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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 02:47 PM Dec 2017

Israel Rejects 'Preposterous' UN Decision on Jerusalem, Thanks Trump for Unequivocal Support

Source: Haaretz




Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu blasts the world body as a 'theater of the absurd,' but promises the vote won't have an actual impact on reality in Jerusalem

Noa Landau and Haaretz Dec 21, 2017 7:45 PM

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that "Israel completely rejects this preposterous resolution," responding minutes after the UN General Assembly overwhelmingly voted in favor of a resolution that rejected U.S. President Donald Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as the Israeli capital.

In a major diplomatic blow to Israel and Trump, the UN General Assembly passed a resolution rejecting the American recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital, with 128 member states voting in favor of the resolution and a mere nine voting against it.

"Jerusalem is our capital, always was and always will be. But I do appreciate the fact that a growing number of countries refuse to participate in this theater of the absurd," Netanyahu charged in a live Facebook video.

Israeli officials noted that some of those countries are those Netnayahu had visited. Israel also thanked Trump for his unequivocal stance on Jerusalem. Israel also thanked those who voted together with Israel and "for truth."




Read more: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.830505

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Israel Rejects 'Preposterous' UN Decision on Jerusalem, Thanks Trump for Unequivocal Support (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
Well, Bibi got Trump to threaten the entire world before the vote...kind of gave the game away. Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #1
That's the truth. sandensea Dec 2017 #6
two crooks pissed at the world. Javaman Dec 2017 #2
Exactly MFM008 Dec 2017 #5
2 Nazi like leaders care less about peace, more about being bullies. onit2day Dec 2017 #3
Are you calling the PM of Israel "Nazi like" ? oberliner Dec 2017 #7
Too far, I agree. Bibi is more apartheid-like. How about Nikki threatening the world? Sad. Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #12
Apartheid-era South Africa used to say the same thing. sandensea Dec 2017 #4
How are things going in South Africa these days? oberliner Dec 2017 #8
I wouldn't call it a "major diplomatic blow" oberliner Dec 2017 #9
128 to 9 with 35 abstaining is an overwhelming rebuke. NBC News TV reported it as a Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #14
UN General Assembly votes with respect to Israel are always more lopsided than that oberliner Dec 2017 #15
Could it be because it criticized implicitly the USA karynnj Dec 2017 #17
Guess that means that the Trump Organization isn't getting all those no-bid contracts no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 #10
Why does this even matter? Loserman1962 Dec 2017 #11
"Decided" the capital. So speak the word and, presto, done? Everyone else with a claim, shove it? Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #13
Yes, but the PLO lost. appal_jack Dec 2017 #23
You mean the war where Israel annexed the entire West Bank? Why not wanting it all back? Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #24
Although I agree with your last sentence, The US has there dirty hands everywhere it seems... Old Vet Dec 2017 #16
A consulate is not an embassy. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2017 #20
Trump and Bibi, two thugs to which the world said F**k off. Dawson Leery Dec 2017 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #19
As a Jew, let me just say I agree that Jerusalem is the Israeli capital OliverQ Dec 2017 #21
The alliance of End Time Jews and Christians is both scary and laughable. Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #25
I also seem to recall peace between Israel and Palestine being required OliverQ Dec 2017 #26
Land grabber loves his pussy grabber. moondust Dec 2017 #22

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. Well, Bibi got Trump to threaten the entire world before the vote...kind of gave the game away.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 02:49 PM
Dec 2017

What argument do you have if you have to threaten the world? Sad!

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
6. That's the truth.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:16 PM
Dec 2017

Don't be shocked if an Isreali embassy somewhere is unexpectedly "bombed" (from the inside) sometime in the near future.

No one in the media will be allowed to point out that the damage radiates outward from the building and other inconsistencies, they'll miraculously 'find' an intact Iranian passport in the rubble, and Cheeto will start bloviating about a "cruel, dastardly act by Iran that will not go unpunished - that I can tell you."

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
4. Apartheid-era South Africa used to say the same thing.
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:09 PM
Dec 2017

"Thank God for Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan," P.W. Botha once said. "Otherwise we'd be all alone in the world."

