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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:08 PM Feb 2018

GOP senator: 'The problem is not owning an AR-15'

Source: The Hill



BY BRETT SAMUELS - 02/18/18 10:57 AM EST

Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) said Sunday he supports improving the background check system for buying a weapon, but said he doesn’t think it needs to be harder to buy an AR-15, which was used in a Florida high school shooting last week.

“I actually don’t think it should be. I think what should be is difficult for any person with any kind of criminal background history, domestic violence, mental instability, all those things, regardless. I don’t care whether they’re buying a .22 pistol or an AR-15,” Lankford said on “Meet The Press.”

“The problem is not owning an AR-15, it’s the person that owns it,” Lankford added.

Nikolas Cruz, 19, faces 17 counts of premeditated murder after he allegedly opened fire at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., last Wednesday, killing 17 and wounding more than a dozen others. He reportedly used an AR-15 that he was able to purchase legally.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/374446-gop-senator-the-problem-is-not-owning-an-ar-15

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GOP senator: 'The problem is not owning an AR-15' (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
FU too. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #1
Stats show he's wrong. duforsure Feb 2018 #2
Yet AR sales increased during that time period Abnredleg Feb 2018 #6
Indeed cvoogt Feb 2018 #19
The problem is republicans. truthisfreedom Feb 2018 #3
There are mentally unstable people in all countries. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #4
This is Just Another Disgusting Parroting of the Irrational Argument, "Guns Don't Kill People..." dlk Feb 2018 #5
No, Senator, the problem IS the gun and its CAPACITY for mass killing B Stieg Feb 2018 #7
Take him down, kids. He's got coffers full of NRA money. Guilty as sin. mpcamb Feb 2018 #33
If they would actually vote for the platitudes they obfuscate about... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #8
He supports Rebl2 Feb 2018 #9
Same NRA argument OVER AND OVER AND OVER bluestarone Feb 2018 #10
Why not customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #22
Right wing whackos - if you want to take up arms against govt then go get your weapons off the Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2018 #11
The Supreme Court..... Toorich Feb 2018 #12
Yeah, a decision like that wouldn't have any unforeseen consequences. Calista241 Feb 2018 #23
Fuck you. Yes it is. Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #13
And he and climate denier Inhofe are my senators!! And son and DIL have Grassley and Ernst bobbieinok Feb 2018 #14
You have my sympathy! Ohiogal Feb 2018 #18
WRONG! No one needs to own an AR-15. No civilian needs an assault rifle. bitterross Feb 2018 #15
Another one who'd sacrifice his own child to the NRA! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #16
But, Ohiogal Feb 2018 #17
Lankford-----------(FUCK YOU) you got $18,995 of blood money, check out line 149 turbinetree Feb 2018 #20
Thank you. VOTE HIM OUT. (n/t) forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #25
Your welcome turbinetree Feb 2018 #32
I call B.S. Kber Feb 2018 #21
Lankford is my senator. KatyaR Feb 2018 #24
I'm very sorry... lastlib Feb 2018 #30
Taking money from the NRA needs to be made as offensive as taking it from the KKK. MGKrebs Feb 2018 #26
problem with THAT, Lankford (R - Fucking Asshole) Skittles Feb 2018 #27
Sorry Sanders randr Feb 2018 #28
He has a valid point. mwooldri Feb 2018 #29
Lankford you idiout dipsh&it--it's already illegal for felons to own firearms..... lastlib Feb 2018 #31
You know what else isn't a problem? BaronChocula Feb 2018 #34

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. Stats show he's wrong.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:14 PM
Feb 2018

When there was a assault weapon ban it WAS reduced, and the numbers showed it helped. I believe it said it was 37% less with it. That's not better Senator? Sounds like a NRA paid response to me. Republicans are essentially killing our kids , and refuse to stop this from continuing.

Abnredleg

(670 posts)
6. Yet AR sales increased during that time period
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:29 PM
Feb 2018

The AWB didn't hamper sales of rifles since the manufacturers just redesigned their weapons to make them legal. The issue is magazine fed semi-automatic rifles, and that's what needs to be dealt with.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
4. There are mentally unstable people in all countries.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:18 PM
Feb 2018

But even in countries where gun ownership is common, the rate of gun violence is vastly lower. Maybe that's because even gun-owning countries don't let people buy AR-15s.

dlk

(11,574 posts)
5. This is Just Another Disgusting Parroting of the Irrational Argument, "Guns Don't Kill People..."
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:24 PM
Feb 2018

Of course, if civilians didn't have access to weapons of war, they couldn't commit mass shootings. Take away the weapon, take away the outcome. Since the expiration of the previous assault weapons ban, in 2004, there has been a continuing escalation of mass shootings with assault weapons. In this case, correlation is causation.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
7. No, Senator, the problem IS the gun and its CAPACITY for mass killing
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:32 PM
Feb 2018

These weapons have nothing to do with self-defense unless you're under mass invasion, and we have an army to deal with that. AR-15's are "spray and slay" weapons.
You can't own a cruise missile for the same reasons; it's a mass killing device.
And the law is always interested in what motivates an action...

mpcamb

(2,872 posts)
33. Take him down, kids. He's got coffers full of NRA money. Guilty as sin.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 10:33 PM
Feb 2018

Get the mothers and kids to vote his Oklahoman ass out of office.

Wounded Bear

(58,685 posts)
8. If they would actually vote for the platitudes they obfuscate about...
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:33 PM
Feb 2018

I could take that as a start.

Typically, that is ordinary Repub blather. Not to be believed.

