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muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 12:23 PM Apr 2018

Palestinians killed and scores wounded in Gaza border protests

Last edited Fri Apr 6, 2018, 01:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: The Guardian

At least five Palestinian protesters have been killed and scores more injured by Israeli gunfire on the Gaza border, a week after 18 Palestinians were killed at similar demonstrations. Five of those wounded were said to be in a critical condition.

The renewed violence came despite a call by the UN secretary general, António Guterres, asking Israel to exercise “extreme caution”. His appeal was echoed by the UN human rights spokeswoman Elizabeth Throssell who said unjustified recourse to live fire could amount to wilful killing of civilians – a breach of the fourth Geneva convention.

Figures for the injured were supplied by the Hamas-controlled health ministry in Gaza and a website associated with the group. The most seriously injured had reportedly been shot in the head or upper body.

One of the victims was described as a teenage boy. A Palestinian who had been injured in last week’s protests also died on Friday from his wounds.


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/06/israel-warned-un-protesters-head-for-gaza-demonstrations



(small update at the link, as the death toll increases)
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Palestinians killed and scores wounded in Gaza border protests (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Apr 2018 OP
Ugggh... HopeAgain Apr 2018 #1
If you seek to make peaceful change impossible... TranssexualKaren Apr 2018 #2
hamas should take that to heart. Mosby Apr 2018 #3
Lets get into the way back machine.... TranssexualKaren Apr 2018 #6
the west bank they illegally annexed in 1948? Mosby Apr 2018 #9
"Liberated"? Seriously? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2018 #11
Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #12
Unbelievable. (nt) muriel_volestrangler Apr 2018 #13
here Mosby Apr 2018 #16
With all due respect.... TranssexualKaren Apr 2018 #17
Throwing rocks met with mass slaughter....the article is about the slaughter, not some far off Fred Sanders Apr 2018 #7
I have no idea why the Israelis are using live fire Mosby Apr 2018 #10
I have a idea. Obvious - using assault rifles on children with intent to kill was to terrorize. Fred Sanders Apr 2018 #24
If it's like last time, Igel Apr 2018 #21
They did take it to heart. Igel Apr 2018 #20
better article Mosby Apr 2018 #4
So did the IDF MFM008 Apr 2018 #5
Looks they decided to go the Trump route and just terrorize protestors into stopping. Fred Sanders Apr 2018 #8
No homes have been bulldozed in Gaza oberliner Apr 2018 #15
48,488. MFM008 Apr 2018 #18
Israel withdrew from every square inch of the Gaza strip in 2005 oberliner Apr 2018 #19
There are no settlements in Gaza oberliner Apr 2018 #14
So the bulldozing of homes is just everywhere else since 2005? Good to know. Fred Sanders Apr 2018 #22
Yes, all the Gaza settlements were withdrawn over 10 years ago and every Israeli removed oberliner Apr 2018 #23

Mosby

(16,311 posts)
3. hamas should take that to heart.
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 12:56 PM
Apr 2018

They should give up their weapons to the PA and begin peaceful negotiations with Israel.

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
6. Lets get into the way back machine....
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 02:13 PM
Apr 2018

In 1988 the king of Jordan renounced his claim to the West Bank. He knew that in 10 or 15 years Israel would be confronted with two impossible choices...1. Extend democracy to this emerging Arab majority which could result in Israel being voted out of existence or 2. Setting up a neo apartheid system that would eventually go the way of South Africa. Israel under Netanyahu has gone with option 2.

Mosby

(16,311 posts)
9. the west bank they illegally annexed in 1948?
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 03:12 PM
Apr 2018

That was liberated by the Israelis in 1967?

So according to you the Hashemites don't support a Palestinian state next to Israel.

Is that your position?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
11. "Liberated"? Seriously?
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 03:16 PM
Apr 2018

Ask any Palestinian in the West Bank if they felt "liberated". This would be the way the USA and Britain "liberated" North America, would it?

Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #11)

Mosby

(16,311 posts)
16. here
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 03:49 PM
Apr 2018

...
Jordan's annexation was widely regarded as illegal and void by the Arab League and others. Elihu Lauterpacht described it as a move that "entirely lacked legal justification."[21]The annexation formed part of Jordan’s "Greater Syria Plan" expansionist policy,[22] and in response, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and Syria joined Egypt in demanding Jordan’s expulsion from the Arab League...

On 27 July 1953, King Hussein of Jordan announced that East Jerusalem was "the alternative capital of the Hashemite Kingdom" and would form an "integral and inseparable part" of Jordan.[28] In an address to parliament in Jerusalem in 1960, Hussein called the city the "second capital of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan".[29]

...

By the end of the Six-Day War, the formerly Jordanian-controlled West Bank with its one million Palestinian population had come under Israeli military occupation. About 300,000 Palestinian refugees fled to Jordan. After 1967, all religious groups were granted administration over their own holy sites, while administration of the Temple Mount – sacred to Jews, Christians, and Muslims – remained in the hands of the Jerusalem Islamic Waqf.

...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanian_annexation_of_the_West_Bank

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From 1948 to 1967 Jews were denied access to our most holy sites, because the Hashemites refused entry to Jews and Christians, so the liberation of the west bank not only helped Palestinian national aspirations, it gave Jews and Christians access to their holy sites.

Some of the results of the Jordanian occupation couldn't be rectified, like all the the Jewish Synagogues and cemeteries that were destroyed.

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
17. With all due respect....
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 04:13 PM
Apr 2018

I feel it’s important for me to begin by expressing my respect for your obvious passion on the subject.
Is any of this relevant to the central fact that a majority of human beings living within the sphere of IDF control do not support the existence of Israel?
I believe in a democracy, I believe a nation which doesn’t command the support of a majority of its citizens doesn’t have a right to exist.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
7. Throwing rocks met with mass slaughter....the article is about the slaughter, not some far off
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 02:24 PM
Apr 2018

negotiations.

The criminal acts of the IDF continue to mount....but I am sure their will be an "investigation".... so no problem so many humans killed and wounded.

Mosby

(16,311 posts)
10. I have no idea why the Israelis are using live fire
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 03:16 PM
Apr 2018

But Hamas has been violating international law for decades, and every attempt to bring them into the fold has failed because they refuse to follow the signed agreements between the Palestinians and Israelis and the United Nations binding resolutions of the security council (242, 338).

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
24. I have a idea. Obvious - using assault rifles on children with intent to kill was to terrorize.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 08:47 AM
Apr 2018

The death toll over the weeks is now in the dozens....any army killers with a bandage needed?

This is why so many have turned against Israel's government policies...mass murder because of a philosophy of mass retaliation that has never worked...but never ends.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
21. If it's like last time,
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 07:30 PM
Apr 2018

they were using slings.

These aren't kids throwing pebbles. Stoning was a form of execution; slings were used as a weapon of war, to relatively good effect.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
5. So did the IDF
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 01:58 PM
Apr 2018

Run out of rubber bullets?
Israel will never sleep in peace doing this...
And seizing villages and building
more and more
Settlements.


Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Looks they decided to go the Trump route and just terrorize protestors into stopping.
Fri Apr 6, 2018, 02:25 PM
Apr 2018

How long until the families are killed, not just their homes bulldozed?

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