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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 04:32 PM Jan 2018

Dennis Kucinich is running for Ohio governor against 6 other Democrats

Source: Springfield News-Sun




By Laura A. Bischoff - Columbus bureau

Columbus — Former Cleveland mayor and U.S. member of Congress Dennis Kucinich is running for Ohio governor, joining an already crowded field in the Democratic primary.

Kucinich filed paperwork with the Ohio Secretary of State on Monday to declare his candidacy and name a campaign treasurer. Kucinich, 71, launched his political career nearly 50 years ago when he served on the Cleveland City Council and later captured the mayor’s office in 1977. He served eight terms in Congress and twice ran for his party’s nomination for president.

Kucinich joins Dayton Mayor Nan Whaley, former U.S. Rep. Betty Sutton of the Akron area, state Sen. Joe Schiavoni of Boardman, Ohio Supreme Court Justice Bill O’Neill, former state Rep. Connie Pillich of Cincinnati and former Attorney General Richard Cordray in the Democratic primary.

Candidates must pick their running mates and file petitions signed by 1,000 Ohio voters by Feb. 7.

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Read more: http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/dennis-kucinich-running-for-ohio-governor-against-other-democrats/8lNjACdgNqcQBzMoEGK13I/

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Dennis Kucinich is running for Ohio governor against 6 other Democrats (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2018 OP
Can't wait to hear him on fake news. Iliyah Jan 2018 #1
He jumped in and will only be a spoiler vote... FarPoint Jan 2018 #2
You can't be a "spoiler" in the primary. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #5
No. Kasich won because of white men JI7 Jan 2018 #7
There wasn't any group OTHER than white men who wanted us to nominate Ken Burch Jan 2018 #13
POC voted for the democrat. White men supported Kasich JI7 Jan 2018 #16
I recognize that. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #18
If progressive whites didn't vote they are not progressive JI7 Jan 2018 #22
I'm fairly sure turnout was low among the entire Dem coalition the year Kasich won. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #23
If they didn't vote they are not progressive JI7 Jan 2018 #25
And you know perfectly well I'm not defending people not voting. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #31
Dems got a shot and I'll tell you why. GOPricklepants Jan 2018 #36
Thanks for the explanation of that. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #43
Ohio overall...the Democratic voters... FarPoint Jan 2018 #17
OK, but this time choose a progressive. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #19
My strong guess... FarPoint Jan 2018 #21
That would be a good bet Maeve Jan 2018 #26
That will be up to OH Dems. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #28
These days, almost no Dems when statewide in Ohio. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #32
Yeah OH really is more of a gop state but it is also heavily gerrymandered. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #33
What is needed is someone who can connect with people who've been laid-off Ken Burch Jan 2018 #35
Well we shall see what happens in the primary. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #37
All very true. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #42
He went over to the dark side. He worked for FOX, became one of them for money. brush Jan 2018 #38
Wasnt he great on the fox channel Fullduplexxx Jan 2018 #3
He's near the bottom of my list Bradical79 Jan 2018 #4
If we can get Jerry Springer in, we could do a sequel to WHO WANTS TO BE GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA brooklynite Jan 2018 #6
really? zeusdogmom Jan 2018 #8
besides, it is Ohio, Ohio doesn't want a candidate that makes sense. olddad56 Jan 2018 #15
As a battleground state for voter manipulation... More_Cowbell Jan 2018 #9
I'm going to vote for Ohiogal Jan 2018 #10
LOL Scurrilous Jan 2018 #11
He's a Trump supporter. Cattledog Jan 2018 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Jan 2018 #14
The only viable candidate among this group is Richard Cordray. OilemFirchen Jan 2018 #20
What's so special about the Cordray guy? Ken Burch Jan 2018 #24
Don't know if anyone's saying he's special but Richard is a very solid candidate. PragmaticLiberal Jan 2018 #27
Experience, name recognition and electability. OilemFirchen Jan 2018 #30
Why are you putting the word "centrist" in quotes regarding Strickland? Ken Burch Jan 2018 #34
You're the one who called him a centrist. OilemFirchen Jan 2018 #39
Maybe Cordray will be nominated. We'll see what happens. Ken Burch Jan 2018 #41
Ohio is a centrist state. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #40
I doubt Ohio would election Kucinich. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #29

FarPoint

(12,434 posts)
2. He jumped in and will only be a spoiler vote...
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jan 2018

Trying to diminish the strong Democratic message overall....

