

Former Vice President Joe Biden would lead President Donald Trump in a 2020 general election, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll.

Only 35 percent of voters would choose to reelect Trump in 2020, the poll shows — substantially fewer than the 46 percent who would vote instead for Biden, who said Monday that he is “not closing the door” on a third attempt at the presidency in 2020. One in 5 voters are undecided.

Biden’s 11-point margin is actually smaller than the poll’s previous question, in which voters are asked whether they will vote to reelect Trump, or for a generic Democrat. The generic Democrat leads Trump, 48 percent to 34 percent, the poll shows.

“Former Vice President Joe Biden has the upper hand in a hypothetical matchup against President Donald Trump, but he underperforms compared with a generic Democrat,” said Kyle Dropp, Morning Consult’s co-founder and chief research officer. “Notably, 86% of Democrats say they would vote for a generic Democrat over Trump, but only 78% of Democrats say they prefer Biden over Trump.” Independent voters tilt away from the incumbent: 41 percent would vote for Biden, and 26 percent for Trump.

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Poll: Voters think Trump will benefit from tax plan

By STEVEN SHEPARD 11/15/2017 05:49 AM EST

Majorities of voters think President Donald Trump and the company he built will benefit from proposed changes to the tax code, but fewer than three in 10 expect those changes to help them. And voters still want to see Trump’s tax returns before a tax bill moves forward.

That’s according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll, conducted last week, that also shows opposition to the plan continuing to increase modestly among voters familiar with it, even though a plurality support the proposal.

Among those voters who have heard at least something about Republicans’ plan to change the tax code, 47 percent of voters support it and 40 percent oppose it. Support for the plan increased 2 percentage points from last week, when 45 percent of those familiar with the plan backed it. But opposition increased 4 points, up from 36 percent last week.

Voters expect that Trump will benefit personally from the changes, if enacted. Fully 56 percent of voters think the president will benefit, while only 16 percent don’t think he will. More than a quarter, 27 percent, aren’t sure.

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[frazzled]

1. Im thinking that by 2020, Trump wont be in a matchup.

And if he is, that the proverbial ham sandwich would beat him.

[Thor_MN]

20. Hell, a fresh steaming dog turd should beat Dolt45.

[mainstreetonce]

2. Go Joe

2020 Biden

[Irish_Dem]

3. If Biden runs, he will win. He is what we need psychologically.

A well known, well respected, stable long time public servant.
Understands and respects Americans, the government, our traditions.

Will be able to heal and rebuild.

I don't think people are going to want to take a chance on an unknown
commodity.

[WheelWalker]

11. My views precisely. Well stated.

[obamanut2012]

4. NO NO NO BIDEN

[George II]

5. Is this before or after the Russians begin trolling our social media and hacking the election?

[Gothmog]

6. I would be happy to support Joe Biden in 2020

[Demoiselle]

26. Me too.

[still_one]

7. I don't think this means a thing If trump survives his term, he will be challenged in

the republican primaries, and I think he has created a lot of disfavor in his own party, and he has a good chance of not winning the nomination.

I also believe that Biden is not the best candidate the Democrats have to offer. He is a mixed bag. His behavior during the Clarence Thomas hearings a lot of folks have not forgotten.

Better to focus on 2018 at this time

[treestar]

16. I would truly enjoy the humiliation

of Donald for not getting the nomination and losing it to a primary challenger.

[still_one]

18. agreed

[StevieM]

8. Biden and Sanders are both running in 2020. I would be shocked if either of them skips the race.

I expect Elizabeth Warren to run too.

[CTyankee]

9. I have been supportive of Warren a long time but I also watched Biden on his

Colbert appearance. He was promoting his new book but that's OK. He has a great story. And he has known true suffering, losing his first wife and baby daughter in a tragic accident and then losing his son Beau. He was a great VP for Obama. Looking at what we have now, I guess, makes us long for what we had. Like the old song goes "You don't know what you've got til it's gone..."

[Irish_Dem]

12. I agree, Biden is a stronger candidate. I think Bernie is strong too. nt

[CTyankee]

13. I voted for Bernie in our primary but of course for HRC in the general.

I knew she would win but I wanted to show my vote as being progressive. Not that I didn't like HRC, I did and I knew she would win. My husband voted for her in the primary. We didn't get into a fight over it, tho.

[Irish_Dem]

14. Exactly the same situation here.

I like Hillary, I love Bernie.

They are both fine public servants and we should be proud of both of them.

[CTyankee]

17. Do you have your eye on another contender? What do you think about Bill de Blasio?

We've got some damn good women who would be great. Kamala Harris is one and so is Amy Klobuchar (sp.?). Harris came out really strong in the Senate hearings the other day. Not perfect but I see her strong points.

De Blasio had an impressive win in NYC. I hate to say this but his height is impressive and some people won't vote for a short guy. Stupid...

[StevieM]

19. I don't care for Amy Klobuchar. We need someone who will recognize the assault that was launched

on our democracy by James Comey. She has described him as a man of integrity, who took an action that she disagreed with. I completely reject that interpretation.

I also don't like Blunt/Klobuchar, a bill designed to pressure third world countries to open their doors to American adoption.

I am not sure how tall Tom Steyer is. I am liking him a lot lately and would be interested in supporting him if he ran for president. I also like Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington. He is 6'3".

[Irish_Dem]

22. Oh, I didn't realize she was totally clueless. She is out. nt

[Irish_Dem]

21. I think they are all good, but we are going to need a strong "Healer in Chief".

There is going to be a lot of psychological, political, and governmental damage to heal and unite.

It best candidate is going to have to have strong and specific skill set.

I think Biden could run for one term and then let a rising start take the next term.

[CTyankee]

25. I kinda agree with that. It would be unusual but doable.

I think your words "to heal and unite" are spot on. I can see Biden in that role...

[Irish_Dem]

27. Unusual times. The nation is very traumatized and the government very damaged.

Yes Biden is the one who fits the bill to heal and repair.

[Fred Sanders]

10. Moronic article. 46 for Biden and 48 for Generic is a within margin of error, so a tie. Morons

with an agenda.

Truer headline-Shock Polls: Biden and Generic Slaughter Trump in 2020

[treestar]

15. only state by state polls count

we should have learned that from 2016.

[BlueIdaho]

23. THIS

There is no national horse race for President, there are 50 state elections. Democrats need to be fighting in all 50 states.

[FSogol]

24. Just from the title alone, I knew this would be Politico or The Hill. Never too early to start

trying to divide the party.