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highplainsdem

(48,978 posts)
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 11:12 AM Apr 2018

Michelle Obama: My husband was 'the good parent' compared to Trump

Source: The Hill

Former first lady Michelle Obama likened her husband's presidency to having "the good parent" at home at a women's leadership conference on Thursday.

At the Simmons Leadership Conference in Boston, Obama appeared to take shots at President Trump's administration in remarks first reported by local TV station WBZ.

The Obama administration “was like having the ‘good parent’ at home," the former first lady said. "The responsible parent, the one who told you to eat your carrots and go to bed on time."

“And now we have the other parent,” Obama added. “We thought it’d feel fun — maybe it feels fun for now because we can eat candy all day and stay up late and not follow the rules.”

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Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/381946-michelle-obama-my-husband-was-the-good-parent-compared-to-trump



Michelle also said that in 2016 Hillary Clinton was the best-qualified candidate: "She wasn’t perfect, but she was way more perfect than many of the alternatives."

She also hit the low voter turnout in 2016, and said that people should be less disheartened that she and Oprah don't want to run for president, and "more disheartened by the fact that Hillary Clinton, probably the most qualified person to ever seek the office of the presidency, lost. She lost."
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Michelle Obama: My husband was 'the good parent' compared to Trump (Original Post) highplainsdem Apr 2018 OP
Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #1
It is useless to refight the last primary season flyingfysh Apr 2018 #4
... BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #5
Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #2
Comparing anything between Obama and dump LakeArenal Apr 2018 #3
Most qualified person to seek office of presidency lost, why, cuz she is a woman. iluvtennis Apr 2018 #6
What is the basis of that statement? I see it a lot, but I don't follow the logic. xor Apr 2018 #9
Perhaps it's not as subtle as you make it, that you don't recall anyone saying a woman can't be pres politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2018 #13
Exactly, well said! iluvtennis Apr 2018 #14
Okay, I see where you're coming from with regards to the media's focus on silly xor Apr 2018 #20
Obama represents everything that they are not. Basically a decent human being. olegramps Apr 2018 #7
I went to Michelle Obama's farmers market yesterday for lunch IronLionZion Apr 2018 #8
Wow.. really! there's a Michelle Obama's Cha Apr 2018 #16
It's excellent, very diverse with lots of ethnic and vegetarian options IronLionZion Apr 2018 #17
Oh from 2009.. I don't know Cha Apr 2018 #18
I miss Michelle....... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2018 #10
kick Dawson Leery Apr 2018 #11
I wanted her to run because she would be a good president. Cold War Spook Apr 2018 #12
You go girl!! riversedge Apr 2018 #15
Your husband, ma'am, is a gentleman and a scholar, as well as a decent human being... Hekate Apr 2018 #19

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
4. It is useless to refight the last primary season
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 11:24 AM
Apr 2018

The Russians would have adapted their troll farms etc to make people doubt Bernie instead.

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
3. Comparing anything between Obama and dump
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 11:22 AM
Apr 2018

Is like comparing solid gold to styrofoam.

One is a precious metal and one clogs landfills.

xor

(1,204 posts)
9. What is the basis of that statement? I see it a lot, but I don't follow the logic.
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 12:45 PM
Apr 2018

I must be missing something. My thoughts are that Trump won because he played the system to get the electoral votes. Now I doubt that it was his brain that came up with it, but someone on his team played that game better. I don't see many liberals and/or progressives being regressive when it comes to the ability of women to lead. Perhaps I am wrong, but aren't Bernie supporters usually more "progressive" than the average Clinton supporter? Usually younger and are not as traditional in their views. I've yet to find a large number of anti-clinton folks on the "left" who hold her gender against her. In most cases the people on the left don't like her because they view her as being too conservative, not progressive enough, or too corporatist. There are also those who buy into the "everyone in the US government is corrupt war criminals and/or murderers" which the foreign and domestic influence campaigns pushed really hard with focus on democratic politicians.

I haven't seen any real members of DU ever suggest Clinton shouldn't have won because she's a women. While I don't go there often, I don't think anyone from certain site made up "radicals" have ever said that Clinton was a bad candidate because she's a women. Grant you, I believe much of their reasoning is flawed, but I've not seen any of them say a women can't be president. They just don't like Hillary Clinton. Most of them probably voted for Jill Stein and would have been happy if she won through of the "miracle" of Russian hacking.

Maybe I am missing something, but I've yet to see much to suggest that people would usually vote democrat/liberal didn't support Hillary because of her gender. Maybe you can clear up what I am not seeing or understanding.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
13. Perhaps it's not as subtle as you make it, that you don't recall anyone saying a woman can't be pres
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 03:44 PM
Apr 2018

If you look at the fact that Hillary Clinton was probably the most qualified candidate to ever run for president and she ran against probably the least qualified person to ever run for the office. So what does the press and the Bots choose to focus on during the campaign? Her pantsuits; her hair, made up stories about her health, and he husband's 20+ years old indiscretions and affairs which she had nothing to do with, while the ignorant nominee who she's running against has had numerous affairs, numerous marriages and infidelities within those marriages, and brags about sexually assaulting women and the fact that he can get away with it.

You had Clinton with a detailed plan on how she planned to govern if elected and in great detail how she planned to fix the problems that the country claims they are concerned about the most, and the ignorant people on the Right can only joke about how many Papers she has on her website while their candidate had no clue about how difficult the job of governing is and he's proving that every day. Like most men, all they have to do is to put on a suit and they have the presumption of being qualified. Hillary had a long distinguished career as a lawyer graduating at the top of her class, as a member of the prosecuting team of Richard Nixon during Watergate.

