Scarborough: Trump allies told me he has dementia

[Julian Englis]

Source: The Hill

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough said on Thursday that people close to President Trump told him during the campaign that Trump has "early stages of dementia."

During MSNBC's "Morning Joe," Scarborough said Trump is "completely detached from reality."

"You have somebody inside the White House that the New York Daily News says is mentally unfit," Scarborough said.

"That people close to him say is mentally unfit, that people close to him during the campaign told me had early stages of dementia."

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/media/362513-scarborough-trump-allies-told-me-he-has-dementia?rnd=1512049733

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Seems obvious.

[irisblue]

1. And yet you shilled for & supported him. ALOT Shame on you Joey

[rockfordfile]

2. No kidding

[dawg day]

4. Exactly

It's great to have new allies in the resistance to Trump. But Scarborough was instrumental in getting Trump nominated and then elected. Now that Trump turned on him, Joe's all about how crazy Trump is. But if he really did believe that, why would he inflict this man on us? I think a lot of these Trumpers-turned-non-Trump thought that they'd get this idiot elected, and then use him to get ACA repeal and draconian immigration policies and all sorts of tax cuts for the rich. They didn't think through that their puppet was more like a bigfoot-- stupid, yes, but also mean and destructive.

[hibbing]

12. Along with the rest of the corporate media n/t

[iluvtennis]

37. ++++ agree.

[SharonClark]

78. That's Joe for you.

[yuiyoshida]

3. I would like to hope Republicans will remove him from office but

I have zero faith In that, infact, they will be the first to scurry away, when an actual crisis happens between the President and another power...

THEY ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY meaning they want to Destroy and fleece
this Country.

[Wellstone ruled]

6. You just stated the truth and Fact.

Is the GOP creating a scenario by using Scab,in order to dump Trump? Scab has been the GOP's go to Guy for any disinformation or plant a Narrative.

[gay texan]

36. it's all about getting their tax cut

This is Reagan 2.0

[Dustlawyer]

68. It is all about the wealthy donors and their

Leagalized bribery! It corrupts the politicians and the MSM who receive the ad money from all of that fundraising.

We are dupes because we allow ourselves to be abused and distracted by the latest assaults on us and do not put all of our focus on getting the money out of our politics.

The Republicans are on the verge of ruining the economy, blowing up our deficit, and taking away the social safety net that we will need all the more in the coming years!

[Ilsa]

41. I wonder if the gop will go after trump if they pass the tax bill?

If they get that one big thing done to make their donors happy and fuck us over, they may take him out for security reasons. They may also hope it will shut Mueller down.

[karynnj]

67. Once they get their tax bill, they might be concerned that he is a drag for 2018

I wonder if they will make it that he has dementia and has had it since before 2016. They could argue that he was essentially the front man for an evil team that included Bannon, Flynn and Manaford, who coopted the naive Don Jr and Jared into agreeing to things that were not legal.

He leaves office without being charged with treason and the Republicans would label all the people indicted as opportunists - not real Republicans.

This could happen ONLY if Republicans see that outcome better for the party than having him in office.

[Shipwack]

63. Of course they wont. Weve seen this play before...

Reagan was so far into Alzheimer’s that he didn’t recognize friends, yet there was no move to remove him from office. Heck, I could almost see the “logic” of delaying that until he was in for 6 years, paving the way for Bush the Elder to be president for a total of 10 years...

But, as usual, the Republicans put party over country then, and will probably do so this time, barring Orange Man crapping his pants and flinging it at people. Maybe not even then...

[yankeepants]

5. Another scam to stay out of jail.

[bluestarone]

19. kinda agree

with this, but hope he still goes to jail with all his accomplices

[yankeepants]

22. My dream too. Ill fitting orange jumpsuits and cloth loafers for all!

[UpInArms]

43. And 10 thread count sheets

Eom

[paulkienitz]

7. I've been saying all along that lying all the time can't be excused as a mental illness

but I think it's entirely possible that he's a habitual lying sack of shit who is also now becoming demented, and is now mentally unfit in addition to being morally unfit.

On the other hand, this may just be a narrative the GOP establishment is pushing in order to minimize the blowback from Trumpsky to the rest of them. If so, I hope they buy into it and act on it; we need to get Trumpsky out of the white house by any means, and if the other Republicans manage to talk themselves into a belief that they can somehow keep his stank from rubbing off on them if they remove him, I'll encourage them at every step. So let's 25 45!

[PatSeg]

14. Yes

Trump has always been a compulsive liar and now I think he could be suffering from dementia as well.

