Document Expert: Roy Moore Signed Yearbook of Accuser

[DonViejo]

Source: Newsweek Magazine



ROY MOORE SIGNED YEARBOOK OF WOMAN HE ALLEGEDLY SEXUALLY ASSAULTED AS A TEEN, DOCUMENT EXPERT SAYS

BY JOHN HALTIWANGER ON 12/8/17 AT 4:59 PM

Alabama GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore signed the yearbook of a woman who accused him of sexually assaulting her when she was a teenager, according to a report from a forensic document expert obtained by Newsweek from the woman's attorney.

The expert, Arthur T. Anthony, compared public documents with Moore's handwriting and signature to the yearbook inscription as well as a graduation card Moore sent to another woman recently reported by The Washington Post. In the report, Anthony wrote, "It is my professional opinion...that the signature and handwritten notation above the signature...were prepared by Roy Moore."

Below are images of the yearbook inscription allegedly signed by Moore and one of the public documents featured in Anthony's report. The inscription states: "To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say Merry Christmas. Christmas 1977. Love, Roy Moore, DA. 12-22-77 Olde Hickory House."




In November, Beverly Young Nelson accused Moore of assaulting her in the 1970s when she was a teen and he was in his 30s. Nelson and her lawyer, Gloria Allred, pointed to the yearbook inscription to bolster the allegation.

Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/roy-moore-signed-yearbook-woman-he-allegedly-sexual-assaulted-teen-document-743091

[pnwmom]

1. Yeah, the second woman's note -- the one in the scrap album -- did it for me. n/t

[iluvtennis]

6. And me too. I'm no expert, but those two signatures looked alike. Now we have the expert evidence

[riversedge]

2. k for visibility

[Mrs. Overall]

3. Of course he did. She told the truth. He lied.

[Achilleaze]

4. No doubt. Moore is a republican liar & pedophile

...just like Comrade Casino, the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief.

Sad & sickening to see how the republican party has degenerated so pathetically.

[SummerSnow]

5. and a racist. This is the 21st century rethuglican values

[Sunlei]

7. The Mother wittnessed Moore luring her daughter from his courthouse DA job while he pretended to

'babysat' the child when the Mom was in court. Wonder how many children he's lured from "work"?

[7962]

8. But she screwed up. SHE wrote additional notes and Gloria Allred didn't release that info

She's just ruined her credibility even though moore did sign the book
Gloria Allred is a publicity hound who should be disbarred for this kind of shit.
And it will hurt the other women too even though they don't even KNOW this woman

[DonViejo]

9. Those "additional notes" have just been proven...

inconsequential by this analysis.

[EL34x4]

10. Doesnt matter. She lied and cast doubt on her entire claim.

And not only hers but Moore’s other accusers.

And FWIW, I think she scribbled “Moore” and “D.A.” In there as well.

[Kaleva]

12. That's the arguement the Freepers are making.

They say she forged his signature and title.

[EL34x4]

13. If they're making that argument, it's because that's what it looks like.

If the Freepers said the sky was blue, I wouldn't argue it was green just because they're Freepers.

Someone needs to ask Nelson straight up, "Yes or no. Did you write "Moore" at the end of that signature? Yes or No." because it looks different.



I've consistently had a problem with this signature. It just didn't pass the smell test and I called Allred out on several threads for showing up in front of the TV cameras with this lousy yearbook story that has now sullied the more legitimate claims against Roy Moore.

And I was flame-roasted because of it.

[Kaleva]

14. Chromatic abberation

"In optics, chromatic aberration (abbreviated CA; also called chromatic distortion and spherochromatism) is an effect resulting from dispersion in which there is a failure of a lens to focus all colors to the same convergence point.[1] It occurs because lenses have different refractive indices for different wavelengths of light. The refractive index of transparent materials decreases with increasing wavelength in degrees unique to each.[2]

Chromatic aberration manifests itself as "fringes" of color along boundaries that separate dark and bright parts of the image, because each color in the optical spectrum cannot be focused at a single common point. Since the focal length f of a lens is dependent on the refractive index n, different wavelengths of light will be focused on different positions."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_aberration



Photos of the yearbook signing taken straight on show one color.

[EL34x4]

16. It's more than just the ink. Anyhow, it's a moot point. Allred isn't letting anyone look at...

...the yearbook and Moore is probably going to win on Tuesday.

[Kaleva]

17. The OP is about a forensic expert who looked at the yearbook

[EL34x4]

19. Yeah, according to Allred.

She won't let anyone else look at it. We're supposed to simply take her word that an "expert" looked at it and deemed it authentic. And we already learned that the woman she's representing forged part of it. So yeah, little surprise Moore's supporters are doing their happy dance today.

Allred needs to take her fake yearbook and just go away. She's done more harm than good here. And when Moore wins, he ought to send her some flowers.

[greyl]

20. "She won't let anyone else look at it." Are you goddamn joking? nt

[Kaleva]

23. You really are trying to push the Pro Moore narrative here

Your words:

"And we already learned that the woman she's representing forged part of it"

Even Fox News backed off from the forgery charge. But the Freepers are running with it. Why are you?

Your words:

" We're supposed to simply take her word that an "expert" looked at it and deemed it authentic."

