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vkkv

(3,384 posts)
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 06:05 PM Apr 2018

Suspected YouTube HQ shooter dead, four others wounded

Source: cnn

At least four people were wounded and the suspected shooter, a woman, was found dead on the campus of the YouTube headquarters, San Bruno Police Chief Ed Barberini told reporters Wednesday. The chief said the deceased woman had an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.
[Previous story, published at 5:33 p.m. ET]
Ambulances transported four or five patients to hospitals after a shooting was reported at YouTube headquarters in San Bruno, California, officials said.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/03/us/youtube-hq-shooting/index.html




Perhaps the NRA has inspired this attack..?
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Suspected YouTube HQ shooter dead, four others wounded (Original Post) vkkv Apr 2018 OP
Too early to tell. bearsfootball516 Apr 2018 #1
RW media already claiming she's very liberal IronLionZion Apr 2018 #2
of course. concreteblue Apr 2018 #4
Yes, she is a very liberal gun owner. /Sarcasm. n/t Julian Englis Apr 2018 #6
They will delete her socials before her name is announced. joshcryer Apr 2018 #9
Who is this mysterious "they"? I'm used to seeing theories like that on other sites, not DU. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #11
The police report the sites and the sites take them down. joshcryer Apr 2018 #12
OK, thank you for replying. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #13
Looks like she was a mentally disturbed YouTuber, and yeah, all her sites are scrubbed. joshcryer Apr 2018 #28
This event changes the language of shootings... jmbar2 Apr 2018 #3
No, it doesn't. Igel Apr 2018 #8
Um...Hey, America, have we had ENOUGH of guns YET???? calimary Apr 2018 #5
Soros paid her to stage a false flag. Sarcasm n/t rainin Apr 2018 #7
Has there been any video of the shooting lapfog_1 Apr 2018 #10
Looks like it may be a boyfriend/girlfriend husband/wife issue. 7962 Apr 2018 #14
I heard that on news, too...but reporter said he inferred it from what he heard, how it seemed. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #15
Now it looks like she didn't know anyone and was after YouTube itself More_Cowbell Apr 2018 #17
Yep. Another example of "early speculation" being way off, apparently. nt 7962 Apr 2018 #18
Gosh. LanternWaste Apr 2018 #21
Well, that IS what you enjoy doing or being. 7962 Apr 2018 #22
More Cowbell!!! LOL. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #20
Local news is reporting that her father told police she might be headed to YouTube More_Cowbell Apr 2018 #16
Does not seem NRA related at all oberliner Apr 2018 #19
When I first heard someone was shooting up the Youtube headquarters... Dr. Strange Apr 2018 #23
So who plans to actually eat crow here? appal_jack Apr 2018 #24
Certainly not. Do you know what a question mark "?" is? vkkv Apr 2018 #25
Does punctuation always excuse erroneous bias? appal_jack Apr 2018 #26
Very strange.. My guess is thatyou do not believe that the NRA was using foreign (Russian) $ to vkkv Apr 2018 #27
No, you are wrong from jumping to conclusions again. appal_jack Apr 2018 #31
Did She Use A Gun To Shoot & Kill? SoCalMusicLover Apr 2018 #29
What other groups should we apply the same standard to? appal_jack Apr 2018 #34
She was exercising her second amendment rights. hunter Apr 2018 #30
Can you quote the part about being free to kill innocent people? appal_jack Apr 2018 #32
If guns can't solve a simple YouTube problem, what are they good for? hunter Apr 2018 #33
Did The Constitution Mention Semi-Automatic Weapons? SoCalMusicLover Apr 2018 #35
The same place that allows the 1st to cover TV, radio, internet... appal_jack Apr 2018 #36

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
1. Too early to tell.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 06:07 PM
Apr 2018

I'm sure over the next 24 hours, people will find her Facebook and stuff, and see what sort of stuff she liked and posted.

concreteblue

(626 posts)
4. of course.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 06:19 PM
Apr 2018

Just another Liberal gun owning Deep State Operative angry about YouTube "censoring" CONservative channels going on a "mission" to set things right....
</sarc>

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
9. They will delete her socials before her name is announced.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 06:39 PM
Apr 2018

We only find the social media of people because we pick it up over the police scanner or whatever, but so far they have been tight lipped on her identity.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
12. The police report the sites and the sites take them down.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 07:43 PM
Apr 2018

This is not a conspiracy, it has happened in the past few high profile cases. Devin Patrick Kelley comes to mind, where only a few snippets of his FB page were able to be recovered. In Chris Harper-Mercer's case everything was expunged, but his crazy gun loving mother's posts were still up for people to scour (she later deleted her FB page of course).

