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riversedge

(70,220 posts)
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:07 PM Dec 2017

2 days away, Republicans still don't have a plan to avoid shutdown

Source: cnn



By Deirdre Walsh, Lauren Fox and Ashley Killough, CNN

Updated 7:03 AM ET, Thu December 21, 2017


Washington (CNN)As House Republicans spilled out of a closed-door meeting Wednesday night, it was clear that things hadn't gone well. Members gave wildly varying accounts of the proposal that's being cobbled together to keep the government open ahead of Friday's shutdown deadline.

Most importantly: Do they have the votes to pass a bill?

"I don't know," said Rep. Ryan Costello, R-Pennsylvania. "I don't think anyone knows."

By the dozens, members quickly shuffled to the House chamber for an unrelated vote. The leadership's whip team scurried about the floor, taking the temperature on a number of proposals to see which one could land them the coveted number of 218 votes.

There are many different options and questions for GOP leaders.......................................................

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/20/politics/republicans-shutdown/index.html

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2 days away, Republicans still don't have a plan to avoid shutdown (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2017 OP
Republicans control the government. Let them own the shit show. dalton99a Dec 2017 #1
Exactly. They have no use for us except when they get stuck Tom Rinaldo Dec 2017 #2
yep elmac Dec 2017 #9
Yes. OWN it. Grins Dec 2017 #11
Slight correction bluevoter4life Dec 2017 #15
And of course they will expect the Democrats to agree to whatever avebury Dec 2017 #3
Because they want the shutdown IronLionZion Dec 2017 #4
They have a plan. It is called "blame the dems" jimlup Dec 2017 #5
How about an amendent to the bill that limits tRumps nuclear authority? nt Girard442 Dec 2017 #6
Governing is hard work. irisblue Dec 2017 #7
Well, don't they look like dumbasses C_U_L8R Dec 2017 #8
Their plan blame the Democrats left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #10
Can't Blame Democrats When You Control House By Substantial Margin SoCalMusicLover Dec 2017 #12
Lets go; Democrat XYZ -fire up that Twitter machine! n/t EarthFirst Dec 2017 #13
Let the ones who voted for the tax bill vote to increase the national debt! FreeStateDemocrat Dec 2017 #14

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
2. Exactly. They have no use for us except when they get stuck
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:27 PM
Dec 2017

I could see providing Democratic votes for legislation that is otherwise acceptable that Republicans can't pass on their own because there are too many crazies in their caucus IF they were willing to work with us on a regular basis to craft acceptable legislation even when they don't absolutely need our votes. But they can't treat us like a doormat 95% of the time and then expect us to be there when they implode.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
9. yep
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:44 PM
Dec 2017

shutting down the gov actually helped them in the following elections. Dems best move, not to work with the fascists, let them self destruct. They are destroying the country anyway so lets get it over with, voting or not voting has consequences, we will see a lot of pain before the fascists are booted out of office and country.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
11. Yes. OWN it.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:14 PM
Dec 2017

They made what I call the "George Soros Tax Reduction Act of 2017" a priority over governing, so eff them.

And let all of it all come to a stop. At Christmas. And when the FAA shuts down ATC, let them. Let the Reich-wingers really feel what that "smaller government" they voted for really feels like.

A friend told me long ago that the Reich only responds when it his them - personally - so let them have it. No services, no SSA checks going out, no parks, no courts, no NIH, no cancer treatments, etc. See how they like it then.

bluevoter4life

(787 posts)
15. Slight correction
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 05:23 PM
Dec 2017

When the government shuts down, ATC still continues to provide services. We just don't get paid until they pull their head out of their ass.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
3. And of course they will expect the Democrats to agree to whatever
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:27 PM
Dec 2017

they cobble together because Democrats are the adults in the room. Democrats need to dig in and not sign any agreement unless they get something in return. If Republicans try to blame a shut down on the Democrats, the Democrats need to be in lockstep with the message that:
1. Republicans are in control of both chambers
2. Republicans were more concerned with passing a bill that would give an enormous amount of wealth to Corporations and the 1%ers (while putting money in many Republicans in Congress at the same time) then in doing their job to make sure that the Federal Government continues to operate.
3. Due to poor planning on their part they expect Democrats to jump through whatever hoops the Republicans give them and Democrats are fed up with the slap dash, ill prepared, poor work process of the Republicans.
4. Democrats need to demand a major concession from the Republicans (i.e. stop rolling over).

A lack of planning on the part of the Republicans should not allow them to continue to operate in a sloppy irresponsible manner.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
4. Because they want the shutdown
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 12:33 PM
Dec 2017

Active duty Military and law enforcement will still work without pay. Federal workers get unpaid leave, which in the past Congress has authorized back pay for both military and other federal workers. And many contractors get screwed hard and can go to hell.

And of course the people who need benefits and services will get screwed also. GOP doesn't even pretend to give a shit about them. They think the tax cuts have solved all the problems they care about.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
8. Well, don't they look like dumbasses
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 01:03 PM
Dec 2017

First they pocket all the money, then they wonder cluelessly how to keep the lights on. What a bunch of bozos.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
12. Can't Blame Democrats When You Control House By Substantial Margin
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:39 PM
Dec 2017

Let them own the fucking shutdown. Make sure people know that in addition to the supposed Christmas tax bill, people won't be getting their paychecks or Social Security. Tell everyone that this chaos was brought about by the REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED CONGRESS.

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