Kushner Is Said to Have Ordered Flynn to Contact Russia

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Source: Bloomberg

Former national security adviser Michael Flynn's guilty plea Friday for lying to the FBI is alarming news for Donald Trump. But the first person it's likely to jeopardize will be the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner.

Two former officials with the Trump transition team who worked closely with Flynn say that during the last days of the Obama administration, the retired general was instructed to contact foreign ambassadors and foreign ministers of countries on the U.N. Security Council, ahead of a vote condemning Israeli settlements. Flynn was told to try to get them to delay that vote until after Barack Obama had left office, or oppose the resolution altogether.

That is relevant now because one of Flynn’s lies to the FBI was when he said that he never asked Russia's ambassador to Washington, Sergey Kislyak, to delay the vote for the U.N. Security Council resolution. The indictment released today from the office of special prosecutor Robert Mueller describes this lie: "On or about December 22, 2016, Flynn did not ask the Russian Ambassador to delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution."

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-01/kushner-is-said-to-have-ordered-flynn-to-contact-russia

[Botany]

1. This has Flynn getting in touch with Russia BEFORE Trump was in power.

And he did it on orders from Trump. Game over.

[BumRushDaShow]

8. And what the media keeps refusing to emphasize is

that there was a SITTING President (Obama) STILL in office, who was legally continuing to govern at THAT time, AND who would legally remain head of state until January 20th, 2017 at noon. So all of this stuff was going on illegally.

[Justice]

2. Is it possible that Flynn was more of a patsy than we think?

Maybe Flynn didn't know about Trump Tower meeting and work with Russians by Manafort, Kushner, Donald Jr. - Flynn only had side of equation - he was compartmentalized - reach out to Russia and other foreign leaders because he had prior relationship with those governments.

Not arguing to defend him just positing point as he may now realize he was used and could be cooperating as a result.

The real kingpins were Kushner, Donald Jr and dad.

[DonViejo]

3. ABC is reporting...

Flynn prepared to testify Trump directed him to contact Russians: ABC

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029909610

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6. Thru Jared... I agree

[DonViejo]

9. It's now being suggested Pence is the possible culprit

https://www.thedailybeast.com/very-senior-trump-official-authorized-flynns-russia-outreach

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10. both perrhaps?

[DonViejo]

19. I can see Trump issuing the order to and through the both of them, ultimately to Flynn

I'm wondering though if Pence is dumb enough to have done it.

[TeapotInATempest]

18. Pleeeeease let it be Pence.

[Dave Starsky]

4. Wonder how Princess Ivanka feels...

About the prospect of her children talking to their dad on Father's Day on one of those little black phones they have on their side of the glass.

[delisen]

5. She will write an essay about how poised mothers

must be during such such unfair but necessary events.

[Dave Starsky]

7. Maybe she can design an attractive hat...

That won't get crushed by the penitentiary metal detector, yet still looks festive and fun.

[delisen]

24. Ivanka, the modern-day Scarlet O'Hara.

[tanyev]

27. Or an essay about how tough it is to date when you are a single mom with three kids

and your ex-husband is not available to babysit.

[keithbvadu2]

15. Jared would go to Club Fed

Probably no glass wall there.

[delisen]

25. Will he play tennis or take up woodworking?

[Vinca]

11. Will they allow Jared to order a Brooks Brothers orange jumpsuit?

[left-of-center2012]

12. Link in O.P. doesn't work

This one works

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-01/kushner-is-said-to-have-ordered-flynn-to-contact-russia

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14. Edited.

Thank you.

[left-of-center2012]

13. Might Trump and Jared share a cell ?

[keithbvadu2]

16. Jared; tolerated in the right wing sphere as long as he is useful. When things go bad, it will becom

Jared; tolerated in the right wing sphere as long as he is useful. When things go bad, it will become ‘blame the Jew’.

[FakeNoose]

17. Sure they've already thrown him under the bus

It started last summer, and people have noticed how the kid isn't even around the White House any more.

Question is, will Jared keep quiet and take one for the team, or will he turn on Cheeto along with the others? It could be tricky since he probably is looking at jailtime, and who knows if he'll end up divorced as well.

[DeminPennswoods]

20. MSNBC reporting Kusher is the "very senior"

official referred to in the plea.

I can't believe Pence and Sessions aren't involved somewhere, though. Pence was head of the transition and Sessions was the other big national security advisor.

[Luciferous]

23. That's what I was thinking when they were talking about senior transition officials.

I hope they can nail Pence too!

[inwiththenew]

21. I'd rather it be someone not in the family

Kushner probably knows that being the father to his grandkid and husband to his daughter that he won't be left to twist in the breeze. I have to imagine Trump would pardon Kushner regardless of the political fallout just do to the family relation.

Anyone else and they would have to wonder if Trump would have their back and would be more likely to make a deal.

[delisen]

26. But a federal pardon won't work for a likely state charge

Trump may see that as just a wasted pardon.

"Jared, if I pardon you on the federal charge they will just go harder on you on the state charges-and besides for a guy like you the federal prison system has much better accommodations. Cuomo will have you in Attica."

[Bayard]

22. Run away, run away!