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Tab

(11,093 posts)
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:04 PM Aug 2012

Sheriff candidate says he wouldn't reject deadly force to stop abortions

Source: WMUR-TV

A Republican candidate for Hillsborough County Sheriff said Wednesday that he believes elective abortions are unlawful and he wouldn't reject the use of deadly force to stop them.
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"I would respond specifically by saying that if someone is under threat, a full-grown human being, if they're under threat, what should the sheriff do? Everything in their power to prevent them from being harmed," he said.

When pressed about what he would do if he learned that a doctor was about to perform an elective abortion, Szabo replied he would do what it took to prevent that from happening.

"Absolutely," he said. "Well, I would hope that it wouldn't come to that, as with any situation where someone is in danger, but again, specifically talking about elective abortions and late-term abortions, that is an act that needs to be stopped."

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/politics/Sheriff-candidate-says-he-wouldn-t-reject-deadly-force-to-stop-abortions/-/9857748/16225528/-/9c091s/-/index.html



So... he would shoot the doctor (if necessary) to prevent an abortion? /* headspin */

Clearly this person should not be sheriff.

He goes on to explain that abortion, while legal, is not "lawful", the same way slavery was "legal" but not "lawful"

on edit: This is in New Hamsphire
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Sheriff candidate says he wouldn't reject deadly force to stop abortions (Original Post) Tab Aug 2012 OP
Now this makes a lot of sense. NV Whino Aug 2012 #1
Exactly like War for Peace. nt valerief Aug 2012 #5
I think its more like war ON peace. southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #7
You can't make this shit up and in the 21st century, too. marble falls Aug 2012 #2
I guess to him murder isn't legal but is lawful, too. These people are insane and dangerous. nt valerief Aug 2012 #3
And the wackos get voted into office. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #26
Yet another Republican candidate for "The Most Batshit Crazy Award". Arkansas Granny Aug 2012 #4
Here's the other one today, Lubbock Texas (pic, links to video & other threads) Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #11
A pic of two dicks rubbing together. Isn't that a bit risque for DU? Monk06 Aug 2012 #34
When can I have my country back? enlightenment Aug 2012 #6
Christ, these people are insane. Actual Murder to stop a "religiously determined murder" - which in smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #8
I guess in their "batshit" crazy heads, it would be similar to an '"honor killing" , yes, it's crunch60 Aug 2012 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Aug 2012 #9
It's Manchester, New Hampshire! bupkus Aug 2012 #13
Might want to read the whole story RantinRavin Aug 2012 #14
No need to shout at me for that, jeez darkangel218 Aug 2012 #19
You might have picked the wrong state for this particular sheriff candidate, but I bet there RKP5637 Aug 2012 #28
It's New Hampshire. secondvariety Aug 2012 #18
I got it. darkangel218 Aug 2012 #20
Yeah, secondvariety Aug 2012 #49
any poor person can tell you how much they DO NOT give a shit about any life once lunasun Aug 2012 #10
They get further and further Out There yet still remain competitive Faygo Kid Aug 2012 #12
I guess it's easy when you own the media. nt valerief Aug 2012 #16
OMG, did you read the last sentence? bupkus Aug 2012 #15
Help me out here to get the difference on lawful vs. legal - any Esq responses appreciated dballance Aug 2012 #17
This man is a domestic terrorist. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #22
+1 n/t area51 Aug 2012 #35
Top Ten Conservative Idiot John Frum Aug 2012 #23
I bet that voice in his head is just white noise. part man all 86 Aug 2012 #24
So what -- will he kill a pregnant woman to prevent her from getting an abortion? 1monster Aug 2012 #25
What's wrong? FatIrishBastard Aug 2012 #27
No, I think he would kill the doctor Tab Aug 2012 #29
What's wrong atreides1 Aug 2012 #30
I can imagine exactly that..."I'd curb stomp a pregnant sinner demwing Aug 2012 #31
True to form BarbaRosa Aug 2012 #32
Man, the GOP has gone off the deep end. McCamy Taylor Aug 2012 #33
Dangerous idiot. Solly Mack Aug 2012 #36
He needs to be removed from his post sakabatou Aug 2012 #37
Only a canidate. Mopar151 Aug 2012 #41
Another trigger-happy pro-lifer. Life is precious, life is cheap. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2012 #38
This idiot doesn't even know what the sheriffs department's role is. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #39
Clearly, this is what you will get with the GOP in control of House, Senate, Court and Presidency. nanabugg Aug 2012 #40
Further proof of the "right to life" far-right position: Your right to life ends at birth. truthisfreedom Aug 2012 #42
What part of freedom doesn't the NH guy NOT... DavidL Aug 2012 #43
UPDATE!!!!!! Sheriff Hopeful Backs Off Deadly Force Abortion Stance DavidL Aug 2012 #44
Apparently, these dumbasses talk without thinking sakabatou Aug 2012 #46
These dumbasses are incapable of thinking. hamsterjill Aug 2012 #47
Lawful means the same thing as legal and slavery was lawful. He is wrong. yellowcanine Aug 2012 #45
Myopic religiosi nuttism is not necessaril restricted to the southern and midwest states Tab Aug 2012 #48

