The Trumps asked to borrow a Van Gogh for the White House. The Guggenheim offered an 18K gold toilet
Source: Washington Post
The emailed response from the Guggenheims chief curator to the White House was polite but firm: the museum could not accommodate a request to borrow a painting by Vincent Van Gogh for President and Melania Trumps private living quarters.
Instead, wrote the curator, Nancy Spector, another piece was available, one that was nothing like Landscape With Snow, the lovely 1888 Van Gogh rendering of a man in a black hat walking along a path in Arles with his dog.
The curators alternative: an 18-karat, fully functioning, solid gold toilet - an interactive work entitled America that critics have described as pointed satire aimed at the excess of wealth in this country.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/the-white-house-wanted-a-van-gogh-the-guggenheim-offered-a-used-solid-gold-toilet/2018/01/25/38d574fc-0154-11e8-bb03-722769454f82_story.html
SeattleVet
(5,478 posts)it's got to be 24 karat, or the massive ass doesn't touch it!
How *dare* they offer him something that has 25% of another metal other than gold in it!
Cheap bastards...sad!
erronis
(15,326 posts)I have total pity for the poor people that have to help that lazy boy wash his crack. Or do anything else at all!
He has Ryan and McConnell for that...........
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)And for Ryan and McConnell it's more of a 'licking' motion than a ''washing'' motion.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)dchill
(38,517 posts)But then I have no class!
LakeArenal
(28,835 posts)No way. I have my standards.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)American Standards? That's a little 'potty humor' there.
LakeArenal
(28,835 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Massive Ass. 👍🏾😆
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)if we could use it to treat tRump to a sort of water-boarding in it. Maybe someone would lose track of time when his head was down in it one time!
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)is called a Swirlie. If by some stroke of luck, they sold tickets to see tRump get a Swirlie in the 18k gold plated can (my late fathers terminology for a toidy), I d camp out for days to be first in line to get a ticket. Hell, just to see his hair after such treatment would be worth the price of admission.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)What if the "swirlie" somehow strangled Donnie with his own locks? THAT would be precious.
cstanleytech
(26,316 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)A traitor getting a swirlie in a gold plated toilet.
alwaysinasnit
(5,070 posts)tRump's need for ostentation (and any other loose screw he may have) might actually convince him to take up that offer (assuming that the curator was not pulling his leg).
whopis01
(3,522 posts)Just look at his house...
colorado_ufo
(5,737 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)Mirrors on the beams? Really?
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)It's the Old Post Office Building, est. 1899, Richardson Revival Romanesque style, main DC PO, Historic Landmark Bldg.
The old Bell Tower with skyline city views is operated by the National Park Service.
It was 'The Pavilion' with retail shops & food court late 80s, 90s; we'd walk there for lunch sometimes. Quite a change!
https://www.trumphotels.com/washington-dc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Post_Office_(Washington,_D.C.)
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)Oppaloopa
(867 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)underpants
(182,866 posts)sakabatou
(42,170 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,469 posts)SeattleVet
(5,478 posts)and on loan to the Guggenheim for a significant tax break.
erronis
(15,326 posts)erronis
(15,326 posts)This subject is just so ripe for commentary and I get easily carried away... Oh, my handlers are arriving not to do that.
Joke:
What's that lying on the bench after Beethoven finished the Pastoral?
His second movement.
George II
(67,782 posts)stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)Or return a fake?
fierywoman
(7,688 posts)orangecrush
(19,605 posts)onetexan
(13,056 posts)iluvtennis
(19,868 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)"Novecento, Maurizio Cattelan, 1997. Horse in taxidermy with sling,"
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)At least I do now....I just printed it out on my color printer, and it's pretty damn impressive. I'm going to frame it.
Trumps, eat your heart out, and enjoy the toilet.
LisaM
(27,822 posts)Not only does he seem impervious to fine art at all, this is a painting of a man with a dog, and from all accounts, Trump doesn't like pets.
It seems strange.
PatSeg
(47,564 posts)Van Gogh hardly seems like Trump's taste. It sounds more like he's trying to impress someone.
LeftInTX
(25,510 posts)MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)And taste to them is whatever costs the most.
Nothing against van Gogh - his paintings are amazing in person, but he was not American, and they should only have American art in the White House. Trump is too dumb, illiterate and irresponsible with his money to know anything about American painting. So much for "America First".
psychopomp
(4,668 posts)And agree that the WH should host American artwork. Donald Trump is such a duplicitous person. "America First," indeed!
haele
(12,673 posts)I wouldn't have given her the snippy offer of the gold plated toilet, but I would have gently suggested that there were probably some lovely landscapes by famous American painters in White House storage that would be just as valuable and impressive in the household quarters.
Haele
FuzzyRabbit
(1,969 posts)The White House owns an extensive collection of fine paintings, some very similar in style and subject matter to the one Trump wanted to "borrow".
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)have been the curator's personal response, but her public one is in a class with the toilet itself. I'm surprised.
RobinA
(9,894 posts)of a cereal box somewhere that Van Gogh is a famous artist.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)I would love to borrow that, too.
chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)malthaussen
(17,215 posts)... but therein lies the problem. Mr Trump has done so much damage to the stature of the Presidency, that even museums feel free to be insulting. I remember Mr Nixon maundering on and on about "leers and sneers offered to the great office of the Presidency," and it is my belief that the office started a long decline in stature at that time. The insult offered to Trump the man is richly deserved, but is there not perhaps damage to the office he has usurped in the process? Are we confident that our fellow Americans can appreciate the distinction?
