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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:38 PM Apr 2018

EXCLUSIVE Wearing Black? Feds Say You May Be an Anarchist, Newly Released Documents Show

Source: The Daily Beast




The Department of Homeland Security told law enforcement how to ID anti-racist protesters—by looking for people who were scouting marching routes.

KELLY WEILL
04.04.18 5:09 AM ET

Counterprotesters at white supremacist rallies risk being characterized as “anarchist extremists,” even if they have nothing to do with the movement, Department of Homeland Security documents show.

A September 2016 DHS report describes law enforcement action during clashes between white supremacists and antifascists (commonly known as “antifa”). The report, obtained by the government transparency nonprofit Property of the People and shared with The Daily Beast, reveals how the Obama DHS profiled leftist protesters. Just months after the report’s release, the Trump Justice Department would use similar, overbroad profiles to prosecute hundreds of people who protested at President Donald Trump’s inauguration ceremony.

The DHS report highlights “two violent clashes in 2016 in Sacramento and Anaheim between anarchist extremists and lawfully protesting white supremacists at legally permitted rallies.”

The report uses those cases to describe how law enforcement might target future “anarchist extremists” who protest at white supremacist rallies. But the agency’s description of “anarchist extremists” is dubious and suggests the DHS might be conflating multiple distinct social movements.

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/wearing-black-feds-say-you-may-be-an-anarchist-newly-released-documents-show?ref=home

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EXCLUSIVE Wearing Black? Feds Say You May Be an Anarchist, Newly Released Documents Show (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2018 OP
Both Obama and Trump DHS did this apnu Apr 2018 #1
Guess im In big trouble UpInArms Apr 2018 #2
Same here and I have never even attended any events except cstanleytech Apr 2018 #4
We also have a theme song: ret5hd Apr 2018 #3
But I thought Black was Slimming Stallion Apr 2018 #5
Trust me, you don't look a bit over 239 pounds. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2018 #6
Yep greymattermom Apr 2018 #8
I really doubt Father Wiecek at my cathedral is Antifa The Mouth Apr 2018 #7
Like these people? muntrv Apr 2018 #9
It would be a great idea to go tell those Raiders people what one thinks of them! Judi Lynn Apr 2018 #19
Ha. That's like the Mpls uptown service industry dude uniform. Noodleboy13 Apr 2018 #10
Well 90% of the women in NYC are in trouble! Danmel Apr 2018 #11
I'm from Chicago MountCleaners Apr 2018 #13
Yes my son and daughter-in-law live in Manhattan FakeNoose Apr 2018 #20
Understated elegance 😊 Danmel Apr 2018 #21
The FBI will be monitoring a lot of aging goths DBoon Apr 2018 #12
SO! those guys with guns... moonseller66 Apr 2018 #14
Damn, as though I weren't suspicious enough for not having a Facebook account! Ron Obvious Apr 2018 #15
Blacks my new look. marble falls Apr 2018 #16
Darn those Amish Anarchists to Heck! uriel1972 Apr 2018 #17
Just keep an eye on cemeteries. Sometimes anarchists will have gather in them, wearing black. Judi Lynn Apr 2018 #18

apnu

(8,758 posts)
1. Both Obama and Trump DHS did this
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:53 PM
Apr 2018

And when all that craziness with the neo-nazis and antifa was happening, a lot of people didn't understand who and what the antifa are, or the Black Block and a number of other groups that wear all black. It was confusing as hell, so I'm not surprised DHS failed to sort it out. Part of the reasons wearing uniform solid black like that with different groups is to confuse and evade capture. From a law enforcement perspective, the only logical solution is to treat all people dressed in black as one solid, easy to find, thing.

Don't think the Antifa and other groups aren't aware of this, their choices of clothing are deliberate. Confusion is one of their weapons.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
8. Yep
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:16 PM
Apr 2018

and something black with jeans has been my regular outfit for...about 60 years. My favorite is a black velvet jacket with jeans.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
7. I really doubt Father Wiecek at my cathedral is Antifa
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:09 PM
Apr 2018

and 45 years later I'm *STILL* too afraid of him to ask.

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
19. It would be a great idea to go tell those Raiders people what one thinks of them!
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 11:05 PM
Apr 2018

We don't have a perpetual fuse, after all.

They have to keep the unruly ones in the stands, because they would be way too rude on the field.

Noodleboy13

(422 posts)
10. Ha. That's like the Mpls uptown service industry dude uniform.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:45 PM
Apr 2018

Myself included.
I was writing notes to myself earlier this month about the similarities between rural and urban winter "uniforms" for men in their 20-30s who aren't office workers.
Urban:
Dark work boots. Jeans or dark trousers. Folding pocket knife. Dark hoodie. Dark jacket (often leather) over the hoodie.

Rural:
Leather or khaki work boots. Jeans or Carharts. Lighter colored hoodie. Carhart or jean jacket over the hoodie.

Oh yeah. A vast majority of the urban dudes sport full beards.

Apparently I live in the midst of anarchist lumberjacks. who knew.

peace,
Noodleboy

Danmel

(4,916 posts)
11. Well 90% of the women in NYC are in trouble!
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 05:02 PM
Apr 2018

Me included. It's OK. We are already east coast elitists. And I'm Jewish to boot.😎

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
13. I'm from Chicago
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 05:29 PM
Apr 2018

Everyone who lives in a big city wears a lot of black. All of that soot and car exhaust and crap that's in the air doesn't show up as much on black. Black clothes just hold up longer.

But when I lived in Nebraska, it got back to me that people there thought I was depressed or morbid because I wore black all of the time. Yeesh.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
20. Yes my son and daughter-in-law live in Manhattan
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 11:16 PM
Apr 2018

Black is all they wear - all the time. Also most of their friends (early/mid-40's) are the same.
They aren't making a political statement that I can see, but it does seem to be a cultural statement of some kind.

DBoon

(22,370 posts)
12. The FBI will be monitoring a lot of aging goths
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 05:12 PM
Apr 2018

I suspect agents will be out in force at the next Cure concert

moonseller66

(430 posts)
14. SO! those guys with guns...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 06:34 PM
Apr 2018

wearing black uniforms, badges and riot gear are anarchists?
Clears up the big misconception they're on the side of democracy, don't it?

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
15. Damn, as though I weren't suspicious enough for not having a Facebook account!
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 06:38 PM
Apr 2018

Next thing you know a preference for reading and quiet solitude will be red flags.

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
18. Just keep an eye on cemeteries. Sometimes anarchists will have gather in them, wearing black.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 11:02 PM
Apr 2018

God only knows what they are plotting.

Might be a good idea to call the authorities next time you see one of these secret meetings.

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