It takes years for the FOIA requests to go through, see Adam Lanza's case, and we'll probably get something eventually.

But I think in the short term period during the investigation phase, it would be better for the discussion if we could look over the posts.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
28. Looks like she was a mentally disturbed YouTuber, and yeah, all her sites are scrubbed.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 05:08 PM
Apr 2018

As I suspected. You can look up her website on Google and see the cache of it: nasimesabz.com

Luckily some people did archive her more bizarre videos (probably came across them before and just archived them). But she apparently had an extensive posting history. Which is a damn shame, we're talking about hundreds of videos gone. There is a lot of data there to be learned about.

But her instagram, YouTube, facebook, all scrubbed, just as I said.

Now you gotta wait 6 months to send out an FOIA and then the companies will probably have deleted all the videos since we now know this was some kind of angry crazy person mad about their videos being taken down. This event will just vanish from history even though it could be very useful for psychologists to study her videos and her mannerisms and such.

jmbar2

(4,888 posts)
3. This event changes the language of shootings...
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 06:18 PM
Apr 2018

I heard one news reporter saying "the gunman" is apparently a woman.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
8. No, it doesn't.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 06:31 PM
Apr 2018

The idjits that go on a rampage saying, "I want to kill as many people as I can, even if I don't know them" are still usually white males. Usually white, that is. Still males, almost to a man.

Now, people that go and try to kill ex-lovers, they're more of a mixed bag. The NPR news was saying it was a killer, so many estimated to be shot, and saying maybe it was some disgruntled Youtube gun-supporter--but we can't know for sure. But what, private companies can't decide on what content they'll allow on their own private sites? (Notice the caveat, and then they continued on as though it was almost certainly a gun aficionado.) As soon as they said it was a small number in one place, with "one dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound" it was almost certainly not just a man on a rampage. And they cut to other news.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
10. Has there been any video of the shooting
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 07:04 PM
Apr 2018

posted to youtube?

Too soon? My bad.

I often resort to gallows humor to alleviate stress over sad news.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
14. Looks like it may be a boyfriend/girlfriend husband/wife issue.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 08:20 PM
Apr 2018

I heard more than one report about the male victim being the shooters boyfriend.

I imagine we'll know the gist of it by the next 24 hrs

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. I heard that on news, too...but reporter said he inferred it from what he heard, how it seemed.
Tue Apr 3, 2018, 09:23 PM
Apr 2018

So not a mass shooting like so many others. Still a multiple shooting. WTH? Why don't people just kill the people they're mad at, instead of killing others, too? I'm not suggesting it's okay to kill anyone, but I don't understand this "kill everyone standing over there" thing, when they don't know the people or have anything against them.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
17. Now it looks like she didn't know anyone and was after YouTube itself
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:09 AM
Apr 2018

But I'm sure there are still details that will come out.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Gosh.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 12:56 PM
Apr 2018

Gosh. the lazy (or biased) mind might even be persuaded that benign and inconsequential speculation is villainous and degenerate.

But then again, I'm merely speculating... apparently.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. More Cowbell!!! LOL.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 10:16 AM
Apr 2018

One of my favorite skits on SNL. I don't know WHY it's funny. It just is.

Also love "The Continental" skits that Walken did.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
16. Local news is reporting that her father told police she might be headed to YouTube
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:08 AM
Apr 2018

Her father reported her missing yesterday. Today at 2 a.m., police called him to tell him they'd found her sleeping in her car up here (northern California). He told them that she might go to YouTube. It's going to be bad if that turns out to be true, and they could have stopped her.

Dr. Strange

(25,921 posts)
23. When I first heard someone was shooting up the Youtube headquarters...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:18 PM
Apr 2018

I considered joking that someone was upset at having their videos demonetized. But for the obvious sensitivity reasons, I didn't.

But holy crap--that's what it actually was! Yeesh!

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
24. So who plans to actually eat crow here?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:01 PM
Apr 2018

The attacker was a Persian, vegan, female, Cali-resident bodybuilder:

Police have revealed few details about her but US media said she ran a number of channels and a website, posting videos on a variety of subjects including those highlighting animal cruelty. The channels have now been deleted.

Aghdam has been variously described as a vegan bodybuilder, artist and rapper.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43638221

All the bandwagon-riders oh-so-certain that this was a white male red state NRA member have some 'splainin to do.

