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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:09 PM Dec 2017

White Nationalist Leader Turns On Trump, Warns Alt-Right Won't Be 'Retarded Cousin' Of Mainstream...

Source: Newsweek Magazine

WHITE NATIONALIST LEADER TURNS ON TRUMP, WARNS THAT ALT-RIGHT WON'T BE 'RETARDED COUSIN' OF MAINSTREAM CONSERVATIVES

BY MICHAEL EDISON HAYDEN ON 12/22/17 AT 8:00 AM

The “alt-right” movement, which calls for limited immigration, mass deportations and a new state populated only by whites, played a role in helping Donald Trump win the White House. Today, some members of the movement are at a crossroads with the president, claiming he has abandoned their cause.

“I believe the radical energies and deep yearning for change that flowed into the Trump campaign in 2015 and 2016 are now receding with the tide,” Brad Griffin, a self-described Southern Nationalist, wrote on his blog, Occidental Dissent. “I’m confident the Democrats will come roaring back in the 2018 midterms. I don’t want to be associated with ‘MAGA’ because our policies were discarded by the Trump administration.”

Griffin, who helped organize a so-called White Lives Matter rally in Tennessee in October and publishes under the pseudonym Hunter Wallace, has earned a reputation for being among the more cogent and discerning commentators in the white nationalist community. He’s also among the bluntest when describing the movement’s shortcomings. Among his gripes with the president, Griffin mentioned in his post the airstrike on Syria in April, the attempt to undo health care reform, the tax reform effort and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s promises to make a deal on the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. The “Trump administration has chosen the Republican establishment,” Griffin argued. He added: “In 2017, the Trump administration didn’t want anything to do with us and dropped us like a hot potato after the election.”

In his post, Griffin reminded readers of a warning he gave prior to Trump taking power, suggesting that the alt-right movement would not be content to be “locked in the basement” of mainstream conservatism and “treated like a retarded cousin for the next four years.” Griffin suggested that this vision was fulfilled in Charlottesville, Virginia in August, when large numbers of white nationalists and neo-Nazis assembled before the rally devolved into violence. The alt-right has struggled to mobilize in public following Charlottesville, however, and Griffin suggested that people will see less “activism” from the alt-right in 2018.







Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/white-nationalist-leader-turns-trump-after-warning-alt-right-wont-be-retarded-756375

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White Nationalist Leader Turns On Trump, Warns Alt-Right Won't Be 'Retarded Cousin' Of Mainstream... (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
Too late! hatrack Dec 2017 #1
So they think of themselves as "retarded republican cousins" Achilleaze Dec 2017 #29
When Even The Alt Right Is Turning Against You Me. Dec 2017 #2
You are not retarded safeinOhio Dec 2017 #3
Making Trump the new mainstream and old Republicans the new Democrats. jalan48 Dec 2017 #4
Yup. MGKrebs Dec 2017 #26
Yes! Trump is not extreme enough for them bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #5
They're waiting for the second coming of Hitler. Initech Dec 2017 #8
Oh ok.. Im sure donnie and the GOP will get right on that. mountain grammy Dec 2017 #6
Get in line Sweetie PatSeg Dec 2017 #7
He abandoned *them* The Mouth Dec 2017 #10
Yes PatSeg Dec 2017 #15
That's why Pence scares me way more The Mouth Dec 2017 #16
Oh yes, that's right PatSeg Dec 2017 #22
Awww... poor little snowflake SJW! Initech Dec 2017 #9
What a nice description of your group! CanonRay Dec 2017 #11
Well, that's exactly what you are.. paleotn Dec 2017 #12
You're not retarded, Brad Griffin, you're remedial. muntrv Dec 2017 #13
So here's the truth pandr32 Dec 2017 #14
If they did abandon him BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #17
Trump didn't abandon them Bradical79 Dec 2017 #18
Donnie Only Cares About Donnie Ccarmona Dec 2017 #19
You were used by a old fat white guy (maybe rich or poor) Corgigal Dec 2017 #20
Truth: the alt-right is Red RainCaster Dec 2017 #21
They were gamed and now who can they possibly support with any chances with the main stream? marble falls Dec 2017 #23
This whole alt-right movement will turn on each other after the 2018 election. crowman2016 Dec 2017 #24
Too late now, pal meow2u3 Dec 2017 #25
Like Bannon supposedly turning against Donnie, I don't believe this shit one bit... Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #27
How do I put this? Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2017 #28

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
29. So they think of themselves as "retarded republican cousins"
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 06:52 AM
Dec 2017

But they don't want anyone else to think of them that way.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
26. Yup.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 06:08 PM
Dec 2017

Perhaps the most fascinating billboard I ever saw just said, in big letters: Don't trust the liberal media". The psychology involved in that phrase is really subtle and probably powerful.
This has a similar effect.

