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highplainsdem

(48,984 posts)
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 08:39 PM Apr 2018

'Stormy Effect': Trump's support falls with women, rises with men in new poll

Source: The Hill

Support from women fell from 41 percent to 35 percent in the new Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll, even as Trump’s support among men rose 3 points to 53 percent.

Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll co-director Mark Penn said the growing gender gap in the poll is the result of the “Stormy Effect.”

“While President Trump’s overall ratings are stable, his support increased among men and dropped among women,” Penn said. “This poll was taken right after the Stormy Daniels interview and so I think this increased gender polarization is the ‘Stormy Effect’.”

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Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/381328-stormy-effect-trumps-support-falls-with-women-rises-with-men-in-new



Discouraging as it is that Trump might be gaining support among men, there was some better news with this poll:

57% of voters said they'd like to see Dems win control of the Senate (51% of men and 63% of women). The poll got similar results when asking about control of the House.

When asked about which party's candidate they'd vote for in their own districts, voters favored Dems by a 45-34 margin. But again, this was mostly due to women, who favored Dems 49-26. Male voters were essentially split on the question.


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'Stormy Effect': Trump's support falls with women, rises with men in new poll (Original Post) highplainsdem Apr 2018 OP
We need to motivate these women to vote. More female candidates. bettyellen Apr 2018 #1
There are many qualified women running this year at all levels crazycatlady Apr 2018 #4
What the hell is wrong with the men that support this total jerk that is the absolute worst democratisphere Apr 2018 #2
Well...I don't support him. PatrickforO Apr 2018 #3
Its men that brought us Trump, so its a valid question. WTF, men? bettyellen Apr 2018 #6
Black men voted Clinton over Trump by 67 points, Latino men by 29 points. Meanwhile, white women progree Apr 2018 #7
Yes, whites too. But of all races, men put him over the top. bettyellen Apr 2018 #8
So let's not condemn all men or exonerate all women progree Apr 2018 #9
Lets not lie and say I condemned anyone? You should learn to listen, perhaps? bettyellen Apr 2018 #13
Yeah you did. "It's men that brought us Trump, so its a valid question. WTF, Men?" progree Apr 2018 #14
Thats a question we need to be asking. Dem men are lagging in activism and support why? bettyellen Apr 2018 #15
You seem to believe that an accurate observation is the same as a condemnation. LanternWaste Apr 2018 #22
I don't like to be "WTF MEN?"'d and blamed for Trump. I did NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP progree Apr 2018 #23
All the more reason more women need to be elected to office. LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #5
Men get a rise out of Stormy? Botany Apr 2018 #10
DUDE NAILED A PORNSTAR! DUDE! GRAB 'EM BY THE PUSSY! Still In Wisconsin Apr 2018 #11
These polls are maddening.. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #12
I'm so disgusted how high his approval still is. OliverQ Apr 2018 #16
Let me get this straight. You ask men about Stormy Daniels and their polls go up? Midnight Writer Apr 2018 #17
Yeah, no kidding. calimary Apr 2018 #18
Very tough being a straight single older woman these days. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2018 #19
"Why do I even want a relationship with a man when their world view harms me.." - I wouldn't either progree Apr 2018 #21
This Is Still A Net Loss ProfessorGAC Apr 2018 #20

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
2. What the hell is wrong with the men that support this total jerk that is the absolute worst
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 08:57 PM
Apr 2018

example of what a male creature should be!

progree

(10,908 posts)
7. Black men voted Clinton over Trump by 67 points, Latino men by 29 points. Meanwhile, white women
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 09:45 PM
Apr 2018

voted for Trump over Hillary by 9 points.

So let's not condemn all men or exonerate all women.

progree

(10,908 posts)
9. So let's not condemn all men or exonerate all women
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 09:51 PM
Apr 2018

Black men voted Clinton over Trump by 67 points, Latino men by 29 points. Meanwhile, white women
voted for Trump over Hillary by 9 points.

