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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 07:52 PM Nov 2017

Court sides with fired driver who feared 'mark of the devil'

Source: Associated Press


Updated 3:47 pm, Wednesday, November 29, 2017

ALTOONA, Pa. (AP) — A fired Pennsylvania school bus driver who believed being fingerprinted would leave "the mark of the devil" on her has won a court battle to receive unemployment benefits.

Bonnie Kaite lost her job with Altoona Student Transportation Inc. in 2015 after telling the company being fingerprinted for a background check could bar her from heaven.

The state unemployment board denied her benefits last year, saying the belief was personal, not religious. It said her belief was based on her father's interpretation of the Bible, not the teachings of a religious organization.

PennLive.com reports a Commonwealth Court panel overturned that decision Wednesday. The panel found Kaite's beliefs were sincerely held religious convictions, even if she practiced them only at home.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/education/article/Court-sides-with-fired-driver-who-feared-mark-of-12392938.php



Bus Driver Fired for Refusing 'Mark of the Devil' in Background Check Can Sue Employer
A school bus driver fired after refusing to be fingerprinted for a background check because she believed it would mean she was accepting the "mark of the devil" can sue her employer for religious discrimination, a federal judge has ruled.

By P.J. Dannunzio | October 31, 2017

A school bus driver fired after refusing to be fingerprinted for a background check because she believed it would mean she was accepting the “mark of the devil” can sue her employer for religious discrimination, a federal judge has ruled.

U.S. District Judge Kim R. Gibson of the Western District of Pennsylvania denied Altoona Student Transportation’s request to toss Bonnie F. Kaite’s civil rights case. Citing the Book of Revelation in the Bible, Kaite, who worked at the company from 2001 until 2015, refused the background check on grounds that accepting the mark of the devil would deny her entry into heaven.

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https://www.law.com/thelegalintelligencer/sites/thelegalintelligencer/2017/10/31/bus-driver-fired-for-refusing-mark-of-the-devil-in-background-check-can-sue-employer/?slreturn=20171029184500
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Court sides with fired driver who feared 'mark of the devil' (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2017 OP
There are times when it is wiser Turbineguy Nov 2017 #1
So....we can make up ANYTHING now and be good? Moostache Nov 2017 #2
Anything - as long as the Scaliar/Gorsuck faction of court would agree with it. sandensea Nov 2017 #4
These federalists/regency law school types don't think that way MarcA Nov 2017 #19
True - although in recent years they've embraced their inner televangelist. sandensea Nov 2017 #20
These days it seems anything goes. And you're right, it'll continue. 7962 Nov 2017 #16
As a Lutheran I think that decision is wrong. Can't believe a lawfirm would take that on for 35%... marble falls Nov 2017 #3
Well I agree with you charliea Nov 2017 #5
Well now she's going to sue the bus company for religious discrimination. Now we know why the .... marble falls Nov 2017 #6
We are becoming the US Taliban. sadiegirl Nov 2017 #7
'We' aren't House of Roberts Nov 2017 #18
you have the Anti-Christ as acting president so it all makes sense Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #8
Alabama resident says: yallerdawg Nov 2017 #9
I've met people who treat illness not by seeing a doctor bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #10
Note that this scam only works if your'e born in the US Xipe Totec Nov 2017 #11
SMH Solly Mack Nov 2017 #12
as i said before , where do they get this felgercarbe? easy stomach AllaN01Bear Nov 2017 #13
Forget about courts. This woman is in serious need of a mental health professional. ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #14
Funny thing - that supposed 'mark of the devil' is part of her. The ink transfers the mark from her keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #15
When I was fingerprinted for a background check, murielm99 Nov 2017 #23
Sounds to me like she needs a good shrink.... paleotn Nov 2017 #17
I sincerely do not understand the decision. TomSlick Nov 2017 #21
Sounds to me that someone is afraid of the background check... Thor_MN Nov 2017 #22

Turbineguy

(37,332 posts)
1. There are times when it is wiser
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 07:54 PM
Nov 2017

to pay somebody to stay away from there job. This might be one of them.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
2. So....we can make up ANYTHING now and be good?
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 07:58 PM
Nov 2017

"mark of the devil" huh? And this judge did not require any physical or practical PROOF of this be demonstrated before ruling? Is he also a fucking pastor in his spare time?

