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Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:38 PM Aug 2012

Syria makes veiled hint of Bashar al-Assad resignation

Source: The Telegraph

"As for his resignation, making his resignation a condition for dialogue effectively makes holding such a dialogue impossible," he said. "During the negotiating process any issues can be discussed, and we are ready to discuss even this issue."

Most Syrian opposition parties and rebels fighting inside the country have said they will not accept any solution to the crisis short of Mr Assad's resignation. The west has taken a similar stance, backing an Arab League proposal under which he would hand power to his vice-president, Farouq al-Sharaa.

Russia has backed an alternative approach under which the regime holds negotiations with internal opposition leaders to promote a "political transition plan" whose end result would be decided during the talks. Rebels fear such a plan would simply be an excuse to win time for the regime.

Mr Jamil also dismissed a warning by President Barack Obama that any hint of the deployment or transfer of Syria's chemical weapons was a "red line" that would trigger American intervention. "Obama's threats are simply propaganda linked to the US elections," he said.

"Obama's threats are simply propaganda linked to the US elections," he said.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9490867/Syria-makes-veiled-hint-of-Bashar-al-Assad-resignation.html



Basically, you have the West in the form of the United States and Britain (and probably others) funding the rebels in much the same way as we did the Lybian rebels and most of the rebel groups/juntas the US has given a "helping hand" to in the past. Which puts us at odds with Russia, who doesn't want to lose control of the influence it has over Syria in the form of a hard revolution reset.

Interestingly enough, I think both (the US and Russia) want Assad out and know his position is untenable. But they each want to steer how it actually happens so as to benefit them the most. The position that Russia is in currently is basically the position the United States was in during the fall of Mubarak in Egypt.

Everybody's got their favorite dictators.

PB
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Syria makes veiled hint of Bashar al-Assad resignation (Original Post) Poll_Blind Aug 2012 OP
This could be an opening for a negotiated settlement. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #1
The Syrian rebels are being funded primarily by Syrians oberliner Aug 2012 #2
I asked Google who funds Syria rebels, and here's what I got: Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #4
Good info oberliner Aug 2012 #5
This is not a change in position for the Syrian government. David__77 Aug 2012 #3
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
1. This could be an opening for a negotiated settlement.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:45 PM
Aug 2012

Unless everybody holds out for absolute victory, in which case Syria will be a smoking ruin for years to come.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. The Syrian rebels are being funded primarily by Syrians
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 04:00 PM
Aug 2012

Wealthy Syrian businessmen and expats as well as Saudia Arabia and Qatar.

That's where the vast majority of the funding is coming from.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
4. I asked Google who funds Syria rebels, and here's what I got:
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 05:12 PM
Aug 2012

The Gulf States, Saudi Arabia, Britain, US, Syrian businessman...

Gulf-sponsored: Multi-million monthly cash-flow for Syrian rebels — RT
rt.com/news/snc-gulf-countries-fund-rebels-972/
Apr 1, 2012
Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states are creating a multimillion-dollar fund to bankroll the Syrian rebels ...

Fund Syria's rebels — but be honest about it - Yahoo! News Canada ca.news.yahoo.com/fund-syria’s-rebels-—-but-be-honest-abo... - CanadaCached
1 day ago – From Yahoo! News Canada: It's probably a good thing that Canada's Department of Foreign Affairs wasn't in charge of covertly supporting the ...

UK offers new funding to Syria's rebels - Yahoo! News news.yahoo.com/uk-offers-funding-syrias-rebels-083545218.htmlCached
Aug 10, 2012 – From Yahoo! News: Britain's government offered 5 million pounds (US$7.8 million) to Syria's rebel forces Friday to pay for communications ...

Saudi Arabia plans to fund Syria rebel army | World news | The ... www.guardian.co.uk › News › World news › SyriaCached
Jun 22, 2012 – Exclusive: Command centre in Turkey organising weapon supply to opposition.

UK Offers More Nonlethal Aid to Syria's Opposition - ABC News abcnews.go.com › InternationalYou +1'd this publicly. Undo
Aug 10, 2012 – Font Sizes. Britain's government is giving an extra 5 million pounds (US$7.8 million) worth of aid to Syria's opposition, supplying items including ...

UK to fund Syria's rebels? - Salon.com www.salon.com/2012/08/.../uk_offers_new_funding_to_syrias_rebel...Cached
Aug 10, 2012 – The British government offered a substantial sum to Syria's rebel forces for communications and medical supplies.

Getting money to the right people: the problems of funding Syria's ... www.thenational.ae/.../getting-money-to-the-right-people-the-proble...Cached
The rebels hold no territory and struggle even to maintain communications inside and outside Syria, there is no clear way to deliver funds promised at a ...

Saudi Arabia and Qatar funding Syrian rebels | Reuters www.reuters.com/.../us-syria-crisis-saudi-idUSBRE85M0782012062...Cached
Jun 23, 2012 – JEDDAH, Saudi Arabia (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia and Qatar are paying salaries to rebel forces fighting in the Syrian revolt against President ...

Fund launched to back Syrian rebels - Aljazeera www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/.../201266133319930526.htmlCached
Jun 6, 2012 – Syrian businessmen creates $300m fund based in Doha to help rebel forces, as violence continues across the country.

Free Syrian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_ArmyCached
Composed of defected Syrian Armed Forces personnel and volunteers, ..... in the south of Syria that resulted in the death of two rebel and six loyalist soldiers, ..... clearance from the U.S. Treasury Department to fund the Free Syrian Army.

David__77

(23,423 posts)
3. This is not a change in position for the Syrian government.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 04:09 PM
Aug 2012

But it doesn't matter one bit, because the armed opposition will not engage in any talks with the Syrian government.

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