Roy Moore Believes America Was Great During Slavery.

[TomCADem]

Source: Huffington Post

GOP Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore stunned some listeners when he said he thought America was “great” during the era of slavery. Though he made the comments at a campaign rally in Florence, Alabama, more than two months ago, they’ve re-emerged in a viral tweet just days before the election.

Back in September, one of the few African-Americans in the crowd asked the candidate when he thought was the “last time” America was great.

“I think it was great at the time when families were united. Even though we had slavery, they cared for one another. ... Our families were strong, our country had a direction,” Moore responded, according to a Los Angeles Times report in September. At the same rally, he also referred to Native Americans and Asians as “reds and yellows,” the LA Times reported.

Moore’s comments resurfaced Thursday in a tweet by Eric Columbus, who served in the departments of Justice and Homeland Security during the Obama administration. Columbus linked to the LA Times story, saying, “Can’t make this up.” His message was retweeted thousands of times.

Read more: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-moore-slavery-twitter-response_us_5a29d45be4b069ec48ac1aae?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

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Wow. Just wow.

While we get trolled bombed by folks claiming that they are going to leave the Democratic party because Franken is resigning because he felt at liberty to touch women inappropriately, there is a large segment of folks who strongly support turning back the clock to the days when we had slavery, and who think that molesting teens is okay.

[bagelsforbreakfast]

1. And Gillibrand and the others are silent on Moore and Trump! Nm

[TomCADem]

2. Kirsten Gillibrand: Has Trump kept his promises? 'F--k no'

Um no. Thanks for playing comrade...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/kirsten-gillibrand-has-trump-kept-his-promises-f-k-no/article/2625490

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., laid into President Trump Friday and used some choice language while discussing how he is doing in keeping his promises.

"Has he kept any of these promises? No. Fuck no," she told the Personal Democracy Forum in New York. "Sorry, I understand this is a younger audience. It's OK."

At another point, Gillibrand said what Democrats should do if they're not trying to help people.

"And even though us as Democrats are on the right side of almost all issues, many hardworking families just haven't felt that we are fighting for them," Gillibrand said. "Fundamentally, if we are not helping people, we should go the fuck home."

[NanceGreggs]

5. Gillibrand also declared ...

... after hearing the accusations against Franken, that "enough is enough".

Why was enough NOT enough when Trump bragged about grabbing pussies?

Why did the accusations against Franken - unproven and largely not credible - prompt her "enough is enough" tirade, while the accusations against Trump and Moore failed to do so?

[TomCADem]

8. Kirsten Gillibrand Says Jeff Sessions Shouldnt Be Attorney General If He Doesnt Understand Sexual

Again, I stand ready to defend Democrats as folks try to turn a thread on Roy Moore as an attack on Democrats. Bring it on trolls. If you want to try to argue that Democrats are secretly supporting Trump or that there is no difference between the parties, I am ready to go.

https://www.thecut.com/2016/11/kirsten-gillibrand-donald-trump-shouldnt-have-been-elected.html

So, as she told WNYC in an interview Monday, she was somewhat mystified by Donald Trump’s pick of Jeff Sessions — someone who does not appear to have a basic understanding of sexual assault — as Attorney General. Sessions stood by Trump after his comments on Access Hollywood were released; when a reporter asked how he’d describe Trump’s words, Sessions answered, “I don’t characterize that as sexual assault. I think that’s a stretch.” On WNYC, Gillibrand said she has doubts as to whether Sessions is the best man for his post.

“I have very grave concerns about Senator Sessions as the head of the Department of Justice,” Gillibrand told WNYC. “And I will of course pay attention to his hearings, and I will of course give him the opportunity to speak out about what kind of a head of the department he’s going to be. But I have to say, those comments are so offensive, and so dangerous. And if he doesn’t understand the basics of what sexual assault is, I don’t know how he can be attorney general. Because, honestly, that’s one of the attorney general’s jobs.

“He has a real role in this. And if he doesn’t understand the basic tenets of what sexual assault is, then I don’t think he has the background and knowledge he will need to be attorney general.”

She added that Trump’s comments should’ve disqualified him from the presidency in the first place. “Somebody who’s bragging about sexually assaulting women should really never be elected to be president of the United States,” she said. “It is not locker-room talk. It is criminal behavior.”

[NanceGreggs]

10. And yet ...

... it was the accusations against Franken that triggered the outcry that "enough is enough".