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
5. You can't be a "spoiler" in the primary.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 04:44 PM
Jan 2018

It's not as though they should just settle for a bland centrist already.

A bland centrist candidate is why Kasich won.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
13. There wasn't any group OTHER than white men who wanted us to nominate
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 05:25 PM
Jan 2018

the least progressive candidate possible.

That candidate was never the first choice of women or people of color.

There was no good reason every to nominate the least progressive(and there least worthwhile) candidate possible.

It wasn't the fault of PROGRESSIVE white men that Kasich won-progressive white men voted Dem in that race.

Against the person who won our primary, any R was certain to win.

That's what happen when you nominate bland centrists in a state that isn't hard-red.

The lesson is-NEVER nominate bland centrists anywhere north of the Mason-Dixon line.

(on edit). I'm not supporting Dennis in this effort...but there's valid point here that we can't ever nominate anybody like Strickland again. If he lost badly, that means anybody close to him on the issues would lose badly. Why even risk it, when the only chance we've got is a candidate who talks about class and the need to balance the scales? We can't win in a working-class state with anyone the big donors would prefer; i.e., with a candidate who doesn't stand for anything.


 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
18. I recognize that.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 06:34 PM
Jan 2018

But it was only right-wing white men who supported Kucinich.

It wasn't white progressives.

The democrat lost because he depressed turnout.

If I'd lived in Ohio, I'd have voted for the dem anyway, as did the prohibitive majority of whites who identify as progressives.

White men, overall, are always going to be to the right of the voting public, but progressive whites aren't responsible for that.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
23. I'm fairly sure turnout was low among the entire Dem coalition the year Kasich won.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 07:57 PM
Jan 2018

Look, I'd have voted for the Dem.

I'm just saying it's not as simple as blaming non-conservative whites.

You have to put some responsibility on the party for running a campaign that didn't connect with people's lives and on Strickland for being totally out of touch.

I wish the Dem incumbent Kasich beat had been re-elected and that the person who ran against him for re-election had won.

(on edit) In the re-election campaign, Kasich won by 30 points. With that type of margin, there's not much difference higher turnout would have made, really.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
31. And you know perfectly well I'm not defending people not voting.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 09:42 PM
Jan 2018

Just point out that Kasich was going to win in 2010 no matter what.

GOPricklepants

(34 posts)
36. Dems got a shot and I'll tell you why.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 09:53 PM
Jan 2018

When Kasich won over Strickland it was with 49% of the vote and by about 75,000 votes. There was a third party candidate that year. When he won re-election by the 30% margin it was because the Democratic Party candidate was found by a police officer at 4am in a parked car with someone who wasn't his wife. He was also found to not have renewed his drivers license in a decade. He had already picked a running mate that had a lot of personal debt. That's three strikes, you're out! The Democratic Party didn't even support him. Kasich wasn't beloved by all, just running against an irresponsible ass. Pick the best candidate and a Democrat can WIN!

FarPoint

(12,434 posts)
17. Ohio overall...the Democratic voters...
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jan 2018

They won't pick Kucinich.... He's not really popular here in Ohio overall.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
19. OK, but this time choose a progressive.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 06:34 PM
Jan 2018

Strickland proves it's pointless ever to nominate another centrist.

Maeve

(42,288 posts)
26. That would be a good bet
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:27 PM
Jan 2018

Cordray is young and has the whole 'consumer advocate' thing going for him. He also seems relatively polular (but then, I live in his home town!)

