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Enrique

(27,461 posts)
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 08:35 PM Aug 2012

Presented with letters, Ryan admits requesting stimulus funds

Source: ABC News

After repeated denials, Paul Ryan has admitted he requested stimulus cash even after sharply criticizing the program.

Ryan had denied doing so as recently as Wednesday, when he spoke to ABC’s Cincinnati affiliate, WCPO, in Ohio.

“I never asked for stimulus,” Ryan said. “I don’t recall… so I really can’t comment on it. I opposed the stimulus because it doesn’t work, it didn’t work.”

Two years ago, during an interview on WBZ’s NewsRadio he was asked by a caller if he “accepted any money” into his district. Ryan said he did not.

“I’m not one [of those] people who votes for something then writes to the government to ask them to send us money. I did not request any stimulus money,” the congressman answered.

But as we’ve now learned, Ryan did write letters. He did request stimulus funds.

(...)

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/presented-with-letters-ryan-admits-requesting-stimulus-cash/



Article links to pdf with four letters from Paul Ryan to Steven Chu begging for government money

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Presented with letters, Ryan admits requesting stimulus funds (Original Post) Enrique Aug 2012 OP
He lies....until he gets caught riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #1
And then they "clarify' Orrex Aug 2012 #43
Same as Mitt, I think his latest 13% is an outright lie flamingdem Aug 2012 #75
And the media & their voters let them. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #85
New Romney / Ryan Campaign Slogan: BUY ONE ETCH-A-SKETCH - GET ONE FREE! vkkv Aug 2012 #80
Fuck this wiener.... WCGreen Aug 2012 #2
...Who drove the Oscar Meyer WeinerMobile! Cotopaxi Aug 2012 #13
that's cool.... WCGreen Aug 2012 #14
BWAHAHAHA! sakabatou Aug 2012 #3
R&R campaign is a trainwreck maddezmom Aug 2012 #4
They aren't. russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #7
They aren't. Amonester Aug 2012 #22
I'm sad they decided to announce in Norfolk Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #71
But Romney/Ryan's got what voters crave! demwing Aug 2012 #100
I Find It Funny.... Grassy Knoll Aug 2012 #5
Oopsie. Pants on fire. yardwork Aug 2012 #6
NEW NAME FOR HIM: PAUL PANTS-ON-FIRE Ryan! DavidL Aug 2012 #50
"LYin' Ryan" is good..first I saw it..right here. Cha Aug 2012 #51
"LYin' Ryan" it is, then! DavidL Aug 2012 #56
"Lyin' Ryan" is brilliant! yardwork Aug 2012 #86
You have to put him with Mitt the twit! DavidL Aug 2012 #94
What a team. Mitt the Twit and Lyin' Ryan. yardwork Aug 2012 #95
"Oh you mean STIMULUS stimulus!" nolabear Aug 2012 #8
I used this earlier tonight and I will use it again... corkhead Aug 2012 #9
keep it in your 'copy-paste' memory... it's gonna get a lotta use! tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #19
Greasy little toad. secondvariety Aug 2012 #10
I think that is the nicest thing we can say! n/t marew Aug 2012 #31
Smiling, lying, Ryan... and a Ayn Rand worshiper..disaster. The GOP..party of the lost! crunch60 Aug 2012 #11
And they vetted this clown?! Seriously?! WestSeattle2 Aug 2012 #12
No one vetted him. No one vetted Romney. No one vetted Palin. randome Aug 2012 #20
In all fairness jberryhill Aug 2012 #52
Yeah - he is a replican Cosmocat Aug 2012 #67
I misread as 'repelican'! I like it. louis-t Aug 2012 #74
Awww...but they're purty, ain't they? Ain't that enuff? nt MADem Aug 2012 #101
Not only is he a fucking liar, he's stupid as well to think those letters would never surface! williesgirl Aug 2012 #15
He is definitely not very bright! marew Aug 2012 #32
Skeeveball, skeeveball, skeeveball, skeeveball. valerief Aug 2012 #16
Not Ready For Prime Time Player railsback Aug 2012 #17
No wonder Mitt felt a connection. n/t ejbr Aug 2012 #18
You lie! Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #21
not ready for prime time Ryan.... BREMPRO Aug 2012 #23
It's amazing Flatpicker Aug 2012 #24
What a piece of shit. nt. Blue Idaho Aug 2012 #25
ryan --- what a bald faced liar and ass Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #26
I Try not to judge people by their appearance or mannerisms, however I must say this. lumpy Aug 2012 #27
"Lying Ryan" and "Lying Mitt" goclark Aug 2012 #28
The lie isn't the only thing to consider. Is this quote from Ryan on the ABC blog really accurate? RickFromMN Aug 2012 #29