She had many items published in distinguished legal journals, but she had to take a backseat to her husband time and time again, who was equally intelligent, and who often bragged about how much smarter she was than he, because this country wasn't prepared for woman at the head of government. So she had to make strides where she could while waiting on the nation to come to terms with woman at the helm of leadership and not just in the kitchen. She took on the task of helping to design the first attempt at a universal health care system during her husband's administration and much of the work she oversaw became the prototype for what eventually began the Affordable Care Act under President Obama.

She rarely received the credit she deserved for the great things she tried to do for this country dating back to her early days even prior to becoming first lady of Arkansas with the establishment of the Children's Defense Fund to advocate on behalf of children who didn't have a voice.

It's sad that often time we women can sometimes be our own worse enemy. You fail to see the inherent inequality in the system overall and seem to think that if no one said that women can't be president that there aren't other less subtle things that are said and done that do interfere with that becoming a reality.

iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)
14. Exactly, well said!
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 04:13 PM
Apr 2018

politicaljunkie41910 wrote: "no one said that women can't be president that there aren't other less subtle things that are said and done that do interfere with that becoming a reality."

xor

(1,204 posts)
20. Okay, I see where you're coming from with regards to the media's focus on silly
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 12:48 PM
Apr 2018

things like her clothes and the actions of her husband. That is an area even liberals and those supportive of Hillary need to move away from. Thinking about it, I did get the sense that there was more of that against Hillary than a male candidate would get. Would have to go through a more in-depth comparison between how often Trump's appearance was mocked in comparison. I know Obama was made fun of before because of some of his "dad jeans". I think Romney also had similar comments about his goofy look back during the 2012 election. I do get a sense there was more of that against Hillary, though. But that's based more on a feeling than going back and really analyzing the differences in treatment.

One thing I don't think I fully agree with is that Hillary Clinton was viewed as unqualified. Ignoring the knuckle-dragging Trump reactionary Trump supporting rabble, I got the impression that pretty much everyone thought she was more than qualified to be president based on her own merits. Even it even seems the majority of Republican Never Trumpers have said that Hillary Clinton was qualified (Bill Kristol in particular) From the left, I got the impression that they just thought she was unethical, but not that she was unqualified. I see there as being a difference. I cannot defend their stance that she was too unethical to be president, because that's not what I believe. But I do believe that many of them truly do/did feel that way. Both Clintons have been disliked by people on the right and far-left for a long time. Those people who already had a dislike for them were prime targets for the influence campaigns that were and continues to be run against our country.

I don't think the results would have been much different, if somehow, Bill Clinton was able to run in 2016. The same people would have been throwing the same shade.

That being said, I don't disagree that system as it is still makes it much harder for a woman to get to the place that Hillary got to. The fact she got to where she did took much more effort than it would for a man. Her hard work and dedication helped pave the way for other women to get there. But I don't still don't think she lost because she's a women. Any other democratic politician would have faced the same full on attacks as she did, and because she's been so active there was a lot of material for them to work with and manipulate narrative through lies and twisting of truths.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
7. Obama represents everything that they are not. Basically a decent human being.
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 12:10 PM
Apr 2018

They are the darkness futilely attempting to conquer the light that blinds and infuriated them. They strike out like a wounded serpent full of venom. It is long pass that they be relegated to slime pith they slither from.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
8. I went to Michelle Obama's farmers market yesterday for lunch
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 12:33 PM
Apr 2018

The people have wanted a farmers market in front of the white house and Michelle Obama emailed the city officials and made it happen in a week back when we had good people in the white house. The Trumps better not shut it down. Michelle made a big difference in the nutrition of school lunches and many other programs to connect food banks directly to farmers to get fresh produce.

Maybe Melania will hand out free sweets but make sure Donny 2 scoops gets more than everyone else. And then cut funding for diabetes treatment.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
16. Wow.. really! there's a Michelle Obama's
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 10:26 PM
Apr 2018

Farmer's Market in front of the WH?

What's it like?

Mahlao, ILZ

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
17. It's excellent, very diverse with lots of ethnic and vegetarian options
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 10:57 PM
Apr 2018

First Lady Opens Downtown Farmers Market
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/17/AR2009091704558.html

Michelle Obama Shops At White House Farmers Market
https://pursuitist.com/michelle-obama-shops-at-white-house-farmers-market/

Michelle Obama, bringing fresh produce to a White House near you
https://www.theguardian.com/world/deadlineusa/2009/sep/08/michelle-obama-farmers-market

There are lots more article and pictures available online. Google Michelle Obama Farmers Market.

I just hope the Trumps don't find out about it and end it out of spite.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
18. Oh from 2009.. I don't know
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 11:10 PM
Apr 2018

how I missed that. But, thank you so much for mentioning it!

And, obviously it's still going strong.. I'm so happy about that.

What a cool legacy! She was in a dream last night.. riding a bicycle.. just taking off!

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
10. I miss Michelle.......
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 12:58 PM
Apr 2018

so much. She still takes the high road when she speaks. For she sees what the Trump gang is doing as they ERASE any evidence of them having been in the White House at all.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
19. Your husband, ma'am, is a gentleman and a scholar, as well as a decent human being...
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 11:37 PM
Apr 2018

We miss him (and you) every single day.

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