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Judi Lynn

(160,644 posts)
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 12:50 AM Dec 2017

Trump Justice Department Pushes for Citizenship Question on Census, Alarming Experts

Source: Huffington Post

12/29/2017 09:50 pm ET
“This is a recipe for sabotaging the census.”
Justin Elliott ProPublica

The Justice Department is pushing for a question on citizenship to be added to the 2020 census, a move that observers say could depress participation by immigrants who fear that the government could use the information against them. That, in turn, could have potentially large ripple effects for everything the once-a-decade census determines — from how congressional seats are distributed around the country to where hundreds of billions of federal dollars are spent.

The DOJ made the request in a previously unreported letter, dated Dec. 12 and obtained by ProPublica, from DOJ official Arthur Gary to the top official at the Census Bureau, which is part of the Commerce Department. The letter argues that the DOJ needs better citizenship data to better enforce the Voting Rights Act “and its important protections against racial discrimination in voting.”

A Census Bureau spokesperson confirmed the agency received the letter and said the “request will go through the well-established process that any potential question would go through.” The DOJ declined to comment and the White House did not respond to a request for comment.

Observers said they feared adding a citizenship question would not only lower response rates, but also make the census more expensive and throw a wrench into the system with just two years to go before the 2020 count. Questions are usually carefully field-tested, a process that can take years.



Read more: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-justice-department-pushes-for-citizenship-question-on-census-alarming-experts_us_5a46fc79e4b0b0e5a7a68d3d?section=us_politics

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Trump Justice Department Pushes for Citizenship Question on Census, Alarming Experts (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2017 OP
Well....I must be truthful... FarPoint Dec 2017 #1
LOL Ohiogal Dec 2017 #2
I am from Venus burrowowl Dec 2017 #5
That's impressive... Wuddles440 Dec 2017 #11
Now it is repug click voters ....but when I grew up there Union jobs ruled... FarPoint Dec 2017 #13
Agree. Wuddles440 Dec 2017 #14
I'm in Ohio now but have lifetime friends there.... FarPoint Dec 2017 #15
But questions about race aren't "alarming" when those were once actually used PoliticAverse Dec 2017 #3
+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #4
If they ask me, I'm an illegal too RainCaster Dec 2017 #6
They may be targeting California with this but BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #7
My credit card company and bank also asked the same question recently bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #8
It's a standard question if you open an investment account Yupster Dec 2017 #12
Oh Jesus no. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #9
He wants it to be that exactly duforsure Dec 2017 #10

Wuddles440

(1,127 posts)
11. That's impressive...
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 03:07 PM
Dec 2017

because Democrats around Mars, Pennsylvania are a rare breed and have almost mystical status like unicorns.

FarPoint

(12,454 posts)
13. Now it is repug click voters ....but when I grew up there Union jobs ruled...
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 04:44 PM
Dec 2017

Democrats were the foundation of Mars ....Many of us who grew up there when it was a close knit community remain friends and strong Democrats....

Wuddles440

(1,127 posts)
14. Agree.
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 07:04 PM
Dec 2017

It's gone through some dramatic changes over the past several decades and sadly has now become the land of the Daryl Metcalfe freaks. We moved from there 20 years ago, but my sister still lives there. Until your post, I thought she was the only Democrat still in the area. Stay strong!

FarPoint

(12,454 posts)
15. I'm in Ohio now but have lifetime friends there....
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 07:20 PM
Dec 2017

I lived there when everyone knew their neighbors.... probably knew too much but in a good way....

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. But questions about race aren't "alarming" when those were once actually used
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 01:00 AM
Dec 2017

to round up americans to put in concentration camps?

Confirmed: The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WW II
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/confirmed-the-us-census-b/

BumRushDaShow

(129,635 posts)
7. They may be targeting California with this but
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 08:30 AM
Dec 2017

they would torpedo their "red" states of FL, TX, & AZ too, so it will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere.

bucolic_frolic

(43,350 posts)
8. My credit card company and bank also asked the same question recently
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 09:45 AM
Dec 2017

the Feds are pushing them. Are financial institutions being used as de facto agents of the Federal government, or ICE?

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
12. It's a standard question if you open an investment account
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 03:19 PM
Dec 2017

with a brokerage firm. Has been for at least 30 years.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
10. He wants it to be that exactly
Sat Dec 30, 2017, 11:33 AM
Dec 2017

His Justice Department answering to him, and only him. That's why he's moving quickly to rig the next elections with the help from putin again. The gop are helping him stack the courts for this.

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