[erronis]

60. Liar-in-Chief with disabilities. Maybe that chip implanted in Moscow is (mal)functioning?

I cannot quite honestly believe that one ugly sac of human protoplasm can be so evil. Almost to the point of Machiavellian but we all know he doesn't have one-tenth the intelligence of Machiavelli.

Just as an experiment, we should put the Dump into a Faraday cage (a dumpster?) and see if he can even grope without receiving commands over the airwaves.

Continuing the analogy/reality, can a programmed robot be held accountable for its actions?

[Alice11111]

61. ...as soon as the Repubs get the tax bill destroying the US

passed. Then, they can talk about the 25th. Maybe, this is how they got Corker and McCain to jump in the boiling water.

[Honeycombe8]

8. Yes. I spotted this in 2016. I said often enough "there's something wrong with him in the head."

Some agreed, but I suppose some people thought I was making a political statement, or was just hating on him. But I meant it literally. There was something wrong with him, and still is.

I said in 2016, but not before, after I had a chance to really see him a lot, what he said, how he acted, that he was unfit for office.

Some others did, too. There IS something wrong with his mind.

[Cicada]

15. I read that a decline in quality of what you say is a sign

If you listen to Trump speaking a few years ago and listen to him now, there is an obvious decline in the quality of his words. There is reason to worry. In Reagan’s first term a coworker of my girlfriend called her while I was there and said that at a dinner just completed where he was at Reagan’s table Ronnie told a long anecdote and then just a few minutes later told it again. He knew then Reagan had dementia.

Houston, we have a problem.

[Honeycombe8]

18. Good story. I recognized Reagan had a problem in his 2nd term, but not before.

Ronnie Reagan let it slip once that his dad had Alzheimer's, they thought, in his 2nd term, then his brother (I think it was) quickly corrected him that that's not true...and Ronnie corrected himself, saying something else. But it's a well known "secret" that he had Alz. at least by his 2nd term. It was obvious.

[BumRushDaShow]

33. First person I thought of too

where it was oft-speculated that Nancy ran the WH at that point. Ironically we are seeing this sort of thing manifesting in someone who was already the textbook con man, an archetype that relies on being able to scope out a mark and convincingly "play a part" long enough to score, and then move on. If you look at old interviews of Drumpf from almost 40 years ago, you see he pretty much talks (and bullshits) the same way today as he did then, but it seems that now, his demeanor has shifted to a hyper-focused intent to get revenge by any means necessary, and that results in his inability to determine where he is, why he is there, and what he is supposed to be doing. I.e., he can no longer function independently.

[Honeycombe8]

64. Well said. nt

[homegirl]

50. Early signs of

Ronnie's onset of Alzheimer's showed in one of the debates during the second presidential campaign. Ronnie was given 90 seconds to sum up, he rambled on about driving the Pacific Coast Highway for 2 minutes and 30 seconds. The moderator finally stopped him. At that point I thought he was senile or had early onset dementia, but it was Alzheimer's.

[Honeycombe8]

65. Interesting. I don't remember that. What I remember is...

What I remember most is Nancy answering press questions for him, after he stalls and doesn't speak.

[Kimchijeon]

9. Well duh... They love him being the distraction clown

While they plunder, rape and pillage to their wildest fantasies. No way will they remove it from office, look at how profitable he is to our oligarchy! They aren't done raping us into oblivion, not by a longshot.

[getagrip_already]

10. so, there was knowledge the future potus was suffering from dementia..

and NOBODY made that public? NOBODY backed off supporting him?

IMAGINE if that had been known about hillary?

What the actual F?

That should be a chargeable offense right there. Knowingly allowing someone without the capacity to lead take the office of the potus should be a felony of the highest order.

[Mrs. Overall]

28. I've been thinking the same thing since I read the story this morning.

How on earth did they allow someone that compromised (health) to assume the leadership of the US?

Scarborough has been sitting on this?

[Ligyron]

11. One doesn't need to be a Psychiatrist to see there's something wrong with him.

That there's probably something organic overlying of his serious personality flaws.

[BigmanPigman]

34. Right! Even my dog could tell he is crazy as a bedbug.

But is he also smart as a fox? He is the world's greatest con man on top of being completely insane. I never thought that our country would be stupid enough to fall for this hack...no wait...YES I DID!

I know the people in this country are moron's and that is why I said from the moment he went down that golden escalator that he would win. My rational...Americans are fools and fall for snake oil salesmen every time. Too bad we will all suffer individually and our country will be permanently damaged.

[world wide wally]

13. First he was Putin's useful idiot, now he is the GOP's useful idiot.

But he is the BEST useful idiot... Believe me

[PatSeg]

29. People tell me

the best useful idiot the world has ever seen.

