UPDATED: Al Franken announces he will resign from the Senate
Source: The Washington Post
By Ed O'Keefe, Elise Viebeck and Karen Tumulty December 7 at 11:58 AM
Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) announced on the Senate floor Thursday that he is resigning in the coming weeks following multiple allegations that he sexually harassed women.
Frankens decision comes a day after a majority of Senate Democrats called for his resignation after determining that they could no longer tolerate his presence.
They turned on one of their partys most popular figures with stunning swiftness, led by the Senates Democratic women, who were joined in short order by more than half of the Democratic caucus.
Franken struck a defiant tone during his remarks on the Senate floor.
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UPDATE:
BREAKING: Franken Resigns In Emotional Speech, Denies Some Allegations
By ALICE OLLSTEIN Published DECEMBER 7, 2017 11:56 AM
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After eight women came forward to accuse him of sexual harassment over the past few weeks, Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) took to the Senate floor Thursday morning announcing his resignation from his Senate in the coming weeks.
Serving in the United States Senate has been the honor of my life, Franken said, choking up as he read his remarks, and vowing to stay active in public life. I may be resigning my seat, but Im not giving up my voice.
With his staff lining the wall of the Senate chamber, waving at him in support, and several of his Democratic colleagues watching his remarks with grim expressions, Franken noted that all women deserve to be heard and their experiences taken seriously, but defiantly claimed that some of the allegations against him are simply not true.
Of his previous apologies, Franken said: I think it gave some people the false impression that I was admitting to doing things that, in fact, I havent done. Some of the allegations against me are simply not true. Others I remember very different.
I know who I really am, he declared.
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rainin
(3,011 posts)He's leaving but he says he won't stop fighting. Today was the day to fight. I don't blame him, I blame the Dems who went after him without making his resignation contingent upon the resignation of Trump or the removal of Moore, if he wins. Great job Dems! You really know how to get people to vote?
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)Besides... if Moore actually wins next week, I'd prefer that Republicans not be able to dodge the issue by kicking him out (allowing the governor to appoint yet another republican until the next special election makes it permanent).
rainin
(3,011 posts)sandensea
(21,636 posts)They stand by their own, you gotta give'em that.
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)FBaggins
(26,748 posts)Not just delivery... but what punches at the opposition!
And I am betting his replacement will not be seated if mcturtle has his way
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)to a republican in 2018. Franken barey won in 2008
riversedge
(70,242 posts)wisteria
(19,581 posts)orleans
(34,056 posts)and so pissed/disgusted at those dem senators who called for him to resign
eissa
(4,238 posts)Make Al the sacrificial lamb while the other side laughs its ass off. Fuck Tom Perez, Kristin Gillibrand, and every holier-than-thou piece of shit for taking away one of our strongest voices in the Senate based on flimsy, mostly anonymous, accusers. I'm fucking tired of "going high."
hamsterjill
(15,221 posts)We cannot continue to "go high" when our opponent operates in the gutter. We're going to have to get down and dirty with them in order to properly engage and do battle.
And I want to WIN for a change.
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)harun
(11,348 posts)Ever
califootman
(120 posts)...that railroading is NOT "going high"! If the Dems wanted to go high, they should have followed due process and let the Senate Ethics Committee investigate.
wisteria
(19,581 posts)Luciferous
(6,081 posts)R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Every bit of it. There is no excuse for this.
rainin
(3,011 posts)Thanks Dems for kicking out one of your best. Glad we can keep the compliant ones, the ones who are better at not making waves, the ones who don't challenge the Republicans or call Trump out, except in diplomatic speak - not naming names, our friends on the other side of the aisle...blah blah blah.
Thanks!
Aviation Pro
(12,172 posts)Versus Republicants?
How many Democratic members of Congress are women? Answer 15D Senate, 62D House.
How many Republicant members of Congress are women? Answer 5R Senate, 21R House.
earthside
(6,960 posts)The Trumpians will be agitating for accusers to accuse.
And how will Senate Democrats argue that the 'Franken standard' not apply to all accused?
Sen. Gillibrand has been satisfied and now expulsion is apparently the only acceptable 'punishment' for these transgressions.
Democrats don't look morally courageous today, they look like a fearful cadre who would rather have mob rule than due process.