Rebl2

(13,539 posts)
9. He supports
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:33 PM
Feb 2018

improving background checks. Who doesn’t. Unfortunately background checks don’t always work. I seem to remember the Las Vegas shooter passed his background check. The only answer is to ban the sale of military weapons to individuals.

bluestarone

(17,012 posts)
10. Same NRA argument OVER AND OVER AND OVER
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:39 PM
Feb 2018

They are all singing it in Sync!!! like NRA gave each of them the same message!!!!!!!!!!!!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
22. Why not
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:10 PM
Feb 2018

It always works for them. Why do anything different if the news a week from now will surely be about something else? The American people have a short attention span, and that's why the "October surprise" is so powerful.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
11. Right wing whackos - if you want to take up arms against govt then go get your weapons off the
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:43 PM
Feb 2018

black market like every other self-respecting revolutionary on the planet. This idea that the second amendment means they can just go roll down to the local Walmart to get their weapons of mass destruction is just plain ludicrous.

Toorich

(391 posts)
12. The Supreme Court.....
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:45 PM
Feb 2018

can just rule that the Founding Fathers, when discussing the right to keep and bear arms, were obviously referencing
flintlocks. After all, the Court does have the "strict constructionist" republican appointees. So if we only have a right to
possess a flintlock then all other firearms can be totally regulated or banned. Easy peasy.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
23. Yeah, a decision like that wouldn't have any unforeseen consequences.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:20 PM
Feb 2018

God forbid they revisit the 1st, 4th, and other Amendments with a strict constructionist bent.

Even the 13th Amendment only abolishes slavery "except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted." Should we interpret that as it was written?

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
15. WRONG! No one needs to own an AR-15. No civilian needs an assault rifle.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:58 PM
Feb 2018

The ammosexual senator is just wrong.

Ohiogal

(32,036 posts)
17. But,
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:04 PM
Feb 2018

the Florida kid killer hadn't committed any crimes, so he wasn't in any crime database. At least he'd never been charged with any .... was the domestic violence incident brought to charges or not? Anyone know?

What these complete idiots like Lankford don't realize .... is that any cave dwelling mouth breather who gets riled up by Rush and Pox and their like-minded neighbors or family members or whatever, and who owns a gun, and gets foaming at the mouth enough about something, will go ahead and do something like this heinous massacre. If they didn't have the gun, the one that sprays bullets at a rapid pace, they wouldn't be able to do it. Period.

What good does it do to "report on someone who's acting wacky"? Good God, that's 90% of all Republicans!

turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
20. Lankford-----------(FUCK YOU) you got $18,995 of blood money, check out line 149
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:42 PM
Feb 2018
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-7PdCI2NawSgP1QE-cGYVYedetYqepR-4jBweaJyqFo/edit#gid=1782600961


Just by taking $18,995 dollars in money you have fucking blood on your hands................and just for debate asshole, you passed a law that gave immunity to gun manufactures to sell assault weapons to the public so that they would not beheld accountable--------------your a dick head





November 2018 cannot get here fast enough

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
24. Lankford is my senator.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:24 PM
Feb 2018

Tell me, you f***ing piece of shite, what the f*** do you need an AR-15 for? Are you going quail hunting with it?

You worthless shadow of a man, how much money have you taken from the NRA? You aren't worth the shit my dog produces every day....

(Sorry, I'm so fed up with the representation we have from Oklahoma, both local and national, that I want to puke. Thanks to these assholes, they're turning my state into a haven for the rich and a third-world country for everybody else.)

lastlib

(23,266 posts)
30. I'm very sorry...
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 06:43 PM
Feb 2018

You don't have a senator, you have Lankford and Inhofe. Corporate right-wing whores.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
26. Taking money from the NRA needs to be made as offensive as taking it from the KKK.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 03:55 PM
Feb 2018

The NRA needs to be made a pariah.
You can be a gun owner, and a hunter without supporting the horrid catastrophe that the NRA has brought upon this country.
Given the choice, reject any candidate who takes NRA money.

Skittles

(153,174 posts)
27. problem with THAT, Lankford (R - Fucking Asshole)
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 03:59 PM
Feb 2018

is YOU REPUKES DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE. You are perfectly happy ALLOWING THEM TO HAVE GUNS while DENYING THEM HEALTH CARE.

randr

(12,413 posts)
28. Sorry Sanders
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 04:03 PM
Feb 2018

Assault rifles belong in the hands of well trained and regulated militias, not the general public. Let alone children.
He really has his head up the NRA ass doesn't he?

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
29. He has a valid point.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 04:46 PM
Feb 2018

“The problem is not owning an AR-15, it’s the person that owns it."

Great! So gun licenses. Gun registration. Gun insurance. Where are they? There's none of that here in North Carolina, save for the need to get a permit to buy a handgun.

I don't think it should be harder to buy an AR 15 vs a double barreled shotgun. It should be harder to buy ANY gun.

There's also the issue of the ammunition and magazine capacity. In my opinion, high capacity magazines should not be available for civilian use.

lastlib

(23,266 posts)
31. Lankford you idiout dipsh&it--it's already illegal for felons to own firearms.....
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 06:52 PM
Feb 2018

The common thread in nearly all of these mass killings is that "they obtained the weapon(s) legally."

We need to ban the sale and purchase of these industrial-strength killing machines, and do it NOW--before another child dies from one. Run over the god-damned NRA, with an Abrams tank, if necessary. Same with their congressional toadies. I would personally drive one over Wayne LaPeeError's fetid carcass, without batting an eye, to save a kid from another massacre.

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