-- Mal
TeapotInATempest
(804 posts)This family embodies the absolute worst stereotypes of us.
47of74
(18,470 posts)FrodosNewPet
(495 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)his hair color and comb over and back?
Squinch
(50,992 posts)patronize the Guggenheim. It won't matter much to their bottom line, I'm sure, but it would be my little bit.
TeamPooka
(24,246 posts)public view and designated for his personal use.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,349 posts)I might see a president justifying putting a great work of art on public display in a part of the White House that the public visit all the time, or in the Oval Office where there's a lot of photos and filming (though this is still worse than people being able to study it in a gallery), but in their private residence? It's like a Bond villain.
forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)He might purchase a piece to give the White House, or donate one he owns.
Hes a millionaire who wants to borrow his furnishings like its Rent-A-Center.
TeamPooka
(24,246 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,175 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,020 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)they would NEVER get it back, that I can tell you.
tavernier
(12,396 posts)He would steal it and then send Guggenheim a bill, reminding them what an honor it is to have him own one of their paintings. This is how he has ripped off businesses all his life.
KPN
(15,649 posts)Awesome, they just told him he could go shit in .... well, a gold toilet! Gotta love it!
BadGimp
(4,017 posts)see what I did there?
matt819
(10,749 posts)that if they had loaned the van Gogh, that the buffoon-in-chief would attempt to return a forgery. He's done that before - presented a copy as the original. Of course, we'll never know. Though I gotta say, the Guggenheim was brilliant with its counter offer.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Not only is it a real work of art, the artist plumbed it in.
https://www.guggenheim.org/exhibition/maurizio-cattelan-america
progressoid
(49,995 posts)She sat on it. I didn't.
But I have the postcard!
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DinahMoeHum
(21,805 posts)Well played, Guggenheim Museum.
Le Gaucher
(1,547 posts)And he doesn't even deserve shit.
BigmanPigman
(51,623 posts)expensive features in his homes and yachts.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/539201/Vladimir-Putin-Russia-Wealth-Worth-Money-150-Billion-Richest-Man-Palace-Cars-Playboy
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)WaPo article. To the Guggenheim curator:
MLAA
(17,318 posts)while the real one actually resides in a well known museum.
3catwoman3
(24,029 posts)He is so crass, coarse, and classless.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)But since there's no place to put his phone whilst wiping his ample southside, I doubt Trump will pull the trigger on this art deal of the century.
Hassler
(3,384 posts)An 18k throne makes sense. The LOTUS (Lardass of the United States) would collapse a 24k commode.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)John Fante
(3,479 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,300 posts)(that's been updated):
Fred: Man, was I wasted last night! I think we ended up at Donald Trump's place; I vaguely remember going to the bathroom in a solid gold toilet.
George: You mean you're the son of a bitch who took a dump in my tuba?
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)He can buy his own art.
tanyev
(42,598 posts)Demtexan
(1,588 posts)The nerve to ask for that.
Maybe Putin wanted it.
tanyev
(42,598 posts)Az_lefty
(3,670 posts)rateyes
(17,438 posts)shithole is still a shithole.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Maeve
(42,287 posts)Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)The Guggenheim Curator Lady has just won all of the everything's forever and ever ... amen ...
TwistOneUp
(1,020 posts)<claps hands twice>
Wipers!
progree
(10,911 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)a Van Gogh, please...
I know the wealthy have traditionally supported the arts in European art (e.g. the Medici), but this is gross and horrible.
I am offended.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)would never see the Van Gogh again. Somehow it would get "lost" and wind up somewhere in Mar-ma-lado. You never loan the Trumps anything if you want to see it again.
torius
(1,652 posts)to "borrow" invaluable art. No one is. The Gugg is a private institution, the art it shows is political by nature, and its response was totally appropriate. Trump is anti-art and demonstrated it by destroying the Bonwit Teller building and refusing to even save one precious part of it after preservationists begged him to. But, Trump probably already has gold-plated toilets.
BootinUp
(47,179 posts)quakerboy
(13,920 posts)I suspect that he wouldn't get the joke. And that he would accept the offer, and have it installed somewhere he can make regular use of it, thinking it just his just dues.
cstanleytech
(26,316 posts)onecent
(6,096 posts)bitterross
(4,066 posts)Who the hell do they think they are to request something like that for the PRIVATE residence anyway? Just another example of how he thinks he's the emperor rather than an elected servant.
I could understand requesting something for the public areas of the White House. That way others would be able to enjoy it. But no, he wanted it for himself. What a total fuck he is.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Nitram
(22,845 posts)He loves all that glitters.
samplegirl
(11,489 posts)With a dog in it??? Thought he really dont like animals.
radhika
(1,008 posts)Or use it as collateral for an oligarch's loan. I'll bet the faux artist was already picked out, just waiting to get the go-ahead from an interested party.
mahina
(17,693 posts)radhika
(1,008 posts)Have to take him to court. Like Trump U students, contractors and investors.
Butterflylady
(3,547 posts)I would think that would be more of their taste.
(Sarcasm)
niyad
(113,524 posts)niyad
(113,524 posts)that the orange madman does NOT have the taste to appreciate fine art.