CanonRay
(14,104 posts)Lonestarblue
(10,011 posts)I watched the speech and I am saddened at this decision. I believe it is a huge mistake. A recent poll showed that 71% of millenials want a third party. In spite of recent Democratic wins, I do not believe that we will see Democrats retake the majority in either the House or the Senate in 2018 (though I fervently hope Im wrong!). Republicans feel free to run candidates like Roy Moore because they know there are voters who will never vote for anyone but a Republican no matter what he or she has done. Democrats insist on a level of purity that rarely existsand if it does exist, Republicans will smear those candidates with fake allegations. Theyve just learned that anonymous allegations of sexual assault work against Democrats (but Republicans cant be smeared in the same wayjust fake news). This tactic is now part of their playbook. Democrats will continue to win for awhile in blue states, but even this oldster is beginning to join the millenials and wish for a viable third party. I think it will happen.
wisteria
(19,581 posts)The Democrats dont really fight for anything or anyone , they sit around a hope the other partys candidate is worse than ours. There are no stars, or even likable people left. And, if Gillibrand is going to lead the womens march, I say no thank you. She probably has just managed to set women back by years.
Demit
(11,238 posts)I don't know who the Dems think is going to give them brownie points, but it's not the GOP, it's not independent voters, and it's not the base. Creating a scapegoat on such flimsy charges will not advance the #metoo cause in any way, plus it's giving the finger to due process. Bad bad bad move.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)"They turned on one of their partys most popular figures with stunning swiftness"
old guy
(3,283 posts)Today the music died again.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Once again, they've waved their shiny object and screwed the opposition.
I'm totally sick and disgusted.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Using Dems as SUCKERS and they took the bait hook,line and sinker. Now for the next one...........
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)I was happy in the fact that I had Franken represent me as my Senator. This witch hunt pretty much signals we are a fascist state now (not that it wasn't there already for the most part)
Let the oligarchy continue, long live the representative republic for the corporations. Who would want to stick their neck out anymore for the Democrats? Knowing this will be the result for even the most transparent of fake horseshit "allegations?"
Nope. As far as "morals and high ground" goes, yeah. I have that. And guess fuckin' what- having a lynch mob mentality like this lacks that moral high ground, it's merely enabling fascism. What complete and utter shamefulness.
Franken called for an investigation himself! Knowing full well the allegations were flimsy, I am sure. The immediate bandwagon witch hunt was a shameful move, and shows what kind of country/party we are now. It is not looking good, is it? Nope.
If there had been an investigation, he'd be there, if only Dems had some spines to let it play out. Expose the baloney. Nahhh can't have that. Look forward to more of the same, and worse.
So, who is next? Remember, any anonymous allegations must be true, if there's a bunch of em right? Absolutely, utterly shameful.
Muneravenmn
(12 posts)Three things sunk Franken: The photo, his mishandling of allegations he says were false, and just the newness of this new environment where men are being called out for behaviors that were previously accepted.
The photo just flat-out was embarrassing as heck, and he was way past the age where that kind of thing was funny.
He didnt come out and fight further allegations strongly. He was worried about disrespecting women, but women who lie deserve no respect. His saying I dont remember made many people wonder how a guy couldnt be SURE he didnt grab women inappropriately. He bungled responding to the further charges.
And everyone is trying to understand how to handle this stuff. Women are just discovering that ALL their friends have stories and that it wasnt just them, and they are angry. They are angry with the injustice of decades of hurt and shame and fear and anger. Men must feel like reality is shifting like it did in The Matrix.
Did Franken get a fair shake? Well, I think if all this hadnt happened at this moment, he should have been embarrassed by the photo and scolded, but not kicked out. But in this weird moment? It was the right thing to step aside. He lost his effectiveness in this moment in time.
I will always like him. People make mistakes, and he owned his. But I believe that the future of the Democratic Party is female-led, and younger, so I wont despair over the Party because Franken resigned.
Steerpike
(2,692 posts)Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit,
Muneravenmn
(12 posts)That you cant discuss something rationally just makes you Trump-like.
I stated my opinion calmly and without insulting anyone.
You are just an angry, ranting, part of the problem. That you wear a blue hat doesnt exempt you.
Steerpike
(2,692 posts)at least i don't throw dems under the bus in a knee jerk reaction I call bullshit....