PatSeg

(47,452 posts)
7. Get in line Sweetie
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:25 PM
Dec 2017

Trump has abandoned pretty much all his supporters, except for the ones with the big bucks. Too bad, so sad, you've all been had.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
10. He abandoned *them*
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:29 PM
Dec 2017

but we are still witnessing one of the largest cases of Stockholm Syndrome ever...


This article is from a Reich wing mag, obviously no agreement with the author nor their thesis is implied(!), but it *IS* a good explication of why one segment still supports Cheeto Benito.... Apologies for any vomit anyone has to wipe off their screens...

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/12/he_said_we_were_good_why_trumps_message_resonates_with_evangelicals.html#.WjwnZ0wUkP8.facebook

PatSeg

(47,452 posts)
15. Yes
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:19 PM
Dec 2017

And the End Times is a very real event for evangelicals. I'm sure many don't care all that much for Trump as a person, but they see him as the one who will bring about The Rapture. Many are not content to just prayerfully sit back and wait for it, they are doing everything they can to make it happen. Apparently god can't manage the task on his own.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
16. That's why Pence scares me way more
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:01 PM
Dec 2017

Trump is bad enough, but we've had malignant narcissists before. I honestly don't think he'd start a full on nuclear war on purpose for bringing on the end times, he has it too good, jets, wife, money, fame... Pence, on the other hand would view himself as doing God's work in immanentizing the eschaton

PatSeg

(47,452 posts)
22. Oh yes, that's right
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:54 PM
Dec 2017

Pence is a true-believer and can justify compromising his values when it is for god's work. If he believes that the End Times are at hand, he probably wants to be an instrument of the almighty.

Trump on the other hand doesn't believe in much of anything. All that he does is for money and adulation, not to mention revenge. He uses evangelicals' beliefs to his own benefit, though he could be unwittingly fulfilling their prophecy.

paleotn

(17,917 posts)
12. Well, that's exactly what you are..
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:58 PM
Dec 2017

...the moronic wing. But take comfort in the fact that you represent a wing of conservo-nut-ism every Rethuglican would love to belong to publicly if it were...you know... socially acceptable in polite company. Rest assured that trash is at the heart of every Rethuglican, whether they admit it or not.

pandr32

(11,584 posts)
14. So here's the truth
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 01:18 PM
Dec 2017

You were used. Get over it and back to the basement you go, or you could change your ways and attitudes and join your diverse country by letting go of the idea that you are more special than everybody else. We already have the 1% locking that down.

BumRushDaShow

(129,018 posts)
17. If they did abandon him
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:06 PM
Dec 2017

that will help provide an opening for some more Democratic Congressional pickups.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
18. Trump didn't abandon them
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:16 PM
Dec 2017

Some of them are just so dumb that even Donald Trump is too subtle in his white supremecist rhetoric and overtures for them to understand. He downplayed and tried to redirect the Neo-Nazis violence in Charlottesville, but even Donald Trump isn't stupid enough to go full explicit Nazi in public. They're his favorite people as long as they don't bring extra heat down on him.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
19. Donnie Only Cares About Donnie
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:17 PM
Dec 2017

It’s a tough lesson for these shit-heels to learn, but they’re catching on quickly.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
20. You were used by a old fat white guy (maybe rich or poor)
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:26 PM
Dec 2017

sorry you couldn't see that coming.

Everyone else did.

crowman2016

(15 posts)
24. This whole alt-right movement will turn on each other after the 2018 election.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:00 PM
Dec 2017

And will implode once Drumpf goes to prison.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
25. Too late now, pal
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:13 PM
Dec 2017

The "alt-right" is already the stupid, excessively vicious stepbrother of mainstream repukes, most of whom are closet neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,575 posts)
28. How do I put this?
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 02:19 AM
Dec 2017

Hmmmmm. I've got it! Fuck the Alt-Right!!! Tine for the grownups to take over and they can go back under the rocks or into the sewers they came from........

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