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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:19 PM Nov 2017

Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks: Roy Moore accuser forged yearbook inscription, is 'clearly a liar'

Source: CNN




By Chris Massie, CNN
Updated 6:16 PM ET, Wed November 29, 2017

(CNN)Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks said Tuesday that a woman who accused Republican nominee for US Senate Roy Moore of sexually assaulting her when she was 16 is "clearly a liar."

The woman, Beverly Young Nelson, now 56, showed reporters at a news conference earlier this month what she said was Moore's inscription in her yearbook in 1977, which read, "To a sweeter more beautiful girl, I could not say, 'Merry Christmas.' Love, Roy Moore DA, 12-22-77, Olde Hickory House." Moore has denied writing the inscription and his lawyer Philip L. Jauregui demanded earlier this month that Nelson and her lawyer, Gloria Allred, hand over the yearbook to be examined by a third party. Allred said Tuesday that they'd only do so if the Senate holds a hearing on Moore and the former Alabama Chief Justice testifies.

Brooks, who said Tuesday that he voted for Moore in the Alabama Senate race, said in a radio interview the yearbook inscription was forged and that the accusations against Moore were political attacks that would not lead to a jury conviction in a court.

"What you have is the mainstream leftwing socialist Democrat news media trying to distort the evidence to cause people to reach the conclusion that Roy Moore engaged in unlawful conduct with a minor and my analysis of the evidence is that is not the case," Brooks said on "The Dale Jackson Show" on WVNN Alabama radio. "Most importantly, the media likes to say 'well, there are nine complainers.' Seven of them aren't complainers. In fact, I would be calling seven of those ladies as witnesses on behalf of Roy Moore on the issue of whether he is engaged in any kind of unlawful conduct."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politics/kfile-mo-brooks-roy-moore/index.html

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Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks: Roy Moore accuser forged yearbook inscription, is 'clearly a liar' (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
Jesus, these guys would deny that the sun rises in the east if it kept them in power. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2017 #1
Alabama Republicans and the Ring of Truth Vogon_Glory Nov 2017 #2
Isn't this the same yearbook that also contains a picture of young Kayla Kisor, a girl struggle4progress Nov 2017 #3
talk abt a walking Turd! Cryptoad Nov 2017 #4
Sorry, but the yearbook signature looks fake. EL34x4 Nov 2017 #5
Letter to Moore from "the forger." yallerdawg Nov 2017 #6
Leigh Corfman had nothing to do with that fake yearbook signature that Gloria Allred trotted out. EL34x4 Nov 2017 #7
That signature? yallerdawg Nov 2017 #8
The integrity of Gloria Allred? LOL! EL34x4 Nov 2017 #10
Wrong. Leigh Corfman gave the yearbook to Allred and Leigh vouched for its authenticity. pnwmom Nov 2017 #11
The fake yearbook allegedly belonged to Beverly Young Nelson EL34x4 Nov 2017 #13
They're all the same, lumped into a discredited group... yallerdawg Nov 2017 #17
You're right. So you're saying that Beverly is a liar. I watched that press conference pnwmom Nov 2017 #19
I'm saying the yearbook signature is fake. EL34x4 Nov 2017 #20
So you're calling her a liar, because she vouched for it. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #21
Yep. And unfortunately, her lie tainted the whole story. EL34x4 Nov 2017 #22
It doesn't look obviously fraudulent to me. What are your credentials? n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #23
I don't need credentials to see that the sky is blue. EL34x4 Nov 2017 #24
So basically you are making this claim mercuryblues Nov 2017 #32
What objective evidence are you presenting to support your allegation? LanternWaste Nov 2017 #33
You must imagine Gloria Allred is stupid, and careless. She is not. Judi Lynn Nov 2017 #12
Gloria Allred is a publicity hound whose main objective is getting her face on TV. EL34x4 Nov 2017 #16
No one in Alabama knows who the hell Gloria Allred is... yallerdawg Nov 2017 #18
Ad hominem attacks on Allred are sickening. spooky3 Nov 2017 #29
You certainly make a lot of unsupported claims, regardless of your integrity. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #34
Agree entirely with your post. Participation in this thread has become the equivalent of standing Atticus Nov 2017 #28
We know Mo Brooks is a partisan hack. yallerdawg Nov 2017 #9
Have heard about that vicious scheme. No racism driving that idiot, is there? Judi Lynn Nov 2017 #14
What is equally scary is Mo Brooks lancelyons Nov 2017 #15
One person lying? Okay. Jules Hey Nov 2017 #25
i cant wait til all these old white guys are gone from office... samnsara Nov 2017 #26
Gloria Allred needs to start churning out lawsuits and Mo should be in her crosshairs. Vinca Nov 2017 #27
Was Mo Brooks one of Anita Hills questioners spooky3 Nov 2017 #30
So, another Repug blaming the media for Moore's sexual harassment problems. No surprize. riversedge Nov 2017 #31
1. Jesus, these guys would deny that the sun rises in the east if it kept them in power.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:23 PM
Nov 2017