-app
 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
25. Certainly not. Do you know what a question mark "?" is?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:10 PM
Apr 2018


"" Perhaps the NRA has inspired this attack..? ""
 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
26. Does punctuation always excuse erroneous bias?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:15 PM
Apr 2018

Regardless, others downthread were not so ostensibly curious before jumping to conclusions. I eagerly await their dinner menus and corvid recipes.

-app

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
27. Very strange.. My guess is thatyou do not believe that the NRA was using foreign (Russian) $ to
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:58 PM
Apr 2018

help Trump, either.

Am I right?

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
31. No, you are wrong from jumping to conclusions again.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:30 PM
Apr 2018

Never been an NRA member. If they just protected the Second Amendment, I might have joined in the past (I have been a member of the ACLU many times, and would send them $$$ again if I had them to spare...) But in recent decades, the NRA morphed into a cheerleader for abusive law enforcement and the War on (some) Drugs, while also being a mouthpiece for Republicans. Some of this is understandable, since Democrats have vacillated between being weak to truly awful on Second Amendment issues since the late 1960's, but it's still no excuse. And I value women's right to reproductive freedom, LGBTQ rights, privacy (another right where Democrats' record is mixed, but consistently better than Repubs), financial regulation (same), etc. all too much to ever willingly support Republicans at this stage.

Yes, I do believe that the NRA accepted and essentially laundered Russian money before and during the 2016 election, and I do believe that is a criminal offense. The fact that I share some measure of support for the Second Amendment with some NRA members is not enough for me to excuse or ignore this fact.

So, now you know.

-app

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
29. Did She Use A Gun To Shoot & Kill?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 06:32 PM
Apr 2018

Then the NRA & ALL It's Members are responsible for these deaths.

It's the damn gun culture, and the NRA is in business to keep that alive. The belief that you can resolve any problem with a firearm.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
34. What other groups should we apply the same standard to?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:47 PM
Apr 2018

Does one Jihadi (or a thousand) indict all of Islam?

Do a few million American Fundies indict all of Christianity?

Is the "damn corruption culture" of Democrats like former Presidential candidate John Edwards or former Detroit Mayor Kwame Malik Kilpatrick enough to damn all the Democratic Party? They each used their Democratic leader status for rather nefarious ends. Shall we hold all Democrats responsible?

No, I didn't think so. Just as Democrats are more good than bad, so are peaceable gun owners, whether they support the NRA or not. Quit painting with such broad brushes.

-app

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
32. Can you quote the part about being free to kill innocent people?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:40 PM
Apr 2018

My copy of the Constitution must have omitted that by accident.



-app

hunter

(38,316 posts)
33. If guns can't solve a simple YouTube problem, what are they good for?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:45 PM
Apr 2018

I think the first sign that someone might be a little "off" is they get themselves a gun.


 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
35. Did The Constitution Mention Semi-Automatic Weapons?
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 05:18 PM
Apr 2018

Did our forefathers think it's a good idea to allow people to have a gun that makes it possible for a single person to kill 60 people in under 10 minutes? Where is that in the Constitution?

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
36. The same place that allows the 1st to cover TV, radio, internet...
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 08:48 PM
Apr 2018

Did our forefathers think it's a good idea to allow people to have a media platform such that one speaker could reach tens of millions or even hundreds of millions of ears at once? The answer is moot, as the 1st Amendment protects a principle rather than the specific technologies of quills, printing presses, or soapboxes in the town square. The Second Amendment is phrased similarly, to protect the principle of citizens owning arms suitable for militia use.

But you are wrong on another level. While AR-15's might not be familiar to Washington, Madison, or Jefferson, these men were perfectly comfortable with citizens owning warships, capable of fusillades of cannon shots. Compared to that, an AR-15 or any other sub-fifty caliber, semi-automatic rifle is child's play.

Now take a quick gander at Article I, section 8 of the Constitution where the powers of Congress are delineated and we see:

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water….

Ok, so what’s a Letter of Marque or Reprisal? As Wikipedia informs us:

In the days of fighting sail, a letter of marque and reprisal was a government license authorizing a person (known as a privateer) to attack and capture enemy vessels and bring them before admiralty courts for condemnation and sale.

So, in the very body of the Constitution itself we see that the Founders recognized the private ownership of weapons of empire. We’re talking about friggin’ battleships here people, not just muskets and cannons.


Source: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/04/daniel-zimmerman/kind-weapons-founders-envisioned-contest-entry/

-app
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