[More_Cowbell]

16. Trying to set up a defense

I do believe he has some kind of mental illness, but it isn't anything that wasn't obviously apparent last year. And it doesn't explain everything.

[Chakaconcarne]

17. He absolutely does... there is no question.

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. He gets sidetracked by his own words - in the middle of a tax speech, "rocket" triggered him

President Trump went after North Korean leader Kim Jong Un during a speech on tax reform Wednesday, calling him a "sick puppy" a day after Pyongyang's latest missile launch.

"We have tremendous support for this tax plan because these massive tax cuts will be rocket fuel ... Little Rocket Man," Trump said, interrupting himself to use his nickname for the North Korean leader, "... rocket fuel for the American economy."

"He's a sick puppy," Trump added.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/362425-trump-calls-kim-jong-un-a-sick-puppy-after-missile-launch

This isn't someone with a brain that is making a case - he's reading an autocue, and when he sees the word "rocket" (written for him by someone else), he thinks "rocket? Why have I been saying that a lot recently? Oh, 'rocket man'. That's what I've been succeeding with, so say that now."

[GusBob]

71. This is why he comes up with nicknames, and repeats things over and over

His short term wiring is misfiring.

He sees Native Americans and thinks: Pocohontas as another example

Why he can't let go of repetitive themes, NFL, election outcome, Hillary Clinton, birth certificate, CNN

Over and over he repeats things as his mind becomes jumbled and reality is altered into his own private twilight zone

As pointed out down thread, early dementia on top of other pathologies such as narcissism

[Maven]

21. And yet *Hillary's* health was made an issue during the campaign

When we had someone clearly mentally unstable running for office who had a quack doctor sign a pre-written note attesting to his amazing health.

I just can't anymore.

[Hulk]

49. So was John Kerry's military service...

They painted him out to be a coward, a traitor, a liar about actually qualifying for his medals, etc.

Instead, we got the draft dodging, reserve hiding, AWOL fuck stick as the picture of courage.

This country is so damned ignorant and gullible. I'm ashamed.

[Alice11111]

57. The juxtaposition makes me leave this country, but

I can't. Oh, to be young in the medical or science field or young enough that it made sense to get another degree.

[sprinkleeninow]

52. Wait. Wait. Yeah, HRC hadn't the stamina to be POTUS.

She almost fell out from a bout of pneumonia.
GOD FORBID!!
But, lookit what we The People wound up with:
looney-toons personified.

[leanforward]

23. I'm with Joe

It's going to take someone like Joe to start the ball rolling.

I've not always been Joe's fan, but I do believe he is a patriot/citizen.

What I do not understand is the GOP's fear of speaking up. Their silence is acquiescence to his aberrational behavior. Making fun of the Asian leaders, tweeting that British neo-nazi crap.

Impeach him. Or use the 25th to give him a medical retirement. He's done enough damage. pRezident dRumpf is sick.

[JenniferJuniper]

31. I don't like Joe, but I agree, it's

not going to be Larry O'Donnell or Rachel that gets things moving....

[GoCubsGo]

24. Early stages?

He is well beyond that.

[sprinkleeninow]

54. He also had a tete a tete with George Washington Carver, peanut inventor,

in Bowling Green, Virginia not too long ago. Or was it that 'Frederick' guy.

[Mrs. Overall]

26. Is "dementia" the polite term for "fucking lunatic"?

[getagrip_already]

38. dementia isn't the same thing....

dementia is a disease that degrades or impairs your ability to think, remember, and reason. But people with dementia are not necessarily dangerous or racist or evil.

It may not even be fair to say he has dementia. He has some mental illness, or illnesses, that bring on psychotic episodes. The psychosis divorces him from reality, and that makes him dangerous.

Whatever it is, he is a fucking lunatic. But dementia didn't make him that way. It was a pre-existing condition.

[Eyeball_Kid]

46. Higher order thinking is either impaired

Or nonexistent. Conceptualizing relations between relations becomes impossible, limiting one to understanding symbols, but that deteriorates to concrete moral judgments: black or white, right or wrong. Short term memory is the most obvious symptom. That is where Trump he is.

[annabanana]

66. If he was "dangerous, racist and evil" BEFORE the onset of dementia,

Things are not going to get better.

[zentrum]

27. As soon as the tax bill

...passes, the Repugs will ease him out.

He was there to do the tax redistribution of wealth plan and when that's done, he's no longer needed.

They'll privately threaten impeachment forcing him to publically claim some health problem and resign.

Giving us the evil and competent Pence.

I feel profoundly check mated.

[getagrip_already]

40. they need someone to blame all this on when the fit hits the shan....