Arthur T. Anthony is a member of The American Society of Questioned Document Examiners and is certified by American Board of Forensic Document Examiners.

http://www.asqde.org/experts/forensic_document_examiners_state.html

Your words:

"Allred needs to take her fake yearbook and just go away."

What is your evidence that the yearbook is fake? I bet you don't have anything as the "evidence" you tried to push in post #12 is easily explained as chromatic aberration and probably also because you couldn't explain why the photos of the yearbook signing taken straight on and not at an angle show the ink used to be all black with no variation in color or shade.

Your words:

"She won't let anyone else look at it."

Here's a statement made by Moore's attorney, Phillip Jauregui:

""Until they release the yearbook, all we know is, they're not telling the truth and they've lied," he said."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-roy-moore-yearbook-20171208-story.html

You've taken the same position as Moore's attorney.

[greyl]

18. That's pathetic as fuck.

There is a gradient of apparent ink color across the entire area, not a discrete separation between 2 ink colors. The orange line only indicates an angle 90%(loosely) to the direction of the gradient.

[7962]

24. Amen! ANY critical analysis gets flamed if it doesn't "toe the line"

Look at how many instantly cried "setup!" when the Conyers allegations first came out. I got blasted for mentioning the taxpayer money payoff.
Its hypocrisy and its blatant.

As soon as Allred became involved I became suspicious. She's bad news wherever she goes and she's made a ton of money off of it

[Kaleva]

26. I don't think you know what critical analysis means.

Here is one person's definition:

"Basically, analysis breaks down the subject and provides a detailed understanding of the subject, critical analysis provides the insight of that subject it evaluates the information found after the analysis and comment is where we express our views on the conclusion arrived after the analysis and the critical analysis."

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-analysis-critical-analysis-and-comment

What you are praising is what many refer to as "Flinging shit in the hope something sticks."

Note the difference.

[7962]

29. Another definition is "the opinion of the writer".

I know you've seen what we're talking about; not just about this particular subject. The Conyers issue was my example. I was told there had been no admission from Conyers and I had no proof of taxpayer money used. neither of which was true.
I'm biased in favor of my side, yes, but I'm also not going to give them any preferential treatment simply because they're ON "my" side. When they're wrong, they're wrong. I keep hearing that only Dems are being punished for these issues, yet so far I've seen 2 GOP reps either resign or say they're out. And probably another soon. Of course the arrogant Moore isn't one of them, but he'll be a hilarious albatross around the neck of the GOP and a total embarrassment for the entire time he's there.

[Kaleva]

31. I think Conyer's resigning was the right thing to do.

And I think Franken's decision to resign was also correct.

So maybe we agree more then disagree.

[Akoto]

11. Pretty clear to see. The M in Moore is very pronounced, and in exactly the same way. n/t

[Maeve]

15. Of F***ING COURSE IT WAS!!!!!!

She added the notes for remembrance sake, but HE SIGNED IT!!!!

[BigmanPigman]

21. I have told people for over 15 years that I am

a master at deciphering handwriting and printing since I have had to compare students' writing as a teacher when reading and grading their work...especially when they leave their name off of their assignment or test and I have to figure out whose it is by comparing the writing of other kids.

Look at the "ay" in "say" and the "ore" in "more"...this is definately 100% Moore's writing.

[7962]

25. See post #13

[Kaleva]

27. See post #14

And also look at the picture in the OP.

You may ask yourself "What happened to the writing in blue ink that one sees in the picture in post #13?" For the answer to that, refer to post #14.

Don't feel bad. Many people got suckered by the pic shown in post #13.

[7962]

28. But she admitted adding comments; the writing looks the same to me.

NOT an expert, but she's still blown her credibility by not telling us that to start with.
That and hiring Allred.
Why couldn't she have shown the damn yearbook and said "heres where he signed my book. I added this to it". Done. But nooooooooo.

[Kaleva]

30. How does that blow her credibility?

A respected and certified expert said it was Moore's signature. But Moore claims to not know the woman or the restaurant. Two other women, other then Beverly Nelson, say that Moore was a regular customer there. Moore's wife has argued that the Olde Hickory House restaurant didn't even exist back in 1977 but that was easily refuted by many.

Moore, his wife, his campaign and supporters have tossed out lie after lie in an effort to undermine his accusers.

Who do you think lacks credibility? Moore or his multiple accusers?

Edit: I'm reading your other posts and maybe we agree more then I initially thought. I apologize for my attitude.

[7962]

32. No apology needed!! But thank you. We're just having a discussion!

If Moore wins, its gonna be a shit show because he's SO full of himself. And most of the GOP Senators know it & are dreading the future.
I can't wait to see him introduce a bill to quarantine all gays or something equally stupid. Oh, the headlines that will be coming. he really is going to be a gift for '18 I think

[Kaleva]

33. Either way, we win I believe.

If he loses the election on the 12th, it's a big slap in the face for Trump and Repubs plus it narrows the gap in the Senate. If he wins, it's to our benefit because he's so whacko and as you say, it will be a gift for '18.

Thanks for the interesting discussion but I have to sign off now and get some chores done before the wife gets home!