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
6. When can I have my country back?
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:10 PM
Aug 2012

Or - would somebody please wake me up from this nightmare, because dreaming that I'm living in a dystopian version of the "citie on the hill" is really not amusing in the least.

These people are coming out of the woodwork like cockroaches after the lights are off - only these are the two-legged variety that doesn't fear light at all.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. Christ, these people are insane. Actual Murder to stop a "religiously determined murder" - which in
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:12 PM
Aug 2012

itself is f***ing ridiculous - is absolutely the depth of stupidity.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
21. I guess in their "batshit" crazy heads, it would be similar to an '"honor killing" , yes, it's
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:48 PM
Aug 2012

the American Taliban.

Response to Tab (Original post)

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
28. You might have picked the wrong state for this particular sheriff candidate, but I bet there
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 09:58 PM
Aug 2012

are some wacky sheriffs in other states that would possibly be thinking but not saying this ...

secondvariety

(1,245 posts)
18. It's New Hampshire.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:38 PM
Aug 2012

This phony is crazy even by Florida standards. Seriously, is this the best they can dredge up?

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
10. any poor person can tell you how much they DO NOT give a shit about any life once
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:17 PM
Aug 2012

you are born - most fetus lovers are big time for death penalty too
Doing this to a doctor they would think gets them extra heaven points no doubt
no dif from Taliban types

 

bupkus

(1,981 posts)
15. OMG, did you read the last sentence?
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:33 PM
Aug 2012
Szabo said he doesn't have any background in law enforcement, but he said his business background gives him the experience to run for the position of sheriff.


Sure, just like being a vulture capitalist gives you the experience to run for the position of POTUS.
 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
17. Help me out here to get the difference on lawful vs. legal - any Esq responses appreciated
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:34 PM
Aug 2012

Some examples if I have it correct that parallel the sheriff's thinking:

1. Sex is lawful in the US but some forms of sex - like those performed by homosexuals used to be illegal. But those forms performed by heterosexuals were legal.

2. Marriage is lawful in the US but inter-racial marriage used to be illegal while same race marriage was legal.

3. Does it extend as far as "selling drugs in the US is lawful" but selling the drug meth is illegal?

Am I getting it right?

If so how does one make the case that after Roe v. Wade abortions are lawful but elective ones are illegal in the absence of specific laws prohibiting them? I can get to the understanding late term abortions may be illegal if you live in an area that has passed a law prohibiting them.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
25. So what -- will he kill a pregnant woman to prevent her from getting an abortion?
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 09:51 PM
Aug 2012

Really effective.

What is wrong with so many of the men in this country? Have they collectively all lost their minds? And those religious types want us to submit ourselves and our minds to them?

If Rod Serling had written an episode of THE TWILIGHT ZONE using the material these psychopathic megalomaniacs come up with, his career would have nose dived into oblivion for expecting the viewer to believe such might, in some dim, dark, murky society, be possible.

And yet it is reality.

FatIrishBastard

(51 posts)
27. What's wrong?
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 09:57 PM
Aug 2012

Penis envy....big mouth, no dick, one big old segment of the population are masculine p#$$!e$. Any questions?

Tab

(11,093 posts)
29. No, I think he would kill the doctor
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:00 PM
Aug 2012

(a living, participating, member of society, serving valuable services to many members of the community) in order to save a blastocyst or barely established embryo, much less fetus.