So can I get disability to avoid driving in the rain because I am afraid of the wrath of Zeus?
How about a waiver from hunting licenses because Artemis does not permit such human contrivance?
Maybe I can apply for a tax deduction because I have it on good authority that Ares is against current military practices?

This society deserves the coming hell hole it will die off in...

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
19. These federalists/regency law school types don't think that way
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:58 PM
Nov 2017

if you are fired for abandoning your company vehicle to keep
from freezing to death. They are after all so "right to life".

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
20. True - although in recent years they've embraced their inner televangelist.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 10:11 PM
Nov 2017

Anything for the fascist cause.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
16. These days it seems anything goes. And you're right, it'll continue.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:03 PM
Nov 2017

the land of the perpetually offended & insulted

Apparently Brown U is letting students identify as any race they "feel" like.

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
3. As a Lutheran I think that decision is wrong. Can't believe a lawfirm would take that on for 35%...
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:01 PM
Nov 2017

of six months at no more than $300/week, let alone pro bono.

These are truly interesting times.

charliea

(260 posts)
5. Well I agree with you
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:05 PM
Nov 2017

My question to the OP is, do we know if this judge is a newly installed Trumpkin, or is the judge a pastor of yet another religious sect that says their beliefs are the one truth (don't bother me with science!)

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
6. Well now she's going to sue the bus company for religious discrimination. Now we know why the ....
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:08 PM
Nov 2017

sharks represented her.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
8. you have the Anti-Christ as acting president so it all makes sense
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:13 PM
Nov 2017

I thought the mark of the beast was on the forehead??

bucolic_frolic

(43,169 posts)
10. I've met people who treat illness not by seeing a doctor
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:15 PM
Nov 2017

but by whacking it with a Bible.

Yeah, it was in Pennsylvania too.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
11. Note that this scam only works if your'e born in the US
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:21 PM
Nov 2017

Because anyone trying to come to this country from abroad has to be fingerprinted and photographed at some point...

Unless this establishes precedent and now terrorists coming into the country can avoid being fingerprinted on religious grounds....

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
14. Forget about courts. This woman is in serious need of a mental health professional.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:35 PM
Nov 2017

I have lost all confidence in our legal system. What a sham to take this obviously deranged woman's case instead of calling in the shrink.

keithbvadu2

(36,809 posts)
15. Funny thing - that supposed 'mark of the devil' is part of her. The ink transfers the mark from her
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 08:48 PM
Nov 2017

Funny thing - that supposed 'mark of the devil' is part of her. The ink transfers the mark from her to the paper/screen; not to her

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
23. When I was fingerprinted for a background check,
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 01:15 AM
Nov 2017

they did not put ink on my fingers. I had to roll my fingers on a glass screen and they took pictures of my fingerprints with some sort of fingerprinting device. This was for a teaching certificate. I don't think most places use ink these days.

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
17. Sounds to me like she needs a good shrink....
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:36 PM
Nov 2017

and it's probably a good thing she's not driving a school bus. The stupidity of humans never ceases to amaze me.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
21. I sincerely do not understand the decision.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:57 AM
Nov 2017

I can strain and accept the idea that someone with a sincerely held religious belief ought not be required to be finger printed (except upon arrest). However, if a job requires finger printing and a background check, that person is put to an election between the job and the religious beliefs.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
22. Sounds to me that someone is afraid of the background check...
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 01:06 AM
Nov 2017

Somebody has skeletons in their closet.

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