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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 08:32 AM Feb 2018

German court opens the way for bans of diesel vehicles, roiling a nation of car obsessives

Source: The Washington Post




By Griff Witte February 27 at 6:30 AM

BERLIN — A senior German court ruled Tuesday that the country’s towns and cities can ban diesel vehicles in the interests of promoting cleaner air, a decision with vast potential implications for the automotive industry, the car-owning public and the environment.

The ruling, by Germany’s top administrative court, clears the way for local authorities to prohibit millions of cars now on German roadways from entering congested areas where residents choke on air that routinely exceeds the legal limits. It does not, however, mandate such bans.

The decision was closely watched in a country whose fervor for cars— engineering them, manufacturing them and driving them — is enduring. But the love affair has been tainted in recent years by scandal. The 2015 revelation that Volkswagen cheated on emissions tests cast a particularly long shadow on an industry that employs some 800,000 Germans.

Tuesday’s decision represents another critical blow for carmakers, and for German authorities who had been seeking an excuse not to anger voters by instituting bans.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/german-court-opens-the-way-for-bans-of-diesel-vehicles-roiling-a-nation-of-car-obsessives/2018/02/27/da634514-1717-11e8-930c-45838ad0d77a_story.html

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German court opens the way for bans of diesel vehicles, roiling a nation of car obsessives (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
Doesn't matter... Grins Feb 2018 #1
been feasible a long time Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #3
It was the pollution issue that convinced me not to go diesel here DFW Feb 2018 #2
For me it was the Army...! Grins Feb 2018 #4

Grins

(7,231 posts)
1. Doesn't matter...
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 11:34 AM
Feb 2018

It going to come, the death of the diesel. And then the combustion engine.

Two HUGE markets have already set dates when combustion engines will no longer be allowed - India and China.

World's largest battery manufacturer? CATL. In China.

This week Chrysler said they are phasing out diesel-powered engines in favor of battery-electric vehicles.

Bloomberg: "Battery-powered cars will make up about half of the global automotive market by 2030..."

Want to buy a BMW? Live in NJ? NJ's Public Service Electric & Gas company is offering a $10,000 rebate to any customer who buys a new, battery powered BMW i3. (Offer expires April 30, 2018.)

An electric car is in your future, whether you like it or not.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,438 posts)
3. been feasible a long time
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 08:14 PM
Feb 2018

For most commuter traffic, a battery powered vehicle has been suitable since about the 1960s. The biggest problem is the existence of multiple revenue streams from internal combustion engine (I.C.E.) vehicles.

DFW

(54,443 posts)
2. It was the pollution issue that convinced me not to go diesel here
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 03:08 PM
Feb 2018

Here in Germany, diesel is cheaper in the long run, but dirtier. I went lead-free years before it became mandatory here, and before lead-free gasoline was available everywhere. I just figured it was THEIR air, and I wasn't about to pollute it any more than I would have back home.

Grins

(7,231 posts)
4. For me it was the Army...!
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 06:05 PM
Feb 2018

I was an armor officer in a tank battalion. We had 17 tanks, all with diesel engines. I can still remember the smell of diesel and its exhaust, plus getting it on your skin and clothing. It still annoys me to the point that if I come near a car or bus burning diesel, it reminds me of those tanks. I would never get a car with a diesel because of that stink.

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