"Just business as usual being done in my name without my knowledge b/c I was beac Aug 2012 #33
Typical Randian Republican Roach... AzDar Aug 2012 #30
Apparently, his memory has "gone Galt". beac Aug 2012 #34
Atlas Recanted Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #35
+1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #81
And Nobody seems to be paying attention outsideworld Aug 2012 #36
Wrong. Hate to disappoint you, but DEAD wrong. ABC news called him on it and reported it. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #82
Can't trust him brush Aug 2012 #37
Where I come from, which is Earth, we call that LYING. May be different in Janesville. n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #38
I know l lots of people from Janesville AllyCat Aug 2012 #73
If the stimulus were so unsuccessful, why did Paul Ryan continuously ask for it? Firebrand Gary Aug 2012 #39
He got Social Security when his father died and he wants to destroy that too lunatica Aug 2012 #103
He is such a little piece of shit. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #40
I wonder what would be the best PAC to donate to for THIS in a commercial? Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #41
Lyin' Ryan. There's a surprise. n/t Beartracks Aug 2012 #42
They're fucked. harmonicon Aug 2012 #44
Rapidly morphing into Dan Quayle Zambero Aug 2012 #45
"You can't hide your Ryan lies" DFW Aug 2012 #46
awesome! veganlush Aug 2012 #55
Classic! adicortez Aug 2012 #60
!!! ROFL !!! alcibiades_mystery Aug 2012 #68
Porkies! Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2012 #47
A great vampire squid...relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money PurityOfEssence Aug 2012 #48
Ugh. Thanks for the day-mares! randome Aug 2012 #61
Rachel Maddow does wonders with this story tonight DavidL Aug 2012 #49
Thank you for the link! Quantess Aug 2012 #62
Looks like the Washington Post was watching her last night: DFW Aug 2012 #87
Poor Paul he for that The Recovery Act was what he voted.. Historic NY Aug 2012 #53
He's a hypocrite just like his idol Ayn Rand, area51 Aug 2012 #54
All lies.. billky Aug 2012 #57
LOL adicortez Aug 2012 #59
Jeez adicortez Aug 2012 #58
Bwahahaha, just wait until the debates! Wednesdays Aug 2012 #63
He retroactively didn't ask for stimulus funds, . . . tclambert Aug 2012 #64
meanwhile, the repugs are running ads newspeak Aug 2012 #97
Three Card Paulie. tanyev Aug 2012 #65
+1 Historic NY Aug 2012 #69
Well, in all fairness, klook Aug 2012 #66
My R Senator decried the Stimulus, while taking credit for it. These Liars have no shame. emulatorloo Aug 2012 #70
Dozens and dozens of Republicans did that! DavidL Aug 2012 #72
Does this mean his staff didn't do it? senseandsensibility Aug 2012 #76
Ryan rhymes with Lyin' freshwest Aug 2012 #77
Ryan spokesperson admits Ryan is employed by business interests DJ13 Aug 2012 #78
Hey, Eddie Munster, there's this awesome new invention called... catbyte Aug 2012 #79
"constituent service" what an ass TeamPooka Aug 2012 #83
You can SEE "LIAR" on his face Plucketeer Aug 2012 #84
He's off to a good start ailsagirl Aug 2012 #88
Does this episode show Ryan at the zenith of any honesty he will ever indepat Aug 2012 #89
K&R deutsey Aug 2012 #90
Dysfunctional. These kinds of people in positions of power are a danger to society. Gregorian Aug 2012 #91
hypocrite samsingh Aug 2012 #92
He is the same type of Catholic as Tony Soprano libodem Aug 2012 #93
POW!!! here's another one BrainMann1 Aug 2012 #96
"Avast Ye!" QUALITYCONTRoll Aug 2012 #98
oppsie, caught on tape again. wordpix Aug 2012 #99
What, a Republican LYING?! primavera Aug 2012 #102
I don't recall.. billky Aug 2012 #104
What a dumbass - this election vote GOP for Douchebag and Dumbass LynneSin Aug 2012 #105
Hahaha! Liar, liar, pants on fire, Ryan! bushisanidiot Aug 2012 #106

flamingdem

(39,332 posts)
75. Same as Mitt, I think his latest 13% is an outright lie
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 12:29 PM
Aug 2012

and he's just betting no one will be able to bust him on it.. at least not before Nov.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
80. New Romney / Ryan Campaign Slogan: BUY ONE ETCH-A-SKETCH - GET ONE FREE!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:23 PM
Aug 2012

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan on Thursday reversed course and acknowledged lobbying the government for millions of dollars in economic stimulus money after twice denying he had done so.

