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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:06 PM Feb 2018

UPDATED - Florida Gov. Rick Scott Announces Plans to Prohibit Firearm Sales to People Under 21

Last edited Fri Feb 23, 2018, 03:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Mediate

by Lawrence Bonk | 11:49 am, February 23rd, 2018




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Scott said that the mandatory age to be able to purchase a firearm in the state will now be 21. Previously, it was 18 for some types of firearms and 21 for others.

“We will require all individuals purchasing firearms to be 21 or older,” he said. “There will be exceptions for active duty and reserve military and spouses, National Guard members and law enforcement.” The governor did not note whether this would applies to private sales — which would potentially be an easy loophole for those under 21.

Additionally, the Florida Republican stated that every public school will now be required to have a law enforcement officer on site at all times.

Scott also proposed $500,000 to help fund mental health and school safety initiatives.


Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/donald-trump/florida-gov-rick-scott-announces-plans-to-prohibit-firearm-sales-to-people-under-21/



UPDATE

Florida governor breaks with Trump on arming teachers

BY JOSH DELK - 02/23/18 01:41 PM EST

Republican Florida Gov. Rick Scott is breaking with President Trump on the idea of arming teachers to deter mass shootings in the wake of a school shooting in south Florida that left 17 people dead.

"Let law enforcement do the keeping us safe, and let teachers focus on teaching," Scott reportedly said Friday, the same day Trump endorsed the idea of putting guns in teachers' hands at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC).

Scott has long been expected to mount a 2018 Senate bid against Sen. Bill Nelson (D), but he has yet to announce whether or not he's running. The deadly shooting last week has thrust both Florida and gun policies back into the national spotlight.

Trump, who met this week with survivors of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, said on Twitter that guns in the hands of "adept teachers with military or special training experience" could prevent future shootings.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/375291-florida-governor-breaks-with-trump-on-arming-teachers
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UPDATED - Florida Gov. Rick Scott Announces Plans to Prohibit Firearm Sales to People Under 21 (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
Wow I'm shocked njhoneybadger Feb 2018 #1
Good 1st step! But much more is needed!! quartz007 Feb 2018 #27
$500k? So they can SPEND money to prop up the NRA. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #2
500K has to be an error....might as well say zero. How much are the armed guards going to cost? Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #9
Just so he can say he did something. But at least it IS something. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #12
Said, in article I read, law enforcement to be present....armed I would think. Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #13
The tide is turning. Keep up the pressure on NRA leadership. Expose the leaders Freethinker65 Feb 2018 #3
Works for alcohol. LOL mobeau69 Feb 2018 #4
raise the age is good BUT HOW MANY LOOPHOLES ARE INVOLVED bluestarone Feb 2018 #5
Right, the devil is in the details njhoneybadger Feb 2018 #7
Imagine if the age to buy alcohol was 21 ... DBoon Feb 2018 #31
Do guns owned by those under 21 have to be turned in? Renew Deal Feb 2018 #6
Good BeyondGeography Feb 2018 #8
But those over 21 with Mental Illness HockeyMom Feb 2018 #10
That's not exactly what happened. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #20
A start, but let's consider socialist cyclist Feb 2018 #11
They want to pass a law that will requires schools to pay out millions for armed guards. KWR65 Feb 2018 #14
This phucker is running for a Florida Senate TheDebbieDee Feb 2018 #15
Keep up the pressure! backtoblue Feb 2018 #16
Gosh. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #17
or a 19 year old who was given the weapon by a 21 year old DBoon Feb 2018 #32
Private sales are a big loophole that he should be pressured to answer IronLionZion Feb 2018 #18
TOO. Little.Scott packman Feb 2018 #19
Gov Voldemort, pivoting to the "center" in advance of his senate run against Nelson mcar Feb 2018 #21
This will not pass the Florida House. None of it n GulfCoast66 Feb 2018 #22
Yup durablend Feb 2018 #25
There are 4200 public schools in Florida VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #23
Stop it! Stop thinking this through. You're ruining it for the conservatives. ffr Feb 2018 #29
Geeeez, you'd almost thing Scott was running for office or something. Oh, wait... Scalded Nun Feb 2018 #24
rick scott doing something not only NOT horrible, but that I can agree with? BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2018 #26
Just another way to blame young people SHRED Feb 2018 #28
Apparently not good enough. ffr Feb 2018 #30
 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
27. Good 1st step! But much more is needed!!
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 02:56 PM
Feb 2018

But think about what was common thread between all school mass shootings beginning with Columbine?