And they would easily convince their base that the liberal media and scientists were lying to them.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
2. Alabama Republicans and the Ring of Truth
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:24 PM
Nov 2017

Mow Brooks’ latest pronouncement has convinced me that with Alabama Republicans, when it comes to the ring of truth, they don’t even have anything of cheap zirconium.

struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
3. Isn't this the same yearbook that also contains a picture of young Kayla Kisor, a girl
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:42 PM
Nov 2017

Moore was noticing at her dance recital (or recitals?) around that same time and couldn't forget until he married her a few years later?

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
5. Sorry, but the yearbook signature looks fake.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:47 PM
Nov 2017

"Celebrity lawyer" Gloria Allred diminished all of Moore's accusers when she trotted this laughably bogus yearbook out in front of the TV cameras. And when Katy Tur asked Allred straight up if this signature was legit, Allred wouldn't answer. Little wonder Allred doesn't want anyone examining the yearbook.

Gloria Allred mucked things up so spectacularly, one must wonder if Moore himself didn't hire her.

And in what should be a surprise to no one, Roy Moore is polling back in the lead.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
6. Letter to Moore from "the forger."
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:58 PM
Nov 2017

Mr. Moore,

When the Washington Post approached me about what you did to me as a child, I told them what happened, just as I had told family and friends years before. I stand by every word.

You responded by denying the truth. You told the world that you didn't even know me. Others in recent days have had the decency to acknowledge their hurtful actions and apologize for similar behavior, but not you.

So I gave an interview on television so that people could judge for themselves whether I was telling the truth.

You sent out your spokesmen to call me a liar. Day after day.

Finally, last night, you did the dirty work yourself. You called me malicious, and you questioned my motivation in going public.

I explained my motivation on the Today show. I said that this is not political for me, this is personal. As a 14-year old, I did not deserve to have you, a 32-year old, prey on me. I sat quietly for too long, out of concern for my family. No more.

I am not getting paid for speaking up. I am not getting rewarded from your political opponents. What I am getting is stronger by refusing to blame myself and speaking the truth out loud.

The initial barrage of attacks against me voiced by your campaign spokespersons and others seemed petty so I did not respond.

But when you personally denounced me last night and called me slanderous names, I decided that I am done being silent. What you did to me when I was 14-years old should be revolting to every person of good morals. But now you are attacking my honesty and integrity. Where does your immorality end?

I demand that you stop calling me a liar and attacking my character. Your smears and false denials, and those of others who repeat and embellish them, are defamatory and damaging to me and my family.

I am telling the truth, and you should have the decency to admit it and apologize.

Leigh Corfman

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/roy_moore_leigh_corfman_accuse.html#incart_river_index_topics

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
7. Leigh Corfman had nothing to do with that fake yearbook signature that Gloria Allred trotted out.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:01 AM
Nov 2017

If anything, Corfman has been harmed by it. Thanks to Allred's shameless publicity stunt, people are questioning all of Moore's accusers.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
8. That signature?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:07 AM
Nov 2017

Allred is an attorney, and she said from the get-go that they would turn over the book in Washington to a Congressional hearing where Moore went under oath.

The only people questioning the integrity of these women are Moore supporters.

Moore supporters. Who also question the integrity of Gloria Allred.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
10. The integrity of Gloria Allred? LOL!
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:16 AM
Nov 2017

YGBFKM! Integrity! Gloria Allred? That's a freakin' laugh riot. That woman is a shameless, unscrupulous publicity hound.

And she might as well have said she'd turn over the yearbook when Moore does a press conference from Mars since as a lawyer, she knows damn well Moore isn't going to be questioned under oath by the Senate as a candidate.

She's not turning over the yearbook because the signature was fabricated and she knows it.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
11. Wrong. Leigh Corfman gave the yearbook to Allred and Leigh vouched for its authenticity.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:16 AM
Nov 2017

So you're calling Leigh a liar.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
13. The fake yearbook allegedly belonged to Beverly Young Nelson
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:22 AM
Nov 2017

Another one of Moore's accusers. It was Nelson who appeared at the press conference represented by Gloria Allred, not Leigh Corfman.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
17. They're all the same, lumped into a discredited group...
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:39 AM
Nov 2017

because Gloria Allred won't tell her client to turn over the yearbook to anyone until they get Moore under oath.