The Wisconsin congressman said he had forgotten that his office sent letters — with his signature — to the Energy and Labor departments asking for money from the stimulus program on behalf of two companies in his home state.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
14. that's cool....
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 09:11 PM
Aug 2012

I actually got to sit in the WeinderMobile when I was working at a radio station in my wild years...

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
22. They aren't.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 09:42 PM
Aug 2012

"liar, liar, pants on fire, both sides do it, always the same, let's watch dancing with the stars, now you're talking"

That's how democracy died.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
71. I'm sad they decided to announce in Norfolk
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 10:18 AM
Aug 2012

I don't want the city of my birth to be forever linked to this shitstorm of a campaign

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
100. But Romney/Ryan's got what voters crave!
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:51 PM
Aug 2012

Welcome to mourning in America. Please stand by for a chilling vision of your future:

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Cha

(297,772 posts)
51. "LYin' Ryan" is good..first I saw it..right here.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:35 AM
Aug 2012

In mob circles he would be known as paulie pants.

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
56. "LYin' Ryan" it is, then!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:02 AM
Aug 2012

I think this should stick to him like burnt butter on a skillet.

By the time October rolls around, we have:

"Mitt the Twit and LYin' Ryan"

Thanks to the British press for labeling Mitt as a twit in early August.

"LYin' Ryan": I'll take the credit, I didn't see any other place on the internet that put it out there before me.

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
94. You have to put him with Mitt the twit!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 07:53 PM
Aug 2012

It only works as a team,

You could add "Mitt the rich tax-scoffer twit"

But we all get the message with "Lyin' Ryan"

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
9. I used this earlier tonight and I will use it again...
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 08:50 PM
Aug 2012



I am looking forward to using this a lot between now and november.
 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
11. Smiling, lying, Ryan... and a Ayn Rand worshiper..disaster. The GOP..party of the lost!
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 08:58 PM
Aug 2012
Hummm...about that stimulus, let me see, I'll check, well, by golly, I did request stimulus money.... but I didn't know it....that's the ticket.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
52. In all fairness
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:36 AM
Aug 2012

He's been in Congress for several years and hasn't been indicted.

That's a pretty good record.

Cosmocat

(14,575 posts)
67. Yeah - he is a replican
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 09:03 AM
Aug 2012

Pretty much ANY republican VP pick, be it someone in congress or a governor, would be vulnerable on this one - screaming about how disastrous the stimulus was to negatively frame the president, while clawing for as much of it as they can.

marew

(1,588 posts)
32. He is definitely not very bright!
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:42 PM
Aug 2012

There's those videos on You Tube where he absolutely gushes over Ayn Rand.

BREMPRO

(2,331 posts)
23. not ready for prime time Ryan....
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 09:42 PM
Aug 2012

amazing that the mSmedia is actually doing it's job of scrutinizing him.. keep it up!!

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
24. It's amazing
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 09:46 PM
Aug 2012

How blatant this Campaign is Being run.

The Republicans had mastered the ability to dictate the message in the TV era.
I don't think they are getting the hang of the Internet era, where everybody can fact check you in seconds, and public records are easily attainable.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
27. I Try not to judge people by their appearance or mannerisms, however I must say this.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:09 PM
Aug 2012

Ryan sounds like a con man; not only because of his lying but he even has that nasal con man voice.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
28. "Lying Ryan" and "Lying Mitt"
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:17 PM
Aug 2012

How sweet it is.....!!!!

At least his memory didn't go south for too long.

RickFromMN

(478 posts)
29. The lie isn't the only thing to consider. Is this quote from Ryan on the ABC blog really accurate?
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:25 PM
Aug 2012

Thursday, Ryan responded to the questions himself.

“After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled,” Ryan said in a statement. “This is why I didn’t recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that....


I interpret Ryan's comment to mean he should not have helped his constituent obtain federal grant funds.

Would you like your company based in a district where your representative won't help you get available federal grant funds?

beac

(9,992 posts)
33. "Just business as usual being done in my name without my knowledge b/c I was
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:47 PM
Aug 2012

too busy being important and planning the destruction of American civilization...you gotta problem with that??"

Ah, the sweet smell of GOP "personal responsibility" befouls the air once again!

AllyCat

(16,233 posts)
73. I know l lots of people from Janesville
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:49 AM
Aug 2012

and none of them are pathological liars. I think it's just Republicans.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
103. He got Social Security when his father died and he wants to destroy that too
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:38 PM
Aug 2012

If it helps him, that's good. If it helps others, that's not good.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
41. I wonder what would be the best PAC to donate to for THIS in a commercial?
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 11:48 PM
Aug 2012

Or would it just be best to donate to the campaign directly?

All these options have me totally confused anymore.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
44. They're fucked.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 12:36 AM
Aug 2012

The media's going to have to try really hard to balance making this seem like a race and trying to get a Romney win (make no mistake, that's what they want) with shit like this out there. I think they'll choose trying to seem at least semi-relevant over getting their man in power.

