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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:41 PM Apr 2018

Russia Launches Floating Nuclear Power Plant; It's Headed To The Arctic

Source: NPR


April 30, 2018

A massive floating nuclear power plant is now making its way toward its final destination at an Arctic port, after Russia's state nuclear corporation Rosatom launched the controversial craft over the weekend. It's the first nuclear power plant of its kind, Russian officials say.

Called the Akademik Lomonosov, the floating power plant is being towed at a creeping pace out of St. Petersburg, where it was built over the last nine years. It will eventually be brought northward, to Murmansk – where its two nuclear reactors will be loaded with nuclear fuel and started up this fall.

From there, the power plant will be pulled to a mooring berth in the Arctic port of Pevek, in far northeast Russia. There, it will be wired into the infrastructure so it can replace an existing nuclear power installment on land.

Critics of the plan include Greenpeace, which recently warned of a "Chernobyl on ice" if Russia's plans to create a fleet of floating nuclear power stations result in a catastrophe.

Read more: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/30/607088530/russia-launches-floating-nuclear-power-plant-its-headed-to-the-arctic

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Russia Launches Floating Nuclear Power Plant; It's Headed To The Arctic (Original Post) G_j Apr 2018 OP
Yeah. What could go wrong ? CincyDem Apr 2018 #1
Beat me to it. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2018 #2
I already saw this movie. Spoiler alert: Godzilla. byronius Apr 2018 #3
He certainly was. And nobody would listen. The 1st conspiracy theory, I think!! 7962 Apr 2018 #4
Using Nazi Troops MosheFeingold Apr 2018 #6
We already have floating nuclear power plants... subs and aircraft carriers. keithbvadu2 Apr 2018 #5
Totally different angrychair Apr 2018 #7
The Russians have built more naval reactors than the US in the past 60 yr NickB79 Apr 2018 #12
Correct, I'll grant you angrychair May 2018 #18
We already proposed this type of power plant JPK Apr 2018 #8
What does the UN think about this idea? They_Live Apr 2018 #9
There are lots of nuclear reactors at sea hack89 Apr 2018 #10
True. They_Live May 2018 #20
Doesn't mean the UN cares about it hack89 May 2018 #22
That certainly addressed the question... LanternWaste May 2018 #23
Granted that some issues require some thought hack89 May 2018 #24
What could possibly go wrong? BadGimp Apr 2018 #11
One reason they don't care about climate change is the arctic is rife for exploitation. joshcryer May 2018 #13
Yep, Russians actually benefit enormously from a warmer earth ansible May 2018 #14
So will Canada & USA could benefit too if people were willing to adapt & change 'land/water usage. Sunlei May 2018 #21
using artic water to cool the damn thing would imagine harbor free of ice dembotoz May 2018 #15
What could go wrong? There are no violent storms at sea in that part of the world. Nitram May 2018 #16
Seems pretty suspicious to me. That town Pevek shows a pop. of about 4000. MGKrebs May 2018 #17
Russia will have a huge fishing industry with live on site 'labor' & scrape the seas of everything. Sunlei May 2018 #19

byronius

(7,395 posts)
3. I already saw this movie. Spoiler alert: Godzilla.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:55 PM
Apr 2018

Russia! Still the villain after all these years!

George Patton was right after all.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
4. He certainly was. And nobody would listen. The 1st conspiracy theory, I think!!
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 06:01 PM
Apr 2018

"The Russians killed Patton"

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
6. Using Nazi Troops
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 06:54 PM
Apr 2018

Was a bit too much to swallow.

It took effort for me to not shoot and abuse prisoners.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
5. We already have floating nuclear power plants... subs and aircraft carriers.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 06:49 PM
Apr 2018

We already have floating nuclear power plants... subs and aircraft carriers.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
7. Totally different
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 08:18 PM
Apr 2018

We are the only builders of nuclear powered aircraft carriers and it is undeniably the most successful nuclear program in the world.

NNPI is also some of the most closely held, secret, information in the US Navy or any other military branch.

What the Russians are doing with their floating reactors is nothing like the reactors on US carriers or subs and is extremely dangerous and reckless.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
12. The Russians have built more naval reactors than the US in the past 60 yr
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:46 PM
Apr 2018
http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/non-power-nuclear-applications/transport/nuclear-powered-ships.aspx

They've also been running more nuclear icebreakers in the Arctic longer than the US has, and this ship is essentially a larger version of one of those.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
18. Correct, I'll grant you
Tue May 1, 2018, 10:32 AM
May 2018

But I have significant concerns given their historical safety record in this area. Second and third world nations, especially those beholden to organized crime, should not be allowed to have floating nuclear power plants.

Not to mention that such operations seem incredibly hard to secure from attack.

Not to mention that nuclear energy is a dead end technology. It incredibly expensive to maintain and creates waste that is dangerous for in excess tens of thousands of years.

JPK

(653 posts)
8. We already proposed this type of power plant
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:16 PM
Apr 2018

There was a company in the late 70's, Offshore Power Systems. They were going to locate nuclear power plants on the ocean surrounded by concrete barriers. It was a cooperative between Westinghouse and some other company. It almost got off the ground until smarter heads prevailed and the whole thing quietly faded away.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
22. Doesn't mean the UN cares about it
Tue May 1, 2018, 01:15 PM
May 2018

especially considering all the nuclear powers on the Security Council - all five permanent members have nuclear powered ships and submarines.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
24. Granted that some issues require some thought
Tue May 1, 2018, 01:57 PM
May 2018

but it should be somewhat obvious that there are no restrictions on nuclear reactors in international waters given that nuclear powered ships have been a global presence for 70 years with no legal hindrance.

But thanks for dropping by.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
13. One reason they don't care about climate change is the arctic is rife for exploitation.
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:42 AM
May 2018

This is only the beginning.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
14. Yep, Russians actually benefit enormously from a warmer earth
Tue May 1, 2018, 03:46 AM
May 2018

Temperatures there have already warmed so much that russians are complaining their winters are too warm now.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
21. So will Canada & USA could benefit too if people were willing to adapt & change 'land/water usage.
Tue May 1, 2018, 11:37 AM
May 2018

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
17. Seems pretty suspicious to me. That town Pevek shows a pop. of about 4000.
Tue May 1, 2018, 09:03 AM
May 2018

And there is not much else around there. Are they planning for some growth there? Is that their best access to the Arctic?

It's funny, on Google maps that town shows mostly banks when you zoom in.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
19. Russia will have a huge fishing industry with live on site 'labor' & scrape the seas of everything.
Tue May 1, 2018, 11:25 AM
May 2018

They also will capture & dominate sales of live animals like Orcas. (they already capture plenty.)

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