Although a white man, I can't speak for the white men who voted for Trump. I voted for Clinton. So don't "wtf men" me.

Old people voted more for Trump than Clinton, but I don't post "wtf, old people" posts. (I'm old, by the way, but I didn't vote the same way as the majority of my age cohort. I can't speak for that majority either).



 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. Lets not lie and say I condemned anyone? You should learn to listen, perhaps?
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 10:15 PM
Apr 2018

This thin skin thing has got to end.

progree

(10,908 posts)
14. Yeah you did. "It's men that brought us Trump, so its a valid question. WTF, Men?"
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 10:18 PM
Apr 2018

So let's not lie, OK? Let's learn to read, OK?

This thin skin thing has got to end.


Yup!
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
22. You seem to believe that an accurate observation is the same as a condemnation.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 03:35 PM
Apr 2018

You seem to believe that an accurate observation in regards to demographics is the same as a condemnation. It's not...

"So let's not be disingenuous simply to support our narrative. Let's learn to read for comprehension beyond our own biases, OK?"

progree

(10,908 posts)
23. I don't like to be "WTF MEN?"'d and blamed for Trump. I did NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 03:49 PM
Apr 2018
"So let's not be disingenuous simply to support our narrative. "
"Let's learn to read for comprehension beyond our own biases, OK?"

Good advice for you.

"It's men that brought us Trump, so its a valid question. WTF, Men?"


Sounds like a condemnation of men to me. I DID NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP. I don't like to be "WTF'd, Men?"

Just like we don't post "WTF black people?" for not turning out in the same numbers that they did in 2008 and 2012.

Just like we don't post "WTF white women?" for voting for Trump by a 9 point margin.

Just like we don't post "WTF married people?" for voting for Trump by a 8 point margin.

(Unmarried people voted for Clinton by an 18 point margin).

Broadbrushing demographics with "WTF (demographic)?" is not helpful and does not unite, but rather divides, and has no place in a progressive forum. It does less than nothing to help us towards reaching our shared goal of electing Democrats.

LiberalFighter

(50,931 posts)
5. All the more reason more women need to be elected to office.
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 09:33 PM
Apr 2018

Listening to a broadcast on NPR this morning about how women do better for businesses. With that in mind the same should be applied to Congress.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
11. DUDE NAILED A PORNSTAR! DUDE! GRAB 'EM BY THE PUSSY!
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 10:14 PM
Apr 2018

TRUMP IS FUCCKIN AWWWESOME! #MAGA!!!!

Oh, just in case.


PS: in my opinion, the antidote to this is to remind jerks that he whimpered and cried like a baby when she swatted him with a magazine.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
16. I'm so disgusted how high his approval still is.
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 10:43 PM
Apr 2018

It really makes this all seem hopeless when so much of the country is dumber than a box of rocks.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
19. Very tough being a straight single older woman these days.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 10:37 AM
Apr 2018

Why do I even want a relationship with a man when their world view harms me and their motivations are so alien to my own?

progree

(10,908 posts)
21. "Why do I even want a relationship with a man when their world view harms me.." - I wouldn't either
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 01:05 PM
Apr 2018

Nor would I with the majority of white women who voted for Trump. And the elderly voted more for Trump than middle-aged and younger.

As an old white guy, my dating pool (if I was looking which I'm not) is cut down by more than half, since I simply would never, ever date a Trumpist woman.

And as far as talking to other white guys my age, sigh, when maybe 3/4 of them voted for Trump... more times than not I know somewhere down the road he's going to tell me he's a "libertarian" and then start ranting about some "Obamacare" something or other.

ProfessorGAC

(65,044 posts)
20. This Is Still A Net Loss
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 10:41 AM
Apr 2018

Since the two genders polled are roughly 50:50, a 6 point drop in one and 3 point rise in the other is a net loss.

That's a good thing, although i'm pissed at anybody who now likes "it" more than they used to.

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