Try sticking to the subject, instead of trying to change it.

Why was enough not enough long before Franken was ever accused of anything?

And why did you say that Franken is resigning "because he felt at liberty to touch women inappropriately", when he never expressed nor admitted to anything remotely like that?

[TomCADem]

11. Roy Moore Believes America Was Great During Slavery.

I agree. Lets try sticking to the subject. Consider the OP. Did not mention Gillibrand.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=edit&forum=1014&thread=1934264

GOP Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore stunned some listeners when he said he thought America was “great” during the era of slavery. Though he made the comments at a campaign rally in Florence, Alabama, more than two months ago, they’ve re-emerged in a viral tweet just days before the election.

Back in September, one of the few African-Americans in the crowd asked the candidate when he thought was the “last time” America was great.

“I think it was great at the time when families were united. Even though we had slavery, they cared for one another. ... Our families were strong, our country had a direction,” Moore responded, according to a Los Angeles Times report in September. At the same rally, he also referred to Native Americans and Asians as “reds and yellows,” the LA Times reported.

Moore’s comments resurfaced Thursday in a tweet by Eric Columbus, who served in the departments of Justice and Homeland Security during the Obama administration. Columbus linked to the LA Times story, saying, “Can’t make this up.” His message was retweeted thousands of times.

[NanceGreggs]

14. The OP also included ...

... your assertion that "Franken is resigning because he felt at liberty to touch women inappropriately."

I asked why you said that, when Franken himself has never expressed any such sentiment.

If you can't answer that, you can't answer. Just say so.

[whathehell]

17. Yeah, I'm sure that Gillibrand is a real Trump supporter..

Do I need the sarcasm thingy?

Look, we know many here (self included) are pissed at her and ALL those who routed Franken, but please don't go down the false
conflation route.

[Doodley]

20. This thread has nothing to do with Franken. You are acting like a troll.

[bagelsforbreakfast]

22. Nice flame attempt - comrade youself

[Doodley]

19. Not true. Please stop falsely attacking Democrats.

[NanceGreggs]

3. "Franken is resigning because ...

... he felt at liberty to touch women inappropriately"?

When did Franken say he'd done any such thing? He has denied all such allegations, and yet you've assumed he is guilty.

Franken resigned because some of his own party members decided to throw him on the sacrificial pyre in hopes of appeasing the GOP gods.

The fact that you are attributing motives to Franken's resignation that he never expressed speaks volumes.

[Doodley]

21. Please stop attacking other Democrats and defending Franken, who has stated that millions of women

could feel violated by his own disgusting behavior:


"The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.

SNIP

"For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/al-franken-apology/index.html

[bagelsforbreakfast]

25. All Franken is a Democrat. Please stop attacking democrats it supposed to be against the rules. Esp

Via anonymous accusers. There is a concept called due process.

[NanceGreggs]

33. I'm not attacking anyone.

I've asked several times for you to explain what was written in your own OP. You can keep posting all the links you want - you still haven't answered the question.

Where did Franken ever say that "he felt at liberty to touch women inappropriately", or that was he was resigning on that basis?

He never expressed anything remotely like that - and you know it.

[msongs]

4. senator gillibrand calls for trump to resign. not according to a google search nt

[TomCADem]

6. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand: 'I believe we should look into obstruction of justice'

Not sure how this Roy Moore OP is getting hijacked by those trying to attack Democrats, but go ahead and bring it if you want to make the argument that Democrats are Trump enablers. Which Democrat do you want to attack next?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/gillibrand-axe-files/index.html

(CNN)As bombshell reports about the circumstances of former FBI director James Comey's firing continue to rock the White House, Democratic lawmakers have increasingly said it's starting to sound like President Trump may have obstructed justice. But the appointment of Robert Mueller as a special counsel won't get at the root problem of Russian meddling into the US, according to New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand.

"I believe we should look into obstruction of justice," Gillibrand told David Axelrod on The Axe Files, a podcast from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN. "I think this is a serious concern to be firing a FBI director in the middle of an investigation that relates to you and your administration."

Gillibrand called Comey's unexpected dismissal by President Donald Trump on May 9 "so shocking." Moreover, she said the spate of allegations that have come to light in the meantime-- that Trump reportedly asked Comey to drop the Flynn investigation, that Trump reportedly told Russian officials that "great pressure" had been "taken off" because of the firing -- further indicate the need for an investigation into whether the President committed obstruction of justice.
"It's hugely problematic" if these reports are true, Gillibrand said. "These are horrible things and they all sound like obstruction of justice."

