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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 06:57 AM Dec 2017

Deutsche Bank received a subpoena from Robert Mueller on Donald Trumps accounts: source

Source: Raw Story

Special Counsel Robert Mueller has asked Deutsche Bank to share data on accounts held by U.S. President Donald Trump and his family, a person close to the matter said on Tuesday.

Germany’s largest bank received a subpoena from Mueller several weeks ago to provide information on certain money and credit transactions, the person added, confirming a report by German daily Handelsblatt published on Tuesday.

Deutsche Bank, which has loaned the Trump organization millions of dollars for real estate ventures, said it would not comment on any of its clients.

Deutsche Bank rejected demands in June by U.S. House Democrats to provide details of Trump’s finances, citing privacy laws.



Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/deutsche-bank-received-a-subpoena-from-robert-mueller-on-donald-trumps-accounts-source/

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Deutsche Bank received a subpoena from Robert Mueller on Donald Trumps accounts: source (Original Post) G_j Dec 2017 OP
"asked" - with a subpoena! bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #1
which means? getagrip_already Dec 2017 #8
My bet is on Mueller. hamsterjill Dec 2017 #11
Deutsche Bank will find it to their advantage to comply FakeNoose Dec 2017 #25
I wonder if they will refuse THIS . . annabanana Dec 2017 #2
Sounds like they already handed it over. blaze Dec 2017 #17
Merkel made them turn it over! Lol Dustlawyer Dec 2017 #18
HA! - See what happens when you dis your allies?. . . n/t annabanana Dec 2017 #21
. blaze Dec 2017 #22
LOVE that!.. . . . n/t annabanana Dec 2017 #23
Thanks for sharing this. lark Dec 2017 #24
Thank you for this. nt jrthin Dec 2017 #26
Good! Keep digging Bob Mueller! PearliePoo2 Dec 2017 #3
Deutsche Bank has been caught allowing mirror trading by Russians, is on the NYSE, so it will ancianita Dec 2017 #4
well that is an eye opener G_j Dec 2017 #5
+1 Roland99 Dec 2017 #6
Yay yay yay, Christmas is early shenmue Dec 2017 #7
Happy Holidays riversedge Dec 2017 #10
Trump has had a lot of last political nails in his coffin but lets hope the accumulation will riversedge Dec 2017 #9
How much has Trump stashed overseas to evade taxes? L. Coyote Dec 2017 #12
Mueller is going in for the kill shot. Botany Dec 2017 #13
They may have to go through the German government to force Deutsche Bank to comply. n/t Yavin4 Dec 2017 #14
Sounds like they willingly replied a couple weeks back. n/t Ellipsis Dec 2017 #20
Deutsche Bank has US operations marylandblue Dec 2017 #27
Doesn't work that way. Yavin4 Dec 2017 #28
Remember tRump's "red line" on Mueller? lastlib Dec 2017 #15
Maybe with a little pressure.... SergeStorms Dec 2017 #16
tick tick tick..... samnsara Dec 2017 #19
Here's the Handelsblatt article (in English); they think DB was eager to comply muriel_volestrangler Dec 2017 #29
This is why Donnie hasn't Tweeted in 24 hours. sarcasmo Dec 2017 #30
Ruh ro Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2017 #31
Deutsche Bank is also tied into the Prevezon money laundering case... AntiFascist Dec 2017 #32
Trump lawyer: Deutsche Bank has not received subpoena for Trump records muriel_volestrangler Dec 2017 #33

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
8. which means?
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 08:33 AM
Dec 2017

My guess is nothing. muehler doesn't enforce olicy or us-german relations. rex is coincidentally in europe this week.

If deutche bank refuses again, nothing will happen to them. muehler can't touch them. thats why it is a request. if not reinforced by state and trump, it won't happen.

But it would show who provided the money for the loans. db was only an agent. they didn't loan their own money to trump. no bank would.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
11. My bet is on Mueller.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 08:38 AM
Dec 2017

He certainly knows this, and I’m betting he still has his reasons for doing this.

So far, he’s been spot on, and no one has been able to scoop his intentions. I’ll sit back and see how this part plays out with high anticipation.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
25. Deutsche Bank will find it to their advantage to comply
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 11:18 AM
Dec 2017

These people aren't stupid and they want to continue doing business in the US.



blaze

(6,362 posts)
17. Sounds like they already handed it over.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 09:18 AM
Dec 2017
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/05/donald-trump-bank-records-handed-over-robert-mueller?CMP=share_btn_tw

"Donald Trump’s personal banking information has formally been turned over to Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor who is investigating whether the president’s campaign conspired with the Kremlin during the 2016 presidential election.

Bloomberg reported early on Tuesday that Deutsche Bank, the German bank that serves as Trump’s biggest lender, had been forced to submit documents about its client relationship with the president after Mueller issued the bank with a subpoena for information.

The new revelation makes it clear that Mueller and his team are investigating the president’s financial transactions. It is not clear whether Mueller is interested in the bank accounts because they are connected to the Russia probe or if he is investigating another matter."

lark

(23,105 posts)
24. Thanks for sharing this.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 11:13 AM
Dec 2017

It's made my morning, seeing these 2 strong women getting along so well and being able to laugh together.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
3. Good! Keep digging Bob Mueller!
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 07:47 AM
Dec 2017

Expose how much in debt this treasonous poser is and how much the fucker owes Pootie and the Russian mob.