And, IANAL ("I am not a lawyer", for you youngsters), but that seems like a pretty broad interpretation of preventing harm to another human being.

I don't live far from Hillsborough County and wouldn't care to get pulled over by this brainwashed nutcase.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
30. What's wrong
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:00 PM
Aug 2012

Organized religion...and religious fanatics...that's what's wrong!

I'm getting to the point where I would like to see some persecution of certain groups of Christians...and I mean the old fashioned Roman version...but there aren't enough lions left in the world to do the job correctly...besides why torture the lions?

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
31. I can imagine exactly that..."I'd curb stomp a pregnant sinner
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:19 PM
Aug 2012

to save that unborn saint within her filthy womb"

What the fuck is happening in our country? Are we seriously going to see violence in our streets over civil rights? Is it really going to take a civil war to end this bullshit?

I mean we've vented about it, bitched about it, but how many of us ever believed they would draw lines, again? These fucker are TRULY enraged, and desperate to hold whatever power they have left.

You crazy ass fucking white males are going to get us NON crazy ass fucking white men confused with your crazy asses! When the population turns against you, they'll turn against me and my sons as well. FUCK!

The only way to stop this is for white men with a conscience to stand up to the white men who are evil. You shit stains will NOT destroy this country in the name of white male dominance, fuck you, suck you, FUCK YOU.

BarbaRosa

(2,684 posts)
32. True to form
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:51 PM
Aug 2012

once the fetus leaves the womb they have little regard/distain for the person until it reaches military age. After that, distain, unless it is "one of them".

I hope this makes sense, I am a) really PO'd about this attitude and b) a couple of gin and tonics into the evening.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
41. Only a canidate.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:02 AM
Aug 2012

But needs to be "outed". We have an excess of these political abcesses walking around - need to be drained and sterilized!

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,343 posts)
38. Another trigger-happy pro-lifer. Life is precious, life is cheap.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 05:31 AM
Aug 2012

And the winds of irony blow over his head.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
39. This idiot doesn't even know what the sheriffs department's role is.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 07:47 AM
Aug 2012

Primarily they transport prisoners. But heck, the whackadoodle nutjob is on network tv. Lucky me I get to vote against him. Maybe he thinks Democrats need to be shot too.

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
40. Clearly, this is what you will get with the GOP in control of House, Senate, Court and Presidency.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 07:50 AM
Aug 2012

I just don't understan any woman voting for the GOP except for inbred racism.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
42. Further proof of the "right to life" far-right position: Your right to life ends at birth.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 09:24 AM
Aug 2012

"Our guns will protect your zygotes even if we have to kill every last one of you."

This is the republican taliban. Women have no rights whatsoever, and we'll prove it at the point of a gun.

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
43. What part of freedom doesn't the NH guy NOT...
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:05 AM
Aug 2012

understand?

New Hampshire, the "Live Free or Die" motto state?

This guy is dangerous, and probably owns guns.

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
44. UPDATE!!!!!! Sheriff Hopeful Backs Off Deadly Force Abortion Stance
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:17 PM
Aug 2012
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/frank_szabo_abortion_apology.php

New Hampshire sheriff hopeful Frank Szabo on Thursday backed off his threat to resort to arrests and even deadly force to stop doctors from performing abortions if he is elected to office.

The Hillsborough County, N.H., candidate apologized for comments he made to local news outlets on Wednesday when he was pressed about how far he would go for his anti-abortion views.

“What I said was inexcusable, and as sheriff, I would not use lethal force against an abortion doctor,” Szabo said in a written statement to the Bedford Patch. He said he regretted and retracted the comments.


Yeah, RIGHT!!!

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
45. Lawful means the same thing as legal and slavery was lawful. He is wrong.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:27 PM
Aug 2012

Crap, where do these nutjobs come from?

Tab

(11,093 posts)
48. Myopic religiosi nuttism is not necessaril restricted to the southern and midwest states
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 09:20 PM
Aug 2012

Somehow it spreads out.

I can tolerate nutcase individuals. At least we recognize it as nuts. What scares me is when it appears in its natural element and everyone around nods their head and go "yer damned right!".
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