Muneravenmn
(12 posts)Screaming the word bullshit over and over at me because you disagree with my ideas is decidedly Trump-like. If you dont want to be called that, then respond to posts you disagree with by crafting a civil response rather than a tantrum.
I mean, honestly, can you not see how perfectly you would fit in at a Trump rally when you act like that? How are you that different from the fools chanting lock her up? Its the same raging, unthinking response to ideas you dont like.
You and I probably believe a lot of the same things given that we are both here. If we cant disagree civilly then something is truly wrong. I put an opinion out there. I will respectfully read your opinions but typing bullshit over and over isnt stating an opinion, its a simple online insult.
Women are just now discovering. Really? What sunk Franken was a lynch mob of Democratic women who fell hook line and sinker for the ramblings of a wannabe actress friend of Hannity and Trump Jr. Makes it perfectly clear why the diagnosis of "hysterical" was used a lot in the past.
Muneravenmn
(12 posts)You quote a Republican shill and say the women were a lynch mob. The women. Even though there were plenty of men involved in calling for Franken to step down.
Those uppity women. How dare they.
And yes, tons of women are saying I didnt know it was so widespread and I thought it was just me and You, too? Why does that shock you?
Yeah, this is one of those sea change cultural moments for both women and men. And women are trying to negotiate these changes just like men.
I am sorry Al Franken is leaving, but I think he is doing the right thing. You are totally free to disagree. You may have valid points to argue against me. But quoting a Republican and calling Democratic women a lynch mob is nutty. If all you have is that, you have nothing to say.
Steerpike
(2,692 posts)or are you just prone to the destruction of the democratic party?
Muneravenmn
(12 posts)Im sorry you cant disagree without getting into someones personal life.
Losing Franken isnt going to destroy the Democratic Party. But acting just like gleefully angry Republicans spewing outrage everywhere might. I think the Dems have a whole lot more to fear from you than from me.
And by the way: My personal life is stellar, thanks. I am bad at many things, but I am top notch when it comes to a happy personal life. Thanks for asking.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)I think the democratic Senators asking for him to resign did it.
Those Senators will have zero cred if they don't come out for Trump to resign. People will remember those Senators. If they try to run for higher office.
wisteria
(19,581 posts)That and the leaders of this lynch mob, will get you know where.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)all the franken must resign people? Happy now? This was a goddamn lynching. can't say anymore since the 'bitter fruit' is swinging in the metaphorical tree. SAD.
justgamma
(3,666 posts)I've already cancelled my contributions. Dems just don't know when or how to fight.
Oth, Franken will stay for a few weeks. Long enough to fight for us. Long enough to let this bs die down. Maybe long enough to change his mind. We still have time to fight for him.
sprinkleeninow
(20,250 posts)groundloop
(11,519 posts)I'm referring, of course, to the current Georgia Governor Nathan Deal who resigned his seat in Congress in order to avoid an ethics investigation and managed to get elected to the governorship.
Deal was as dirty and unscrupulous as they come, whereas Senator Franken was a true voice for working Americans. I'm certain Senator Franken was railroaded and IMO shouldn't have resigned and let the ethics investigation look into allegations against him. Also, the allegations against Senator Franken come nowhere close to a man in his 30s taking advantage of teenage girls. And just watch, if somehow we manage to elect Crazy Roy he'll be welcomed by his new repub colleagues because he'll reliably vote with them.
IronLionZion
(45,450 posts)Stuart G
(38,434 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)RussBLib
(9,019 posts)but he won't resign, and his party won't abandon him.
So Dems take the high ground, and get crushed again.
kwalter66
(80 posts)A literal BIG GOP'er, yet not a peep. What a joke this is. Nothing like rolling over EVERY SINGLE TIME! And then wonder why you are the MINORITY party.
bluestarone
(16,972 posts)there's gotta be MORE to this story!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cannot believe he would do this with the way it's standing now?????????? SOMETHING SMELLS BAD
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)but then, why not come out with it to avoid all the dissention that was sure to follow the lack of due process?
bluestarone
(16,972 posts)this is how i feel
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Couldn't sleep last night over this debacle.
You did lose your voice and so did millions of Americans. This is a very sad day. One Republican supermajority coming right up.
tavernier
(12,392 posts)What a cockamamie, stupid thing to do!!!
Im seriously thinking about going independent because this is just too embarrassing.