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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 08:24 PM Feb 2018

ICE arrests undocumented dad while gardening

Source: ABC News

Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrested a man in his backyard yesterday in California in a video captured by his wife.

Helena Ponce told Los Angeles ABC affiliate KABC that ICE went into the family's backyard in Napa, California, asked her husband his name and arrested him without any problems. His daughter also watched as multiple ICE agents put him in their car.

Ponce's husband, 39, immigrated to the U.S. from Mexico when he was 4 years old, according to his family.



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/ice-arrests-undocumented-california-dad-gardening-backyard/story?id=53362306&id=53362306&__twitter_impression=true



Link to ABC Video. http://abcn.ws/2sVOwW1


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ICE arrests undocumented dad while gardening (Original Post) laserhaas Feb 2018 OP
ICE aint gping nowhere unless we win elections. And stop primarying democrats. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #1
"And stop primarying democrats." ..why? Voters NEED to follow more, not less. vkkv Feb 2018 #6
"old Dems" ... Lord. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #35
Yes, that's correct - So, you can read. vkkv Mar 2018 #36
LOL NurseJackie Mar 2018 #37
the real gestapo kicked in doors at night. more dramatic nt msongs Feb 2018 #2
That is so fucked up! SunSeeker Feb 2018 #3
Thugs working for the Big Thug. SharonClark Feb 2018 #4
ICE Agents must be very proud of themselves laserhaas Feb 2018 #5
Kick and recommend for visibility of this evil deed. bronxiteforever Feb 2018 #7
Holy shit, WTF?? klook Feb 2018 #8
ICEd Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #9
Great question. laserhaas Feb 2018 #10
I thought the Fucking Moron said he would "punish" CA for not adhering BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #11
Is this real? Same guy? ggccvvtt Feb 2018 #12
wow - this does not exactly paint him in a good light. BadGimp Feb 2018 #13
It does not. ggccvvtt Feb 2018 #14
ICE Already knew, for years, where this guy was laserhaas Feb 2018 #15
Looks like they carefully chose this guy. joshcryer Feb 2018 #16
Exactly! laserhaas Feb 2018 #17
He was last deported in 2010 hack89 Feb 2018 #20
I'm not saying he was a saint. joshcryer Feb 2018 #30
Definitely need more details; but it does sound like laserhaas Feb 2018 #34
Your math doesn't add up hack89 Feb 2018 #19
Concurrent sentences? melm00se Feb 2018 #22
He was deported in 2010 for the fourth time hack89 Feb 2018 #23
Pure intimidation meant to instill fear into all immigrants! Damn I hate Trump! riversedge Feb 2018 #18
Me too...for more reasons than you could probably figure laserhaas Feb 2018 #21
First they came for the "illegal immigrants"... Initech Feb 2018 #24
This guy is a convicted felon with a history of gang membership and four deportations hack89 Feb 2018 #25
Yup..deport..or lock em up for life (for profit prisons need $$$) laserhaas Feb 2018 #27
Just deport. hack89 Feb 2018 #29
What we don't have...are enough GAF ...people laserhaas Feb 2018 #31
Offenders become dirty again when they offend again. hack89 Feb 2018 #32
Republican family values at work SHRED Feb 2018 #26
Values...schmalues laserhaas Feb 2018 #28
IDK laserhaas Feb 2018 #33
Undocumented but a documented gang member with 4 deportations and prior convictions Devil Child Mar 2018 #38
 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
6. "And stop primarying democrats." ..why? Voters NEED to follow more, not less.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 08:46 PM
Feb 2018

In case you haven't noticed but old Dems haven't been winning all that much these days..

It is now the new, younger, progressives that are now winning.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
36. Yes, that's correct - So, you can read.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 12:58 AM
Mar 2018

The need to bring younger progressives into the ranks has NEVER been more clear.

I guess you missed that.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
11. I thought the Fucking Moron said he would "punish" CA for not adhering
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 01:01 AM
Feb 2018

to his immigration policies with Sanctuary State status and was going to take all of the immigration that "protect" CA residents out of the state? When is he going to do us this favor?!? I feel like we are living in Nazi Germany.

 

ggccvvtt

(24 posts)
12. Is this real? Same guy?
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 01:50 AM
Feb 2018

ICE's statement on the arrest...