Answer: All were gun free zones. No teacher was allowed to carry firearms. And there were no armed guards and metal screening machines at entrances. The solution to children's safety is staring us in the face. We just need to open our eyes and engage our brains.

More evidence: Attacks on school attending children in Israel dropped by 99% since teachers are allowed to carry firearms and armed guards are present at schools.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
2. $500k? So they can SPEND money to prop up the NRA.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:09 PM
Feb 2018

But spending money to keep poll places open in disadvantaged areas....too expensive!

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. 500K has to be an error....might as well say zero. How much are the armed guards going to cost?
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:18 PM
Feb 2018

The 21 age law is just more cowardice, a single bandage on a gaping wound.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. Just so he can say he did something. But at least it IS something.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:24 PM
Feb 2018

He didn't say armed guards, did he? Just "security." That could mean locks, bullet proof doors, a lot of things.

bluestarone

(16,990 posts)
5. raise the age is good BUT HOW MANY LOOPHOLES ARE INVOLVED
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:12 PM
Feb 2018

I'm sure AFTER discussions with the NRA took place

DBoon

(22,377 posts)
31. Imagine if the age to buy alcohol was 21 ...
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 03:31 PM
Feb 2018

... But there was an exemption for buying liquor at swap meets

How effective do you think the ban would be?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
20. That's not exactly what happened.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 02:03 PM
Feb 2018

It didn't exempt all mental health illnesses, or even a meaningful correlation. The ACLU opposed it, and detailed why.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/disability-rights/gun-control-laws-should-be-fair?page=1#comments-top

The law was not honorable/useful/meaningful. The correct solution is to craft a different type of law. It potentially impacted about 75,000 people. There are a LOT more people with mental health issues that disqualify them from firearms purchase or possession, via more credible means.

11. A start, but let's consider
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:20 PM
Feb 2018

states assessing a tax on assault weapons. If we can't get the feds to ban them, let's pressure states to tax them based on the costs of medical needs for victims of mass shootings. So sure, you could buy an AR-15 for $400, but you would also pay an ANNUAL tax of $10,000 to cover medical bills for victims.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
14. They want to pass a law that will requires schools to pay out millions for armed guards.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:31 PM
Feb 2018

Where are the schools going to get this money? I guess they will close sports programs and lay off teachers.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
15. This phucker is running for a Florida Senate
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:32 PM
Feb 2018

Seat this fall - he's liable to say ANYTHING to get votes! Plus it's only up to him to sign off on this legislation - State legislature has to craft the bill first...

backtoblue

(11,344 posts)
16. Keep up the pressure!
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:45 PM
Feb 2018

This is a step in the right direction. Keep it up until weapons of war are out of civilian hands!

Jedi Guy

(3,204 posts)
17. Gosh.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:46 PM
Feb 2018

I'm sure future mass shooting victims will be relieved they're being murdered by a 21 year old instead of a 19 year old...

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
19. TOO. Little.Scott
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 01:54 PM
Feb 2018

Guy is throwing a crumb at the whole thing. Only thing on his mind is he now has something to put on his Senate run resume when the creep leaves office, "I made a stand for gun control".

He's a weasel of the first order

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
22. This will not pass the Florida House. None of it n
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 02:19 PM
Feb 2018

And Scott knows it. He is just posturing for a run against Nelson.

VMA131Marine

(4,140 posts)
23. There are 4200 public schools in Florida
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 02:23 PM
Feb 2018

The cost to put a law enforcement officer in every one of them, assuming $150,000/year for pay, benefits, and fixed costs will be $630,000,000. Now imagine what each school could do with $150,000 for their educational mission. And this still doesn't guarantee another Parkland will not happen again.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
24. Geeeez, you'd almost thing Scott was running for office or something. Oh, wait...
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 02:43 PM
Feb 2018

He is pushing (or at least says he is) for something he knows won't happen. That is the easiest thing in the world to do.

Florida, if you elect this asswipe to the US Senate you deserve all the grief you get. He has pulled this crap over and over again, promises up until the election only to backtrack once (re)elected. Wise up FL!!

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