Zambero

(8,974 posts)
45. Rapidly morphing into Dan Quayle
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 12:48 AM
Aug 2012

At least Quayle was a semi-honest idiot, unlike this year's vice-buffoon pick.

DFW

(54,447 posts)
46. "You can't hide your Ryan lies"
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 12:48 AM
Aug 2012

And your ads are a thin disguise
I thought by now you'd realize
There ain't no way to hide your Ryan lies.

PurityOfEssence

(13,150 posts)
48. A great vampire squid...relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:10 AM
Aug 2012

Safely rich and insatiably needy for more.

tip of the hat to Matt Taibbi...

area51

(11,925 posts)
54. He's a hypocrite just like his idol Ayn Rand,
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:26 AM
Aug 2012

who used Social Security and Medicare from the "evil gub'mint".

 

billky

(159 posts)
57. All lies..
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:31 AM
Aug 2012
How can Romney and Ryan, aka dumb and dumber, just keep lying so much and get away with it? They act like it's the norm. When they are caught, the media needs to come right out and ask them "why did you lie"? And Romney, they keep saying he thinks he can change the rules about his taxes, hate to tell you, but he has! And he's getting away with it.

adicortez

(47 posts)
59. LOL
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:43 AM
Aug 2012

Reminds me of a Harry S. Truman quote about Nixon: "Richard Nixon is a no good, lying bastard. He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and if he ever caught himself telling the truth, he'd lie just to keep his hand in."

adicortez

(47 posts)
58. Jeez
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:32 AM
Aug 2012

Sometimes their responses to allegations are more fucking despicable than the acts. "Blah blah I didn't do shit wrong... and I take responsibility for that"

Wednesdays

(17,439 posts)
63. Bwahahaha, just wait until the debates!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:45 AM
Aug 2012

"Mr. Biden, what is your response to what Mr. Ryan just said about the stimulus?"

It'd be like dishing up a hanging curveball to Mark McGwire!

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
64. He retroactively didn't ask for stimulus funds, . . .
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 07:06 AM
Aug 2012

after having previously asked for them. With Romney and Ryan you have to look at their retroactive positions, which you won't actually know until after the election, when they promise to reveal their secret plans. Unless they retroactively decide not to shred all the evidence.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
97. meanwhile, the repugs are running ads
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:54 AM
Aug 2012

after eight nightmare years of little boots with two wars while funneling the treasury to "loyal" global corporations and cutting taxes for their wealthy friends, instead of sacrificing because we are at war; that obama hasn't helped the economy. Obama compromised with these arseholes; sometimes to our detriment, while they did everything in their power to make sure the economy stayed in the toilet. To me, these repugs care nothing, nada, for the majority of the american people. All they care about is winning and watching out for their own portfolios.

klook

(12,171 posts)
66. Well, in all fairness,
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 09:00 AM
Aug 2012

it depends on what the meaning of "never" is. Clearly this Marxist interviewer was trying to trip him up with the truth, which has a well-known liberal bias.

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
72. Dozens and dozens of Republicans did that!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 10:38 AM
Aug 2012

Your Senator is not alone.

I even think Scott Brown, who was not in the Senate when it was passed, asked for $ for Mass, and then claimed he would have voted against it. That's some display of "retroactive" logic for a Republican.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
78. Ryan spokesperson admits Ryan is employed by business interests
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:17 PM
Aug 2012

“If Congressman Ryan is asked to help a Wisconsin entity applying for existing Federal grant funds, he does not believe flawed policy should get in the way of doing his job and providing a legitimate constituent service to his employers,” the spokesman told the Milwaukee (Wisc.) Journal Sentinel.


TeamPooka

(24,262 posts)
83. "constituent service" what an ass
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:03 PM
Aug 2012

"I was just doing what my corporate masters told me to do and get them federal money, it wasn't my idea..."
douche

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
84. You can SEE "LIAR" on his face
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:45 PM
Aug 2012

as he treies to beg off with an "I don't recall" deflectory shot. This lying ass hat didn't ask for stimulus just like Mitt "paid" all his taxes. They're perfect running mates - trying their damnedest to RUN from their records!

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
88. He's off to a good start
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:44 PM
Aug 2012

The MSM has picked this up!!

All I did was google

ryan romney taxes

and a got 51,600,000 search results!!

Keep it going, Lyin'

libodem

(19,288 posts)
93. He is the same type of Catholic as Tony Soprano
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 07:42 PM
Aug 2012

A Christian criminal. He has no conscious about flat out lying. They all worship money over any kind of principles or ethics. They all feel entitled to absolution because we are beneath them and don't deserve the truth.

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