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
32. These days, almost no Dems when statewide in Ohio.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 09:43 PM
Jan 2018

The only recent exception is Sherrod Brown, who is solidly progressive.

 

PragmaticDem

(320 posts)
33. Yeah OH really is more of a gop state but it is also heavily gerrymandered.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 09:45 PM
Jan 2018

Strickland won is 2006 in a good year but after that Brown is the only elected Dem statewide. Centrists and progressives have fallen short.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
35. What is needed is someone who can connect with people who've been laid-off
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 09:50 PM
Jan 2018

or those fearing layoffs.

That is just as important as being pro-choice(and doesn't generally conflict with being pro-choice).

People need to read about the kind of successful progressive organizing that's been done in Youngstown.

 

PragmaticDem

(320 posts)
37. Well we shall see what happens in the primary.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 09:56 PM
Jan 2018

Honestly I don't get swing voters and what moves elections anymore.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
42. All very true.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 10:42 PM
Jan 2018

I'm not sure "swing voter" or "centrist independents" exist anymore...or if they ever actually did.

We lost in 2010 because Democratic strategists focused on appealing to(or more accurately, appeasing the supposed conservatism of) "suburban centrist independents", rather than accepting the reality that midterms are won by firing up the base.

brush

(53,841 posts)
38. He went over to the dark side. He worked for FOX, became one of them for money.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 10:13 PM
Jan 2018

Hope he's not under the illusion that he can keep switching sides when he sees and opportunity and all will be forgiven.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
4. He's near the bottom of my list
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 04:42 PM
Jan 2018

Not sure which one I'll back yet, but I know it's not going to be Kucinich.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
9. As a battleground state for voter manipulation...
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 05:09 PM
Jan 2018

Ohio needs a strong Democratic governor.

I'll never forget Rove's fit on Election Night.

Cattledog

(5,919 posts)
12. He's a Trump supporter.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 05:22 PM
Jan 2018
http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/01/dennis_kucinich_cheers_preside.html

"Donald Trump's message of unity is critical at this moment," he wrote. "I call upon all Americans to join in a common effort to create a great vision for our country, our people and for peace in the world. Let's give him and ourselves a chance."

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
20. The only viable candidate among this group is Richard Cordray.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 06:42 PM
Jan 2018

I do wish that Nan Whaley would run for Mike Turner's seat.

Both, however, face a purist snub. So we'll end up with DeWine and Turner.

Feh.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
24. What's so special about the Cordray guy?
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:04 PM
Jan 2018

If he's a centrist, that won't help...Ohio isn't the type of state where you have to nominate centrists to win(it's only states in the South were you have to do that, and only then in rare cases).

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
30. Experience, name recognition and electability.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:54 PM
Jan 2018

BTW, the last Democratic governor of Ohio was the "centrist" Ted Strickland. Other than the odious Bob Taft, we've had "centrist" governors throughout my lifetime.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
34. Why are you putting the word "centrist" in quotes regarding Strickland?
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 09:47 PM
Jan 2018

The man, to my knowledge, had no significant progressive policies.

Ohio has elected people like Howard Metzenbaum and Sherrod Brown to the Senate.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
39. You're the one who called him a centrist.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 10:21 PM
Jan 2018

He's a liberal. It was your contention, however, that Ohio Democrats shouldn't run a "centrist". An assertion belied by the fact that the last Democratic governor was - by your standards - such a beast.

Yes, Ohio has had (and currently has) a progressive Senator. It also has a conservative Senator. We've had substantially more Republican than Democratic governors over the past fifty years. Such is Ohio.

Funny that, with your depth of knowledge concerning Ohio politics, you don't know Richard Cordray. Perhaps you're loathe to Google him. Fine. Google CFPB instead.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
41. Maybe Cordray will be nominated. We'll see what happens.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 10:40 PM
Jan 2018

If he's truly the best, nobody will have to say things like "he's the only serious candidate" or in any other way to hard-sell the guy.

My knowledge of Ohio politics is at the level of U.S. Senators and governors. I never claimed I knew of every political figure in the state.


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