That's the core of this entire criminal conspiracy. Follow the dollars/rubles.



ancianita

(36,095 posts)
4. Deutsche Bank has been caught allowing mirror trading by Russians, is on the NYSE, so it will
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 07:48 AM
Dec 2017

likely cooperate since Mueller's IRS investigators have authority to trace money worldwide.

Here's a good history of the bank's activities:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/29/deutsche-banks-10-billion-scandal

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
9. Trump has had a lot of last political nails in his coffin but lets hope the accumulation will
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 08:34 AM
Dec 2017

finally hit home for the Republicans.



Amanda‏ @AmandaCass6

Trump's personal banking information handed over to Robert Mueller https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/05/donald-trump-bank-records-handed-over-robert-mueller?CMP=share_btn_tw … #ticktock #impeachTrump






Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
28. Doesn't work that way.
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:03 PM
Dec 2017

The US bank probably does not have the information that the SP is looking for. It's probably housed in Germany under their regulations.

lastlib

(23,248 posts)
15. Remember tRump's "red line" on Mueller?
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 08:53 AM
Dec 2017

Sounds like he's crossing it..... Question now is, will AnusMouth pull the trigger now, and risk a possible impeachment avalanche?

Watch this space, as Rachel says....

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
16. Maybe with a little pressure....
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 08:58 AM
Dec 2017

from Angela Merkel? Trump did not really endear himself to her, now did he?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
29. Here's the Handelsblatt article (in English); they think DB was eager to comply
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 12:48 PM
Dec 2017
Yet with Mr. Mueller’s subpoena, Deutsche Bank has no choice but to hand over records associated with the Trump clan, lest it be held in contempt of court. For the bank, it’s a chance to move past its Trump troubles and away from protracted political battles. It should come as little surprise, then, that some in Deutsche Bank’s executive suite actually wanted the special counsel to serve them. They certainly saw it coming: Observers had been speculating since the summer that Mr. Mueller would eventually call on Deutsche Bank.

There’s ample incentive for the bank to act quickly, particularly as the special counsel’s investigation appears to be heating up. On Friday, President Trump’s former national security advisor, Michael Flynn, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI in January about meetings with Russia’s ambassador to the US, Sergey Kislyak. Mr. Flynn also made it known that he is cooperating with investigators, a potentially worrisome development for Mr. Trump’s team. Multiple US media outlets cited sources who said Mr. Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, had instructed Mr. Flynn to contact the Russian diplomat.

Deutsche Bank is eager to avoid becoming further embroiled in Mr. Mueller’s investigation. After all, the bank is facing its own problems over business dealings in Russia. Regulators there and in Germany, the UK, and the US, have faulted the bank for lax enforcement of anti-money laundering controls, in light of a series of transfers of Russian money to foreign accounts. While it has yet to resolve the matter with the US Justice Department, Deutsche Bank agreed to pay New York’s Department of Financial Services more than $400 million (€337 million) and hire an independent monitor for a two-year period. The bank has also reached a settlement with Britain’s Financial Conduct Authority for a £163 million (€184 million) penalty.

Many of Mr. Trump’s critics believe there might be more to the story and ultimately worry that the president could make sure regulators go easy on the bank. A letter to Deutsche Bank from the Finance Committee of the House of Representatives, led by ranking Democrat Maxine Waters, further fueled suspicions of a connection between Mr. Trump and the bank’s Russian money-laundering scandal. No such connection has been proven. But it’s clear nonetheless that the US president will continue to create headaches for Deutsche Bank.

https://global.handelsblatt.com/finance/muellers-trump-russia-investigation-engulfs-deutsche-bank-861185?ref=MTA5NDE2&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=post

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
32. Deutsche Bank is also tied into the Prevezon money laundering case...
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 04:36 PM
Dec 2017

under investigation by Preet Bharara before he was fired by Trump and then the case dropped by the Justice Dept. Although the Trump Org may not be tied to Prevezon, Kushner may be. The dropping of this case may be part of the Quid Pro Quo arranged through Russian lawyers and Prevezon reps at the Trump Tower meeting.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
33. Trump lawyer: Deutsche Bank has not received subpoena for Trump records
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 05:30 PM
Dec 2017
A lawyer for U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that Deutsche Bank has not received any subpoena for financial records relating to the president or his family as part of the special counsel’s Russia probe.

“We have confirmed that the news reports that the Special Counsel had subpoenaed financial records relating to the president are false,” Sekulow told Reuters in a statement. “No subpoena has been issued or received. We have confirmed this with the bank and other sources.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-trump-deutsche-bank-sekulow/trump-lawyer-deutsche-bank-has-not-received-subpoena-for-trump-records-idUSL1N1O51ZZ

Note that the original report says:

It remains unclear whether Mr. Mueller requested information on President Trump’s own business dealings with Deutsche Bank or on those of people close to him.

https://global.handelsblatt.com/finance/muellers-trump-russia-investigation-engulfs-deutsche-bank-861185?ref=MTA5NDE2&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=post

so the carefully worded denial from the lawyer is not saying there were no subpoenas at all, just that they weren't for the president or his family. A Trump company is not, of course, a member of his family.
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