"On Sunday, Feb. 25, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) San Francisco Fugitive Operations Team arrested ICE fugitive Armando Nuñez-Salgado, 38, a citizen of Mexico and documented Sureño gang member, who has been previously removed by ICE on four prior occasions. Over the past 18 years he has accumulated criminal convictions in California that have resulted in more than 15 years of prison sentencings. His criminal convictions include assault with a deadly weapon (statutorily enhanced because of his gang member status), burglary, hit-and-run causing injury and evading a peace officer."

https://www.ice.gov/most-wanted/nunez

 

ggccvvtt

(24 posts)
14. It does not.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 02:17 AM
Feb 2018

This is right in my back yard (San Francisco). If that statement is factual, my opinion on this changes.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
15. ICE Already knew, for years, where this guy was
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 07:09 AM
Feb 2018

His criminal past and exit from prison was over 15 years ago. Trump's Administration had him arrested, to make a proof of Trump's points - that it is all thugs.

He was arrested for criminal past; but was not - as the posted bulletin in comment above states - whereabouts unknown - armed and dangerous.

Feds brought extra large team.and camera crew - in hopes of documenting flight -but the surrender was peaceful.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/ice-arrests-father-california-821891%3famp=1

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
16. Looks like they carefully chose this guy.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 07:18 AM
Feb 2018

Find someone who hasn't been arrested on any charges in years, someone who has been here for quite some time, whose major arrests are deportation in that time. Make sure it's someone who has a sordid history in their youth. They're trying to normalize the deportation of people here since they were kids, so that they can go after many others with less scary backgrounds.

Give it time and we'll start seeing young Latinos who were brought here when they were 3-4 years old getting deported over a DUI or something.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
20. He was last deported in 2010
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:04 AM
Feb 2018

He was deport several times before that after he finished his prison sentences. He is a violent felon.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
30. I'm not saying he was a saint.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 02:50 PM
Feb 2018

I'm saying cases like this open up the normalization of getting rid of people who have led less sordid lives here.

Dude is a perfect case of someone who may or may not have reformed who is easy pickings. There are probably a lot of guys out there like that.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
19. Your math doesn't add up
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:01 AM
Feb 2018

He is 38 years old. If he spent 15 years in prison then he did not exit prison 15 years ago.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
23. He was deported in 2010 for the fourth time
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 01:03 PM
Feb 2018

he has not been living peacefully for 15 years. He is a violent felon with a long and recent history of gang membership.

I am not a big fan of ICE but I don't question them about this - this is a guy we don't want in America.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
25. This guy is a convicted felon with a history of gang membership and four deportations
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 01:33 PM
Feb 2018

he spent most of his adult time in America in prison.

He is exactly the type of person that needs to be deported.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
27. Yup..deport..or lock em up for life (for profit prisons need $$$)
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 01:41 PM
Feb 2018

Or...just give for profit prisons $1 million to execute them

Once a sinner ..always worthless

Shheesshh!

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
31. What we don't have...are enough GAF ...people
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 02:54 PM
Feb 2018

In our Jewish faith, sins are forgiven when asked 10 times

And the offender is clean by doing it- no more.

By your logic, the white race should be shot - sent to hell

hack89

(39,171 posts)
32. Offenders become dirty again when they offend again.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 03:08 PM
Feb 2018

illegally re-entering the country several times and maintaining your gang affiliations makes you dirty.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
28. Values...schmalues
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 01:43 PM
Feb 2018

We don't no stinkin immigrants

The good old days when it was just Irish, Italian and other white only mobs coming to America

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
38. Undocumented but a documented gang member with 4 deportations and prior convictions
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 01:48 AM
Mar 2018
EDITOR'S NOTE: Since the arrest, ABC7 News has learned that the man referenced in this story was later identified as Armando Nunez-Salgado, a documented Sureno gang member who was removed by ICE four times and has several previous criminal convictions. At the time of his arrest, his family told ABC7 News that he did nothing wrong as documented in the story above.

http://abc7news.com/society/napa-family-devastated-after-ice-arrests-father/3140321/

There are many other victims of Trump's war against dreamers to highlight. Mr. Nunez-Salgado is no victim and was rightfully detained if his ICE wanted page is correct. No outrage to dispense in this case.

He can garden with his fellow gang members elsewhere.

Good job ICE.
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