[SHRED]

7. And Moore will be seated

And Franken resigns.

Way to go Gillibrand.

[TomCADem]

9. Gillibrand leads in no votes against Trumps nominees

Blaming a woman for inappropriate touching by a man. Are you sure are in the right forum? Who are you going to attack next? Bernie, Kamala?

i know the trolls will be out to try to gin up attacks against Democrats from the "left" and I am ready to defend my party and those fighting for the American people. If you think the problem is the Democrats, then you are on the wrong board.

I did not mention Gillibrand in the original post, but if folks want to hijack and attack Dems, I am ready to fight the trolls.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/11/gillibrand-leads-no-votes-against-trumps-nominees/100345510/

WASHINGTON - Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand doesn’t think much of President Trump’s nominees.

New York’s junior senator so far has opposed more nominees than any other senator, voting to confirm only three out of 25, according to a USA TODAY analysis of votes compiled by GovTrack. That’s one more “no” vote than several of the chamber’s most liberal members.

Gillibrand, who is in New York this week during the Senate’s spring recess, said she evaluates nominees on their individual merits, but many fell short.

“For many of them, I found them to be either unqualified or so far outside my world view and what I think is important and my view of morality that I had to vote against them,” she said in an interview.

[getagrip_already]

29. bernie is NOT a democrat...

therefore, he is fair game to attack. He changed his party affiliation moments after he lost the primary.

He is an ass and should just go away.

[area51]

12. Roy Moore "said he thought America was 'great' during the era of slavery"

and "also referred to Native Americans and Asians as 'reds and yellows,'". Quelle surprise. Yet he stands a good chance of getting elected.

[TomCADem]

13. Roy Moore Would Be Nothing If A Lot of People Did Not Agree With Him...

...otherwise, he would just be another pedophile racist. However, the Republican party set the stage for Trump and Trump helped normalize racism and sexism such that Roy Moore stands on the verge of winning. The focus should not be on changing the Democratic party, but being willing to confront the racist and sexist views held by so many of our neighbors.

The reality we need to face is that many, many people hold these views that are hateful of minorities and mysogynistic toward women.

[get the red out]

15. + 1

Nothing Dems can do to attract votes from anyone who would vote for someone with views like Moore (even if he hadn't molested teenagers). Dems could cave on all human rights issues and they still wouldn't get these voters because the Rs have already proven their support of racism, misogyny, and xenophobia.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

16. So right... no "can do" or "should do"... talk about deplorables!

[djacq]

18. No Wonder Trump, Roy Moore, and Steve Bannon are all BFFs

Make America Great Again when white privileged was in it's height and glory; Slavery.

Republicans. You truly own this.

[heaven05]

23. Hell

I wish I knew what percentage of his state residents agree with him, oh never mind, we'll see TUESDAY

[Paladin]

24. "Even though WE HAD SLAVERY....."

Choice of words is everything.

[getagrip_already]

30. we still have slavery...

It's called the criminal/penal justice system. Once the altists get around to criminal justice "reform", you can expect a monitization of these new found slaves. It will make chain gangs look like day care. Work hard or die.

[doc03]

26. Wow Roy Moore says America was great when we had slavery and it

deteriorates into an Al Franken argument.. WTF is a matter with you people?

[Aristus]

27. Of course it was great for people like you, you hamhock!

You could sit your lazy white ass down, have a mint julep, and fan yourself while other people did your work for you for no compensation!

[safeinOhio]

28. It might work again for Alabama, only if

we make White folks in Alabama the slaves and people of color the masters.

[Aristus]

31. I'll drink to that!

I'm not down with slavery on principle, but if these idiots got a taste of what they called a cherished institution, they might not love it so much...

[GaryCnf]

32. Talking about what trolls and bots are saying seems curiously like

an excuse to ignore the disaster we are creating by placating the small percentage of Democrats who believe

(a) sexually assaulting a 14 year-old girl and touching a female on the butt in a non-coercive public setting are on the same "sexual harassment/misogyny" continuum;

(b) anything on that continuum demands the end of a Democrat's political career because we have to show women that we "stand with them" because women are a key Democratic Party demographic; and,

(c) that anything even vaguely resembling a majority of women voters share their opinion(s) notwithstanding the fact that a majority of women voted for Trump.

It's not about leaving the party. It's about restoring common sense.