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. How are things going in South Africa these days?
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:34 PM
Dec 2017

Seems like no one really cares much about that country anymore.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. I wouldn't call it a "major diplomatic blow"
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 03:35 PM
Dec 2017

There were actually fewer countries voting yes than usual on this sort of thing.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
14. 128 to 9 with 35 abstaining is an overwhelming rebuke. NBC News TV reported it as a
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 07:35 PM
Dec 2017

"scathingly rejection" of the claim.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. UN General Assembly votes with respect to Israel are always more lopsided than that
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 07:58 PM
Dec 2017

It's usually everyone vs. US, Israel, Micronesia, Marshall Islands with maybe a handful abstaining.

This is actually probably the lowest number of yes votes on a UNGA resolution with respect to Israel of the last 30 years.

no_hypocrisy

(46,104 posts)
10. Guess that means that the Trump Organization isn't getting all those no-bid contracts
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 04:58 PM
Dec 2017

to build new embassies throughout Jerusalem and East Jerusalemm.

Loserman1962

(17 posts)
11. Why does this even matter?
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 05:31 PM
Dec 2017

The fact is Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel.
Israel decided that 67 years ago.

The whole world is being hypocritical over this since everyone has consulates in Jerusalem.

Everyone can decry that this impedes a peace negotiation or somehow makes a 2 state solution impossible.
The fact is there will never be a peace solution between Israel and the Palestinians.
There will also never be a 2 state solution and it is folly to think there ever will be.

Our best course of action would be to stay completely the hell out of the middle east.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. "Decided" the capital. So speak the word and, presto, done? Everyone else with a claim, shove it?
Thu Dec 21, 2017, 07:09 PM
Dec 2017

PLO has also decided same city as it's capital.

The arrogance of Israeli and American regimes is rejected by the entire world. They too have decided....Israel is wrong.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
23. Yes, but the PLO lost.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:33 AM
Dec 2017

And even after losing, Israel came to the table in good faith multiple times. I watched the 2000 Camp David events shepherded by Clinton on live TV, thinking "finally, there's a chance for peace." And then Arafat walked away from a deal that would have given the Palestinians 91% of the West Bank and the vast majority of East Jerusalem. That was a loser move if there ever was one, and a big waste of a Democratic President's time and efforts.

-app

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
24. You mean the war where Israel annexed the entire West Bank? Why not wanting it all back?
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:50 AM
Dec 2017

Could debate 2000 until the cows came home. Now with no Jeruslaum bargaining chip do you or anyone else truly that no this helps with a settlement?? Not logical.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
20. A consulate is not an embassy.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:10 AM
Dec 2017

and Israel's occupation and annexation of East Jerusalem is in violation of international law, which doesn't recognise territorial gain by right of conquest (one of the consequences of WWII).

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
21. As a Jew, let me just say I agree that Jerusalem is the Israeli capital
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:55 AM
Dec 2017

That being said, moving the embassy there is pointless. You can view it as the capital without moving the embassy. Tel Aviv is the most popular city in Israel and the safest for Americans. Makes more sense to leave it there.

Second, delicate politics are involved with this and Trump is the last person I want making decisions about Israel, causing more strife and mayhem for the people in the area.

And third, I'm so fed up with the Evangelical/right-wing/GOP obsession with Israel. They couldn't give two dumps about us Jews. Most of them are probably anti-semitic. The only reason they're so involved with Israel, is that it's part of their Armageddon/Rapture end times scenario that they desperately want to take place. They think the more they support Israel, the closer the ends times get.

I'm tired of the GOP co-opting the Jewish homeland and Jewish people for their own evil agenda. I'm also sick of conservative Jews buying into the nonsense.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
25. The alliance of End Time Jews and Christians is both scary and laughable.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:54 AM
Dec 2017

Still have to wait for the building of that third Temple. This silly move by Shitler is being viewed as one step closer to the Rapture by the religiously brainwashed.

But building another Temple? Is that even on the drawing board?

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
26. I also seem to recall peace between Israel and Palestine being required
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:34 PM
Dec 2017

for the rise of the Anti-Christ and the end times.

This obviously doesn't help that part of their ridiculous effort.

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