But they want to keep him around long enough to kill social security and medicare/medicaid. Once the new deal is repealed, and the free press is gone, and civil rights have been redefined to protect white Christians only, then they can get rid of him.

Until then, they still need him. Otherwise they can't blame him.

[The_Casual_Observer]

30. Of course he is, and after they get all they want they will be admitting it too.

[Mike Nelson]

35. But...

...her emails! She deleted emails! Who deletes emails! It's unheard of! She's also a magician because emails are to and from people - so, to delete her emails means she deleted all the other people!!! - by magic! She must be a witch! Joe and Mika agree! Let's do a 20 minute daily intro on the EMAILS!!!!

[turbinetree]

39. If you would have stayed up, you could have gotten to see how Lawrence O'Donnell

addressed the issue, in fact you could have see it last night on his show and learned something , and just think there Scarborough this is the second time O'Donnell has brought this up in many references , why haven't you brought on Bandy Lee ( great book)

[bobbieinok]

42. Told during campaign? yet gave T free air time, pushed him?!?

[defacto7]

45. An easy way out so the GOP doesn't have to accept

resposibility for this huge travesty of a presidency. They can blame it on his illness. And who's going to prosecute a person with Alzheimer's? That would make the left and the prosecution look heartless to his base. Then they would blame the left.

He probably does have the disease but that is unfortunately not going to play well for bringing the minions of scum to justice.

[Hulk]

47. They've played this game before..

The imperial grand wizard of mythical gods, ronnie reagan, had advanced alzheimers the last few years of his administration as well.

The repuKKKes know how to play this. He's only a stooge for their greedy, selfish and destructive agenda.

We just need to keep putting the brakes on the soulless sons of bitches until we can turn Congress Democratic, and undo some of the destruction they have already started.

Wake up America. The voters are either going to save this country or flush it down the toilet of no return. I'm not terribly optomistic; but I'm terribly hopeful.

[geretogo]

48. Dementia is perfect for the Rethugs . All they want in the White House is a pair of fingers

that can scribble a signature on their bills to destroy America . They will then call it a win .

[OnDoutside]

51. Is this retaliation for Trump's dead intern tweet, or vice versa ?

[BigDemVoter]

53. Even if he didn't have dementia, he's unfit for office. The man is a fucking swine.

[Sneederbunk]

55. An outhouse is missing a rat.

[Grammy23]

56. They could also be laying the ground work to ease him out for mental health reasons.

The leaks about insiders at the White House calling to express concern for his stability could be a way to prepare his fans AND the rest of America for his removal. His fans won’t be happy no matter how he is removed, but less likely to revolt if they can show he is “sick”or suffering from dementia. They all know someone with dementia or have a family member who has it so they can make him a sympathetic figure to the fans, while still explaining why he must go.

Once they get this tax deal through, they will be most happy with what they got out of him. After that he is a problem.

Never mind that they are gambling with our lives and safety over the North Korean issues. I was thinking this morning suppose NK decides to lob off an ICBM loaded with a nuclear warhead? Well, most likely we have the capability to knock it out of the sky. Fingers crossed. But won’t someone or somewhere get the results of a nuclear blast in the sky? Won’t there be some fallout from that? So no matter what happens, we have a big problem. And our Congress, Cabinet and Veep are willing to roll the dice that maybe nothing will happen before they can remove tRump.

MAYBE.

[benld74]

58. No. I dont buy this

Just another ruse to get out of his mess

I want as many in this administration
To get theirs
The way they gave it to this country

[Cheviteau]

59. What?

Early stages? EARLY STAGES!!!??? I call bullshit. That asshole is on his last curtain call.

[Martin Eden]

62. Trump is mentally unfit even if he doesn't have dementia

He is a pathological liar and a malignant narcissist with the maturity of a schoolyard bully.

[riversedge]

69. A godzillion recs!!

[sarcasmo]

70. 25th Amendment Now.

[Wednesdays]

72. Once they get their tax cuts, they'll dump tRump

Evoking the 25th, citing he has dementia. Then comes the spin: leave the old fool alone, he didn't know what he was doing. He won't see the inside of a jail cell...mark my words.

[JCMach1]

73. Trial Balloon, file under excuses for resignation

[Calista241]

74. Yeah, this strikes me as a backup plan in case hes indicted.

Claim dementia and live out his life as a free man.

[ck4829]

75. Kick

[duforsure]

76. Maybe Mueller should point blank ask him under oath

Has any doctor told you that you have early stage dementia or anything like it? They could use it as a defense to get him off with his crimes.

[beachbum bob]

77. the entire mass media including Joe fed off Trump-mania for profits and audience share

THEY are as responsible for getting this moron elected as Stein voters are...of course Foxnews deserves the "crown"...