Of course a guilty man won't do that - who knows what else they have on him?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
19. You're right. So you're saying that Beverly is a liar. I watched that press conference
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:46 AM
Nov 2017

and I don't know how anyone could watch that and come to that conclusion.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
22. Yep. And unfortunately, her lie tainted the whole story.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 01:26 AM
Nov 2017

And Roy Moore will likely be elected to the senate.

Why did she present such an obviously fraudulent yearbook signature as evidence? I don't know. Maybe Allred put her up to it.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
24. I don't need credentials to see that the sky is blue.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 01:33 AM
Nov 2017

I can go out and look at it with my own two eyes. And that signature? My own two eyes are seeing different handwriting, different colored ink, among other odd discrepancies. Anyhow, it's a moot point. Allred isn't letting anyone examine it. I can't imagine why.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
32. So basically you are making this claim
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:09 AM
Nov 2017

based on feelings, not logic.

Whatever your feelings are about Allred it has nothing to do with the claim and evidence offered. Allred is a high powered attorney, she didn't get where she is by being reckless and stupid. By claiming the yearbook is fake you are also implying that Allred did not do her due diligence and verify the signature. She is offering to turn the yearbook over if Moore agrees to testify. This is where people who claim forgery lose. With the claim that of course she did, she knows he won't testify. If the yearbook was faked, he would be itching to testify because he would know the forgery would be revealed. That would throw into question ALL of the claims. Seems to me an innocent man would love to be exonerated and prove he really is a target of the so-called liberal media.

He can't debunk it and he knows it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
33. What objective evidence are you presenting to support your allegation?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:54 PM
Nov 2017

What objective evidence are you presenting to support your allegation (regardless of what you take)?

On edit: ahhh... my bad. Upon further reading, You are unable to give any evidence, and simply present your bias as fact. That's approximately seven logical fallacies in one. Possibly eight.

Nice little narrative you have going there, fella.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
12. You must imagine Gloria Allred is stupid, and careless. She is not.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:19 AM
Nov 2017

Whatever is it which compels you to despise this woman, anyway? You're the first person I've EVER heard who has decided to wage war upon a very competent attorney. This is no place to indulge in a character assassination from out of nowhere.

Is it all attorneys, or all women attorneys, or something even more unexpected?

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
16. Gloria Allred is a publicity hound whose main objective is getting her face on TV.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:30 AM
Nov 2017

Go watch the video where Katy Tur grills her on the veracity of that yearbook signature, watch Allred tap dance, and then we can talk about Allred's integrity.

I'll tell you what, Doug Jones had half a chance to win this thing until Gloria Allred showed up.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
18. No one in Alabama knows who the hell Gloria Allred is...
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:41 AM
Nov 2017

and she damn sure didn't show up down here!

And it's what Roy Moore did that is giving Doug Jones half a chance!

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
29. Ad hominem attacks on Allred are sickening.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 08:50 AM
Nov 2017

Please provide specific evidence of cases in the past where she did not represent her clients’ interests. When was she found guilty of violating any standards of professional conduct?

You personally have not examined the yearbook and are not a forensic or handwriting expert. So why should anyone give your opinion, which you are using to bash a strong female lawyer, any weight?

I get why you want to express your view once, but to keep repeating, without any evidence whatsoever, is unseemly.

It’s reminiscent to me of a lot of the bashing some people did of Hillary Clinton.

Why wouldn’t an attorney give up the yearbook at this point? Because it is leverage to try to get the case to move forward.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
34. You certainly make a lot of unsupported claims, regardless of your integrity.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:58 PM
Nov 2017

You certainly make a lot of unsupported claims, regardless of your own integrity or your own objective.

Bias often outweighs rational thought. I get it.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
28. Agree entirely with your post. Participation in this thread has become the equivalent of standing
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 08:49 AM
Nov 2017

next to the monkey cage while they're flinging poo. I'm walking away.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. We know Mo Brooks is a partisan hack.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:12 AM
Nov 2017

This Dale Jackson is a RWNJ had a radio show called "Attack Machine."

Old Dale was suspended from his employment for posting a falsified SoS document "notifying" Democratic voters they were voting on Wednesday. He - like all Republicans regarding their voter tampering - said it was a joke.

Disgusting Republican hacks.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
14. Have heard about that vicious scheme. No racism driving that idiot, is there?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:23 AM
Nov 2017

Eternal curses upon racist, dirty scumball Dale Jackson.



 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
15. What is equally scary is Mo Brooks
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:24 AM
Nov 2017

Mo brooks saying "What you have is the mainstream leftwing socialist Democrat news media trying to distort the evidence" shows how engrained the Fox News effect is on a large chunk of America.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
30. Was Mo Brooks one of Anita Hills questioners
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 09:02 AM
Nov 2017

Or is he simply hoping to live up to their distinguished standards?

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